RE: Moving forward into the past: old technology recycled & free energy for all (The Earth Battery explained)

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Moving forward into the past: old technology recycled & free energy for all (The Earth Battery explained)

in energy •  2 years ago 

What does that have to do with free energy production if you take materials that are only brought into their state of a certain purity or compound through the manufacturing process in the first place?

If you take metals like copper, zinc, lead, carbon, aluminium, steel, then energy has already been used to produce such metals or precious metals. They don't grow on trees and can simply be picked.

Furthermore, you can't measure the strength of the voltages if you don't have a measuring device that reads off the numbers. A lot of energy has already gone into the manufacturing process of such readers to bring them into existence in the first place.

From the extraction of the required raw materials, composites, mass production by machine, distribution, retail sales and payment by the end user or industry. To extract enough raw materials from the earth, you need machines or muscle power, you need knowledge of where to find the coveted raw materials and how to pull or isolate them from the source, etc. etc.
There are countless individual steps in this entire value chain, all of which first use energy to extract energy.

Here is just a small example for copper:

To produce copper, copper stone is first extracted from chalcopyrite (Cu2S). To do this, coke is added to chalcopyrite and it is roasted (conversion of sulphurous ores by heating to 500 to 1100 °C with the addition of air.

This means that even if such earth batteries could theoretically be built by you or me and you could use them to generate electricity for appliances or even a house, you would first have to buy (or find) the necessary metals and other materials. In other words, you are using energy that has already been expended, by means of fossil fuels or nuclear energy or some other form of energy. So there is nothing free about it and I find the term misleading.

Apart from that, there is nothing wrong with experimenting with materials and ideas, as the gentleman in your videos does, and keeping a refreshing attitude. He addresses certain issues and it doesn't look like he already knows all the solutions, which he himself freely admits and points out that the commentators under his videos are sources of knowledge. There will be a lot of trial and error and such is perse always a good experience if you want to create something yourself or expand your inventiveness.

But no matter what you undertake, you always need already spent energy, already finished materials, already achieved knowledge. In order to be able to follow certain steps yourself, you need time, learning energy, exchange energy, etc., while you continue to be supplied with food and shelter and also electricity from others.

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  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

It may have taken X amount of energy to create the metals etc, but who cares when the amount of energy you can get back from this is unlimited?

It is free energy not because it has cost nothing to create the device which harnesses it but because the energy itself never stops. And from the moment you activate your machine there are no further costs.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

It would be nice if you could power your fridge, lights and electrical appliances with the means shown. I have nothing against using or recycling already existing materials, why should I?

It's just that I find the term incorrect. The gentleman in the video, I think, has made it quite clear that he is in an experimental stage with this form of energy generation and has used various combinations of metals to arrive at 0.9 volt current. However, the whole thing shown was not yet a finished energy source and to be convinced that the construction of this battery could be used or would work over a longer period of time, it would have had to be seen in action. Which was not the case.

As long as no one can successfully demonstrate in a self-experiment and proves that the thing works, I remain sceptical about the "simplicity" of the matter. I don't rule out the possibility that it could work, only I don't believe that, firstly, it is that simple and, secondly, that the dimension of the application shown could power various electricity-using devices in a household. Which would make it more interesting.

If you can devote the time and energy to dig deep into this subject and are determined to build such a battery and make it a success, I am the last person to try to stop you. However, to meet the devil in the detail requires your time and therefore your energy to be invested in something like this, which ties it up for other things. Therefore, it is not free, but conditional.

You have it yet not started, so I wonder why you already talk about an amount of energy you can get back from this is unlimited? How can you know in advance without testing it?

So, what you've got so far is a theory.
Now you go into the next phase, trial and error, to see, if the experiments always are having the same result. You compare your own results with those of other people, for example, doing the very same thing and you collect the data. You need for that a forum, a data base in which you can put your results and numbers and in which you can prove, for example, the degree of purity or the degree of composites of the metals you use, for example and many things more. You even might receive confusing results etc. etc.

If you are not interested in meeting challenging questions I wonder of what kind of an experimenter you are? It's the critique, the questions, the sceptic attitude which can be used to meet certain hinderances and thoughts yet not considered.

I will give you some more in the next comment, not to make this one too long.

Have you seen this yet? Earth Engine Model 30 Demonstration https://www.facebook.com/inductanceenergy/videos/earth-engine-model-30-demonstration/364455367543206/

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He was using old recycled bits of metal and so can we. I used to deal in scrap so know how to recycle copper. Old wiring can be stripped quite easily to make copper wires.
The point of this whole post was to show we had free energy many times before on this realm but for some reason we always get 'reset' and the technology is taken away from us.
This earth battery IS simple enough for even me to have a go at.


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This earth battery IS simple enough for even me to have a go at.

Exactly right.

Looking forward to seeing your results!


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I would love to see you doing it and documenting this experiment in a way people are able to understand. :)

It may sound harsh but I don't like to bother myself with "held back technology" but instead would like to see if what sounds nice in theory can be put into practice in an equal easy going way. I am acting a bit of an asshole to test the determination.

Well there's a distinct lack of determination on my part, more like lots of procrastination.......


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