Just a comment I wrote to @offgridlife that I think could be a topic for debate I see the world ‘quality content’ banded around a lot but what does it rly even mean and is it actually helpful to get these sites to grow?
Here was my comment:
“I’ve looked at this before fb has 2 billion active users a day and none of these sites are a drop in the ocean hive has less daily users than when steem began in 2017. They are all missing something maybe it’s the ease of posting like on Fb i post links, one sentence I think perhaps the push for so called ‘quality content’ on these places is probably harming its growth. A lot of ppl who talk about quality content rly just put the same stuff over and over again and it’s nothing that special it’s just long and I feel a lot of people, honestly myself included see a long block of text and upvote it for ‘effort’ without even reading it. The thing is if we want to read something long we will probably read an actual book. On Fb I regularly get 250 + comments on often a sentence of text or a meme or something daft lol it’s mostly about the comments rly and the debate and engagement and that’s where these sites need to pick up imo. No one comes to them rly to read an essay of stuff on the same topic every day. Ppl are just upvoting for effort but there isn’t any banter and engagement, because I imagine most ppl are not reading them even. They probably read one from the same author and now just auto like the effort but is that really encouraging daily engagement ? Personally I think it comes more from the comments than the posts. Due to the toxicity of hive I often find myself putting a lot more on fb than here because there is still that subconscious programming of ‘not posting too much’ ‘not posing links or short things or memes’ but my fb page is super busy I often get back and forwards well into the hundreds that doesn’t happen here because I’m not posting the same content because that content that gets hundreds of comments would be considered ‘low quality’ here.”
Do discuss …
This is an interesting observation and this does cause a lot of conflict. But I believe that a lot of this is also based in people comping from a place of scarcity. Like you said when there is this push for quality and effort, some people feel that their effort and quality is better than others and thus is worth more. Then this makes that person lash out at others that they see are undeserving. We have seen a lot of this with the very prominent bloggers here on blurt that continue to trend, partly because they take this frustration out on the platform and that frustration in posts is voted for by ctime.
Recently I was attacked by one of these trending posters because I shared my news about the goal I had reached on blurt and I had also self voted the post 75%. This person posted on the post and said that he had been working for 10 years on content creation and it adds up to the same amount that I have and it is because I am working with stolen money and circle jerking. This is completely far from the facts and it continued to get worse in another post that I commented on. Expectations and entitlement based around these faux rules of what good content is, is really tormenting some people and causing extra conflict where it is not needed.
There is no such thing as rape of the reward pool this is a mind set that got hammered in in steem and hive and these same people ran away from it there but are bringing that garbage here and turning it around on others. Everyone has their own path of course we should not be happy about copy and past and blatant cheating but some diversity in what people enjoy is allowed and not a threat to the ecosystem. The open market sorts that out a lot on its own, we saw a lot of good and bad leave during the bear market, maybe these things are natural resets.
Lol the circle jerking things make me laugh, I think thsi just refers to voting for your mates and the ppl using the words seem to have the same ppl upvoting their content every day. You know what the say often the things that annoy you the most are the things you don’t want to acknowledge in self. I think the ppl
Talking about circle jerking are some of the biggest offenders in having the same ppl upvote their content every post
Bingo!
It takes a circle jerker to know a circle jerker.
🤣🤣🤣 I mean I’m defo one for sure I admit it I try and find new content but when I just have a few mins of course I’m upvoting ppl I know and who’s content I like. esp from my own account I try and spread the reach further from the group one but of course you will vote for your friends or networks
Anyone that says they doesn’t is lying I’m yet to see anyone who votes for completely new authors every single day … show me someone
Maybe these ppl want to scour blurt and send me a list of ppl to upvote every single day with the best content, I’ll read it for sure
I mean don’t just moan from an armchair do something lol that’s how we got coconut curation cause I said it wasn’t great such a huge amount of money going to the same three ppl. We spread it around way more but if ppl are not happy send some accounts or posts over. Not one of these whingers has taken even 10 mins to put together a post with suggestive users and posts… instead they just spend hours moaning and complaining. If you want to change something maybe put a bit of effort in.
