RE: Blurt Discussion: How to deal with Fraud, Plaigraism and Copyright

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Blurt Discussion: How to deal with Fraud, Plaigraism and Copyright

in witness-discussion •  3 years ago 

For me it is simple, anyone who performs any kind of plagiarism, who violates Burt's rules, whether scammer or proven farmer, even if there is no Downvote function, his account should be disabled. Then some will tell me that the democratic principle has been violated or the freedom of expression, but if we look at the damage that these people do to the blockchain and other users, then the welfare of a few can not be above the majority even though there is full freedom. This can be done through a consensus of witnesses or a group of people who agree to proceed to disable such accounts.

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

This can be done through a consensus of witnesses or a group of people who agree to proceed to disable such accounts.

WTF is this? Oh Yeah, secret discord court - hivewatchers

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

HiveWatchers has remained just another puppet of the powerful, it was never intended to protect the platform. On the contrary, just say that a powerful person is acting badly and you will notice how unrestrictedly he and only he can make a decision without consulting anyone. What is wrong with saying that several people can agree to apply a measure? I said witnesses or group of people. Because if he is the criterion of only one what happens in Hive happens, but a group of people can agree or disagree with something being applied. And with respect to being hidden, it is as transparent as the system is designed. As the guidelines are made around the issue at hand, I don't recall a public consultation being done to find out if they wanted HiveWartchers, or if they currently agree with their actions.I even remember xenophobic events against Venezuelan users and the powerful just applaud and laugh, the question is why can't it be different in Blurt?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

hivewatchers are group of people/puppets and they are paid by their masters (check who approved HV proposal)

It's not gonna work. I prefer real anarchy

Steem cleaners hive watchers is TERRIBLE. I got flagged by them so many times for genuine content, I wouldn't mind so much if they just asked nicely for me to come and let them know it's my work but each time they just called me a plagiarist and flagged all my posts to zero with some auto down vote, even my comments and I had to go and find them and then make links on my twitter etc. It is just RUDE. If you are unsure ask the person politely for a chat or to present themselves. They did it to me 3 times as well because they kept losing the sheets.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I was always pro downvotes, even when they took my reputation down , but when I noticed that they are zeroing almost every post in communities like deep dives, I said enough.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

I completely disagree with down voting it’s childish and pathetic I mute anyone who does it so I never interact with them. Fair enough for spam, plagerism etc but just because you think something is overvalued whilst your getting hundreds of dollars for shit posts yourself is a laugh. Most the ones doing it are getting very high votes for very average posts. They also do it because they just don’t like someone etc. Now on a personal level that’s not so bad but most of them are given delegation, they are supposed to be moderating the platform to some degree and they are just corrupt. Taking posts down whilst getting 150 dollars for a screen shot themselves and having multiple accounts.

It puts people into a horrible state too if they rely on the platform and then have to sit for seven days worrying if they will get that money and in fear it will be taken away. It’s putting people into a state of survival who are often timed usint these platforms to get out of that state.

Honestly they are just the worst ppl in society. In real life they would be the debt collectors taking money off the old woman with terminal cancer. I actually think it’s psychological abuse really. People might be reliant on those payouts and it’s one thing for them to never get them but to see them and have them taken away. We have no idea what those payments are going towards. It’s also disrespectful to those who used their power to upvote posts they liked and appreciated. I’ve never down voted anyone in my life without a really valid reason. I probably tried to flag a down voter once and some extreme spam comments that just repeated the same comment over and over. Otherwise I never have and never will downvote.

What’s the difference by the way between a black list and a mute?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

That's what we are here for, to give our opinion and even to listen to uncomfortable truths.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

This guy has a good idea… https://blurt.blog/blurt/@ctime/hello-blurt

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Imagine for a second that someone for whatever reason leaves you several comments claiming that you are a spammer or stealing content what can happen?

  1. in the first case as is well known in the three sister networks so to speak, is very small group of people who tend to read publications of others so just leave a comment is something that does not help much, only if by chance the person comes across your publication and goes to the comments section

2 ) Now imagine the same exercise and a group of people are dedicated to leave you these messages, either just to make you uncomfortable, then how would you be affected if others take these statements as true without any evidence?

Quaternary ideas like HiveWatchers manipulated by whales because there is no other way to see it, and bot like chetah for me are something absurd and inefficient, so it is better to sit down and look for better alternatives and above all learn from the mistakes that others have made. That is why we are in Blurt and time has proven us right, Down Vote, self-interest and above all the generalized mistreatment of the powerful with tools like the one mentioned above are causing a collapse at many levels, only that people live a stockholm syndrome and love their kidnapper. Sorry if I sound dramatic, I am just trying to establish some guidelines.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I found a company that will go after people who steal content.

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  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Who will pay the costs? Once plagiarized content is located, what will be the measures?

There are many ways to determine plagiarized content, to establish algorithms to help identify fraud. However, if measures are not implemented to disable these accounts, we will be at the mercy of the fraudsters. I recently reported the theft of funds in Hive and the response was that they could not disable the accounts, so it is known that there are massive thefts and no one cares. There should be mechanisms beyond the detection of plagiarism or fraud that allow us to disable those accounts and burn the funds and send them to null.

The kyc is an excellent option so that there is only one person per account. But it is only the beginning.

@ctime: In my opinion accounts should be disabled only if they are scamming people into clicking on a phishing site to steal their funds.

And I do not find any other reason worthy to disable or ban an account.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I think that you might see it differently when you are affected yourself.
If someone uses your identity, your knowledge, your skills, your texts, your art, whatever, to enrich themselves....

I agree completely, plagiarism, scamming and real spamming i.e posting the same repetitive thing over and over again. Otherwise let the people decide else you just get a small circle jerk deciding who is worthy to earn money.