RE: My reply to @khrom, seen from a wider perspective...SELL! SELL ! SELL!

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My reply to @khrom, seen from a wider perspective...SELL! SELL ! SELL!

in blurtpolitics •  2 years ago  (edited)

well what can i tell you... i understand your strong sense of justice screaming out loud to do something about it. The problem is that we do not live in a perfect world, and there are never ideal conditions.

On hive corruption, corruption and censorship was due to downvoting, on steem we have a dictator, and here we have corruption in the form of blurtbooster. From my perspective, Blurt is a bit like a town. You have to look at it more broadly in any town you will never eliminate corruption and corruption in 100%, you can only make sure that they are at an acceptable level.

This is because there will always be people who are able to act outside the law and get away with it. Ironically, these are usually people in power, such as the sheriff, the mayor, and the judge.

Does this mean, however, that we are to leave the city and not try to develop it, promote it and act locally so that residents can live better? Of course, it would be ideal to put the mayor and his clit behind bars, but that's not always possible. However, sometimes it is enough to simply deprive him of agency so that his influence is minimal and he cannot continue to cause serious damage.

That's how I see what happened when most Blurtaim lost trust in MD and rycharde a mk and ctime put me or fervi on the first position. What can be done is, for example, if, for example, a few more people like you who can think independently, just took care of participating in the life of the platform, e.g. by becoming a witness, then it would be, for example, whom to vote for and we could veto any unfavorable changes in the blockchain.

And this is really a lot because even though the fake stake will not be removed from the blurt booster, any such modification will not be allowed to come into force again.

setting up own RPC node + image server, own frontend and if it was really hot, what a glue chain separation and how with hive and steem when justin appeared and then it's fun in your own backyard. This is how decentralization works...

And so, bit by bit, acting one way or another, people with the heart on the right side will eventually create a better blockchain.

I think the main mistake in your thinking is that you look at this network as a broken item that needs to be fixed otherwise it is useless, and not as I wrote under the post, @word-travel-pro as an ecosystem or a town.

Blockchain is just servers, lines of code, numbers and stuff, but the real soul of this project is people. See these are the same faces that have already met somewhere on Steem and are sticking to this project until now. It is a certain philosophy, a predilection for specific solutions and a certain hope placed in these solutions that hold them together and have brought them here. So if necessary, there will be another "blurt" to which they will move, if it is not possible to fix the situation here and they will be followed by other people who came here thanks to the promotion ;) The promotion is only so that people for whom this vision of solutions is just right what they were looking for, they found their proper environment.

Blurt is not perfect but is better than hive and steem so there is some progress here.



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Great analysis and response. I do appreciate hearing your mind in this comment @khrom. I'm thinking along the same lines as you are.

Question. Can either (or both) you and @drutter fill me in on the blurtbooster situation? I would like to fully understand this.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Blurtbooster is a bot account that has delegations of printed stake from the founder accounts, making it by far the largest curator (user of the reward pool):

https://blurtlatam.intinte.org/blurt/@drutter/i-am-a-top-20-blurt-curator-delegate-your-bp-here

It automatically votes on essentially every new post at exactly the 5 minute mark (maximizing its curation profits), somewhere between 1% and 15% strength, depending on an algorithm. I don't know the parameters of the algorithm and believe they have not been divulged, but it seems longer posts with more links, formatting, and images seem to be favoured. Also, not posting the same content to other chains seems to be favoured. It is Blurt Universal Basic Income (I like to call it BUBI, as in milking the booby), encouraging frequent low-effort posts gaming the bot for profits at the expense of the reward pool.

I wrote about it 3 months ago here: https://blurtlatam.intinte.org/blurt/@drutter/blurtbooster

Blurtbooster also votes on witnesses with the printed stake, greatly affecting who has influence and income on Blurt that way as well.

Happy new year and have a great day!


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Ok! This is good information. I'll read the links you left (and read all the comments). Thank you for those Drutter! (And yes! Happy 2023 to you as well my friend!) 🙏

By the way... I'm sure you address this in your posts but do you know who is directing this legacy stake? Surely it's not just a bot on the loose. There must be someone with a reason (tbd?) behind this...

As well... @khrom do you have a particular take on the blurtbooster account? I would be very interested to hear your thoughts. 🙏

As well... I'm wondering what your thoughts are Dan and Tom. 🙏 @world-travel-pro @outofthematrix

And while I'm asking around... I just voted @nalexadre for witness as I appreciate the work he is doing to get relevant and valuable information to us. Nalexadre do you have any thoughts about the blurtbooster account? I would be most appreciative to hear your thoughts on this topic. 🙏

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Thanks a lot for your support @wil.metcalfe, as with everything that concerns IT, the bot blurtbooster does not escape the rule of the race with the abusers who always find a solution to hack the system.

Even if it has a certain number of rules as the fact of also looking at the comments made by the author that I have not seen mentioned above, a latency of a number of posts before the first vote etc. ... (for more info about the rules I think the best person is @saboin) some people find flaws, like using multi-translation in their posts for example.

For me, its main weakness is its too high and uncapped vote.

blurtbooster isn't the stake of only one person but it works the same way as upvu, you delegate a part of your BP to it and in exchange you receive a part of the curation.

My vision of Blurt is that of a syrup concentrate that needs to be diluted with water to be digestible.

