I think it is hard enough to generate anti-psyops that is effective - never mind guiding people to a different bullshit. We have experience that facts and thinking don't work, coz most people don't think much - they react. So, maybe I should get back into that strand - the antidote. I'm not a huge fan of memes - most are lame and derivative and largely unfunny - but they are easy to swallow. They would have to be dark-trigger-memes - encapsulating the horrors.
This is precisely mass deprogramming. I'm not sure it has ever been done because most methods seek to replace one programme with another, eg replace communism with religion, or replace fear of persecution with fear of being bombed into oblivion etc etc.
I've known of Passio for years, but never really delved in as seems all obvious, which is funny coz it means we prob agree on most points. I agree with everything he lists as a psyop - and glad he added Q and flat-earthers, and for precisely the same reasons as I had when first confronted with them - do not trust anybody who demands you to trust them! Flat-earthers have the added bonus of being deeply retarded, manifestly live on videos too. The blind leading the blind off a cliff.
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Which is why, when forced to take up violence;
These men who wanted to be left alone fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives;
still can't find a source but that doesn't make it any less true.
We need to focus on growing independent I believe. Then help our neighbors achieve it too. Share our fruits to the needy. Follow the crucified heart that was smacked between two hard places, sex magic control and the perverted mind.
sounds like a rosicrucian ;-)
Are neighbours "needy"?
IMO those who know, or suspect, or are already on a path, need to first become stronger and more powerful. Adamantine, unflinching power.
The Socratic method of question everything, believe nothing, is an intellectual start - but note that he was sentenced to death - but most people really can't do it.
Using that intellectual start, one then reaches - or should reach - some questions that have no answer apart from having an experience! That is the point at which one uses meditation techniques to focus the mind on that question - like a koan, we each have one.
With intention, focus and correct techniques, one can achieve breakthrough transcendental states. Then it is no longer theoretical.
So mote it be.
Nah I ain't one but gnostic teachings is something I have come to find that is worth looking into. Especially if one wants to improve spiritually.
I think we could all need a lighter burden on our shoulders. Helping them achieve it is by no means here, doing the job for them. Merely show them how so that they an have the right guide and destination to achieve that success. I wouldn't want to have human strays begging for more fruits of my hard earned work. More like, here's a fruit for now, and here's how you can make yours while yours grows into fruition. Now leave me alone, goodluck and don't quit, have a good day. Lol
You know there is a skype group thay teaches the socratic method for use in court to win from the No State Project by Marc Stevens. frankrizzo3 is the username. Add him send a message to get in and then get into the role playing. Not only will you learn socratic method but you will own the court with ease amd beat them at their own game by using it against them. Keeping burden of proof on them all the time.
What is a koan? First I have heard of it.
A scientificly proven method for self improvement is needed?
I am not sure but I have started reading this. Maybe it can be found here or as it states,aybe we just lacked understanding what that method is (because aparentemente we have already applied it to ourselves unknowingly) and just repeat it more often.
mmm... scientology is a known cult.
I've known people trying to escape - they were hounded - and this was IRL, not some net-story.
That doesn't mean some of the dianetics exercises are wrong or ineffective, but Hubbard seems to have learnt them in a psychiatric hospital - as a patient.
I have also owned some of their "secret" books - sold them for a very nice profit - and they are no better than science fiction.
There are many methods available. I prefer going back to any originals, so things such as Tibetan Buddhism - indeed, all the yogas, mental and physical, are available and exist within many Eastern traditions; just needs a good teacher that isn't FOS.
A very new technique would be the hemi-sync from the Monroe Institute.
I think the key is that SELF-improvement requires a start. My comment that you quote refers to anti-psyops as a mass effect; seems like you took it to mean personal protection. OK, that too, as I suspect "mass effect" has to act on each individual one by one. But a psyops works because then those individuals reinforce their new beliefs by interacting with each other. That's a cult.
We are at the point where the truth will be a cult - just to protect itself!!
That is also not new ;-)
OK, to clarify, psyops work en masse without the originator of the content having personal contact with the mass of people. The projection and psychological effects are achieved through media.
hence, my comment was about whether any anti-psyops would work in the same modality. From what I've seen, it doesn't (yet) work - it works best on the individual using real life stories, eg the vax-deaths, the phone-zombies, the child-traffiking etc.
But, I also see that the believers have a deep belief-function in their brains, and hence are more easily flipped from one belief to another, rather than being free, they get a better prison.
Hubbard is a scientologist?
I was not aware of hubbard ever being in a psychiatric hospital. Been in one myself for a couple months after I outed myself at 14. Not a good place to be. They drugged me up and I lied about me to get out quicker. Then I discovered we were all living in the matrix and sought to get out of that too ever since, despite the constant efforts to drag me back in, in various shapes and forms.
It's hard for me to believe anything and trust. I trust experiences to be real. And when I look back into them, I can learn more that way and improve in more areas than lets say "accepting Jesús" just by going to church and praying and practicing their saturnic, pagan rituals and pretend its Christianity at play. (I have much loathe for religious institutions, the hypocrisy filled room is like a deterrent for me).
Wpuld love to say more but I am running late to get ready for wage slavery. One day though. Independence is on the horizon.
huh!? Ron Hubbard invented Scientology!
Wnkipedia has far too many entries for him - a huge minestrone of truth, propaganda and omissions. If I can recall an untainted biog I'll post a link, but even the public mish-mash is interesting.
This might be a start = https://www.spaink.net/cos/essays/atack_berlin.html
and https://archive.org/details/pieceofblueskysc00atac/page/n1/mode/2up (available on libgen)
You're lucky your lies worked to get out!
I didn't take the history lesson scientology, their twisted methods were just obvious to me from studying other cults and religions. Actually surprised I missed that tid bit. I'll be more careful reading that book. Haven't gotten too deep into yet. Thanks for the links.