A common phenomenon where envious or resentful people tend to find fault with those who have achieved more than they have. It is important to recognize that success often requires hard work, but not only that, it also requires dedication and sacrifice, all of which these people overlook. By focusing solely on the criticism of others, they ignore the effort and sacrifice that went into achieving success.
It's concerning that the criticism directed towards you is made by another author who compares their work to yours but fails to recognize your diverse roles and responsibilities on Blurt. The moralistic tone of the criticism also raises questions about personal freedom, as there is no code in the blockchain banning self-voting and thus remains a personal decision rather than a law imposed by the blockchain. This raises questions about the legitimacy of such moralistic evaluations.
This is one of the reasons why I relocated to Asia, where success is viewed positively and celebrated, rather than met with envy. This creates a supportive environment that lifts everyone up, rather than tearing them down.
All very true. Thank you for your insights. Maybe I need to try Asia at some point I very much enjoyed a trip to Vietnam. Here in Ghana envy is a big problem also, hard work is not as valued as being "smart" and getting the money by any means. Money in the end is what is worshiped and those with it.
First of all, the quality of a content is totally subjective and depends on a lot of personal criteria (attractiveness, knowledge, affinities on the subject of the content... but also on the author). What will be of quality for you may not be for me and vice versa.
Next, the length is in no way a 100% guarantee of quality, I can very well be impressed and touched by something short, habits and traditions of a country I didn't know, something of which I was unaware of the existence or the utility, the evocation of a retro game which brings back memories of teenagers, a place I visited years ago or never... And to be totally indifferent to a long post on a subject that does not interest me at all. A good example is your post The concept of god which is short (200 words) and which I nevertheless found very interesting about your relationship with AI in art and how you integrated it in your creative process.
Personally I don't believe in global curation, you can't be good or interested in all areas.
On the other hand, I am convinced that if with the upcoming communities on Blurt, curation groups specific to them are created and receive sufficient support, then Blurt curation will make a big step forward
Interesting perspective also. I was recently attacked for having a community that my curation is specifically targeted to. It was almost as if I was being told I am zenophobic which is interesting because I am a white person living in Africa and voting for that community. But I agree with you that broad curation is very difficult and probably only benefits the trending page but not small or growing accounts and user base.
Thanks for this feedback, just like a 100% perfect curation is utopian, there will always be some failures it's normal, curators are human after all, there will always be people to criticize because 100% adherence to a system is also utopian. What happened to you has the merit of being rather funny and shows the not very high level of some people.
To me, if what you post comes from you, ie. it's not plagiarized, it doesn't matter if it's a short post or a novel. I'll vote according to my own criteria for quality.
I also agree with those who say that engagement is one of the most important parts. If what you post gets people to want to engage, it's "quality" content just for that alone.
You don't need to write a novel or post dozens of images. One image with a short description can be of more quality than a long post full of nonsense.
Sometimes I will give someone a higher vote because of their contributions to the platform. So, in that case, I would give them a higher vote than a similar post from someone else. To me it's more about what value you bring to the platform.
I think each person should use their own criteria for determining what they think is quality and how much they want to vote for different types of posts.
Anyway, that's just my two cents.
The question is: Who defines quality? Do the number of words, pictures, followers or the amount of blurt power mean that someone post qualitativ content? I don't think so. The whole Blurt community defines what quality is. The community decides which posts they like and which they don't. And this can be seen by the number and percent power of upvotes and/or comments.
I think the other guys is right it’s probably comments and engagement. If something is super long and gets 2 -4 comments not really deeply on the post … no one read it basically. I think a lot of people and myself included have a habit of upvoting things that are just long and look like the person put on effort… no way are all the upvotes reading them all.
For sites to grow, I don't think we can take "quality content" as a benchmark. Quality is the definition that gives me a headache.
But each of us must know. BLURT prices come from supply and demand.
If the site becomes a comfortable place, the demand for coins will increase.
If the site becomes an uncomfortable place, people will stay away and the price of Blurt will drop.