I think that the upcoming arrival of communities on BLURT will be good for the ecosystem as it will make it easier for everyone to find their place, see the content that interests them more easily, and maybe the solution to dilute this syrup concentrate.

This facilitates the creation of frontends that present the BLURT blockchain in a different way, if the whales play the game by supporting some community owners through a remunerative delegation rather than using voting bots it can be an excellent booster too.

That's why in addition to the integration of communities on BeBlurt I'm also working on a system of delegation with automatic redistribution accessible to all owners of communities or other and to try to counterweight accounts like blurtbooster or upvu

As @khrom said very well

Well, I wouldn't see it so badly. some things just take time. I think we'll have to wait a year and a half to see how things go.

Blurt has both assets and interesting people (even those with whom we can have a different opinion as long as mutual respect is present) when you take the time to get to know them. Just like IRL, not everything is perfect, it's mainly a question of the slider between the positive/negative and our ability to make compromises while recognizing those made by people with whom we may have disagreements.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Hey Wil, I did a post about that here. An excerpt:

Thousands of people have now figured out how to soak up the majority of the Blurt Power on this chain, pumping out snapshots of flowers growing near their house, low-effort Actifit posts, and other complete nonsense - the exact stuff we already have too much of here. They sign up multiple accounts, and tell all their friends/family, and Blurt fills up more and more with literal garbage. And they are compensated handsomely for it. It's a form of reward-farming, and we are encouraging it. These users are not the type to provide real content, nor are they investors that bring funds to the platform and increase the price of the token. In fact, they are the opposite, milking the system and continuously reducing the price of the token.

Why do we systematically encourage this?

The Blurtbooster wallet shows most of the BP is delegated from @initblurt, @instablurt, @megadrive, and @socialgraph. Blurtbooster is currently liquidating 80,000 BLURT per week. This is the largest powerdown draining the blockchain, aside from @instablurt, @socialgraph, and @blurtyield. The latter of which appears to be little more than a fund for circle-jerker @rycharde to farm 100% upvotes on every single comment.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

"will never eliminate corruption and corruption in 100%, you can only make sure that they are at an acceptable level."

Corruption on Blurt is not at an acceptable level. It is so bad that it is ruining the platform for all users except the corrupt insiders. For example, I am one of the top curators AND top creators, and yet I am not growing, nor am I reaching anyone with my message, nor am I making any money.

"mk and ctime put me or fervi on the first position"

I'm happy that happened, but it did not solve the problem. As you have pointed out, witnesses can only witness, they do not have access to the back end of the platform, they don't gain access to the printed stake (which dominates the blockchain), they can't ban or unban users, freeze or unfreeze wallets, etc.

"we could veto any unfavorable changes in the blockchain"

Could we really? All we need is another witness or two that thinks like us, and we can fix things? What can we fix? I've never been a witness so your advice would be valuable.

"setting up own RPC node + image server, own frontend and if it was really hot, what a glue chain separation and how with hive and steem when justin appeared and then it's fun in your own backyard."

Can you explain this a bit more?

"I think the main mistake in your thinking is that you look at this network as a broken item that needs to be fixed otherwise it is useless, and not.. as an ecosystem or a town."

I look at this network as an ecosystem or town that is broken and needs to be fixed.

"if necessary, there will be another "blurt" to which they will move"

Yeah, maybe. It seems that with each move, we get smaller and smaller, leaving behind a majority of people who simply don't care enough to make the change. And the token price just gets smaller and smaller as well. Blurt's top price was 0.11 and we may never get back there. Hive's top was 3.4, and Steem's top was 8.2 USD. In each case, the top came early on, except Hive, which existed since 2020 and had its top in Nov 2021. Will Blurt get back to the tiny price of 0.11 USD? We are down 97% from there at the moment.

I agree Blurt is better in some ways than Steem and Hive, for example, it has a more original name. I know of many Steems and Hives on the internet but I don't know of any other Blurts. We could definitely use a better logo, though... that angry face drives a lot of people away.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Corruption on Blurt is not at an acceptable level. It is so bad that it is ruining the platform for all users except the corrupt insiders.

well, here you need specific numbers and charts because based on impressions, you can only speculate. There is a problem, but no one has yet clearly estimated how serious it is.

I'm happy that happened, but it did not solve the problem. As you have pointed out, witnesses can only witness, they do not have access to the back end of the platform, they don't gain access to the printed stake (which dominates the blockchain), they can't ban or unban users, freeze or unfreeze wallets, etc.

not quite so. Witness has a version of the blockchain network that he can modify in any way through a hard fork that he can perform.

The problem is that in order for such changes to pass, most witnesses must agree to this update and upload it to their installations or it will simply not pass. Basically, the relevant specialists could thus gain full control over the blurt if they were in the majority of the top 20 simply by updating accordingly. This is why, according to the MD team, the blurtbooster was created. In part, the intention to secure the network with a rate controlled by the founders so that they could not be easily thrown out of the top 20 is therefore right because it protects the network from, for example, another Justin Sun who could simply take over the network with a huge amount of money. The problem is that in addition to this advantage, there are also numerous disadvantages that you know, of course.

Can you explain this a bit more?
The RPC is used to connect and get information about the blockchain, this is its main purpose. all front ends and explorers use it.

And image servers storing all images of course.


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