Probably, the quality is measured by the number of comments on the publication, since the quality in some can be totally different from others, and this is where the tastes of each user come into play. I am not one to read long paragraphs unless the content is really impacting me, for the rest, short content with meaning is my preference
Probably cause I honestly think a lot of ppl don’t read stuff they upvote, is that quality just cause it looks long?
By no means does something long mean quality... just paraphernalia
I totally agree with the perception of @zulma and @ozelot47. I have read books that have lousy content but amazing titles, as well as other books that have poor titles but rich content. Like on Blurt, I've read really insignificant content, but it's supported by "curators" with high voting power, and other really wonderful posts, but it's been invisible to others.
So... Where is the quality? Probably in the perception of who writes and who reads; Whoever writes assumes that his work is great, and whoever reads shows it with his vote and comment. And... What happens to the one who votes without reading? I think he is one of those who has a select group to vote for without looking at whether what he writes is good or not. This is what I have seen on all the platforms where I have been.
I’ll be honest I have done it, I don’t think many of us have time to read these huge 10 paragraph long essays all the time that repeat themselves.
Are we all just guilty of upvoting long posts tho and calling that ‘high quality’ when no one’s even rly reading it
I vote for the person and not really their post, because if I do not like them I will just be like a quiet ghost. I do value the quality by what the message of the post conveys, although I am also guilty of not reading the post anyways.
The question of quality depends upon the person, putting a value on posts will just depend on various positive or negative reasons. It is up to the individuals on how they would create a blog, it can be a spam to some but for some they like the post.
Because Blurt is about freedom but we have to keep in mind, there are still sensible and unwritten rules that we just have to obey.
For one thing we have to keep in mind Blurt is a "pay to play" website. We pay for our thing to get posted here but still we have rules to abide. @ultravioletmag.
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Each and every time 🥓
I couldn't agree more and so writing is what I do. If we listen to ourselves we can create things to share it here too.
Of course there are so many things of what to post about, you can just scratch the soil down below and tell Blurt what it is all about.
This whole thing about Miss Mag's engaging blog post, is just a case of normal people collected together in a house and beginning to get into each others nerves and throats.
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What are the criteria for quality content or who determines them?
I agree that quality content should be rewarded more, but it is the rewarder who determines quality content.
For me, every piece of content I reward is quality, unless someone proves that it is plagiarized!
I think the idea of a "Social network" is Stupid... Social networking was designed for mass surveillance and MK-Ultra antics.
This is a Blockchain... Designed to complete with Banking and Ledger Tech...
The idea that anyone can use this for digital publishing or Providence is amazing to me...
But not as amazing as convincing users to blog for money... Which I feel is a smidge above prostitution.
This chain is fine since they removed the DV and pegged Dollar SCAM. Now what people should be working on is bringing THEIR OWN FRIENDS onto the platform rather than seeking out the users who are already here. ... So far JerryB wins the prize for effective recruiting with his awesome BLURT video from last month.
So if people want this place to work better for them, THEY need to go build THEIR audience and bring that Engagement HERE.
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Meet quality content 'Girl'...
(this is QUALITY content)
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Quality is in the eye of the beholder, and some people will upvote just because you upvoted something of theirs.
I’ve experienced something similar. I haven’t posted my art on Instagram in months, but I know if I posted an image right now I would get about 50 likes without having to write anything with it, not even tags. I might even get an emoji comment or two. Here on Blurt I get about 10-15 upvotes per day, and I almost never get a comment. Between this and with AI art look better and better I’m starting to wonder if there is a point to creating and posting digital art anymore.
Yeah I think it probably makes all digital art look like ai o find that ppl
Seem to have a more of an interest in physical art tho?
Yeah ppl do like back there are apps that follow ppl then delete everyone that doesn’t follow back lol
I've been on Blurt for a long time and I've experienced everything. I think the only reasonable solution for Blurt is anarchists motto:
Do whatever you want
And this is how we should advertise this blockchain
curated by blurtbooster
yeah,
you can curate good content but you can also run a account farm; you can selvote, you can upvu, etc... we have no rules
Ha ha …
I don’t think so.
Quality content ? I think what actually matters is content which can bring traffic from external users. So can't declare what is actually quality. Sometimes few words written on a current global topic can bring millions of traffic to blurt. Other than that I don't see the value of that inside an ecosystem like blurt. What matters is number of users and their active engagement or utilisation of blurt.
Hive was always crazy in this sense they reward ppl who get absolutely 0 engagement off the network and all the people with even a medium following they downvote or chase out it was just insanity it’s why I always assumed that they clearly don’t actually want the platform to grow. Look at anyone downvoting or doint well there then look at their YouTube, Facebook, tik tok, Instagram it’s like 20 followers type catagory then anyone with proper channels of any level or any kind of real life audience or platform they push them off I saw them do it to ppl with that rare nft platform which was defo the best one at the time. They hounded him for sharing the same piece of art he shared back on steemit 3 years prior 🤣🤣🤣 these ppl meanwhile are getting like 100 dollars for a twitter link or a video that gets 2 likes on YouTube. It was absolutely mental I rly can only assume they don’t want it to grow. Blurt imo needs to jump on these ppl as just one of them could probably bring enough ppl in to change the eco system. @Jerrybanfield for example has a good following @offgridlife and lots of others even I have way more than anyone who ever downvoted me.
Protect these ppl ffs as their social grows they being more ppl in one YouTube video does a lot to get the name out there
Adios Blurt … 😂
Why are you letting like two bloggers run yoh off a site? I understand on hive caude the downvote was too high and it was just pathetic but here you’re just letting a couple of peoples words annoy you too much. Brush it off and carry on
I had a blogger on here who we all know I don’t follow who seeped into my personal life even with drama and it rly wasn’t a great time but I took a bit of time away from the site, blocked them and never check anything they do, never see anything and it’s nice and peaceful I highly suggest the same, then after a bit you don’t even care they just become powerless
That's a good point, if you ask me, I also prefer short content, but in these blogging-for-money sites, length matters, even if it's not comfortable, and quality is determined by those who have the power to make their votes add.
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I’ve definitely gotten comments on my videos that I know they didn't read because they talk about the title, but the video doesn’t have as much to do with the title as they think LOL. I think it’s human nature though, if you’re rewarding several posts a day, no way can you read them all or listen to all the videos, but is that really valuable content then? Maybe more valuable is something you actually read, even if it’s only a sentence and makes you think or makes you wanna type a comment. That’s why political art can be so powerful because you look at it a new imprint the message without needing to read a book or an essay.
I understand the point, I've even seen very useful content in an image or an IG short, the kind that makes you at least write: Thank you!
I get comments on my posts sometimes that make me want to reply with, "tell me you didn't read the post without saying you didn't read the post". 😄
yeah hahaha I got one on my apology video because it was nothing to do with the title really, I mean it was but it was a bit of a cryptic title lol.
To be fair I have done it too though especially with comments where someone has replied to something with like 10 paragraphs and I kind of scan read it and replied to be polite, sometimes they will even say did you read what I wrote? lol
god reading those messages back my typos are so bad, using voice to type whilst walking is not the one lol now I have to pay to go back and make them all make sense
I think sometimes we just want to build communities or engage with content or discussion without reading endless amount of text, I am quite bad for writing long things in discussions my bf often condenses my 12 texts to one in a reply ha I do think women are worse generally not to be sexist we pad out more
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Quality content on Blurt 🤬 must be about Covid 🤮… the World Economic Forum 👽 or Sudden Death ☠️
It must be the same long text. Regurgitated each and every day…
Blah blah blah…
editing the terrible voice to type whilst I was walking lol.....You need to calm down a bit LOL. I think it is a bit of an I hate blurt moment, but you’re not meant to like everyone on the platform, the same as there’s tons of areas on YouTube that we don’t want to watch. I also get kind of bored of those Covid vaccine videos and text, even though I’m really against the vaccine and I didn’t have it. There’s only so much to watch and I think Covid isn’t even a thing anymore. Only people I ever hear still talking about it to be honest are the anti-vaccine people. Even though I’m on their side of things, I only want to read one or two things on here. I’m really not interested in still reading endless post about it. But thats just my opinion they can go read them it’s a free world
God voice to type is pretty bad. I’ll go back and edit it a bit later