Without being an expert on the topic, I would have to say it could be a grey area. In the sense of whether or not there is consent from all parties involved preliminarily.
Upon a quick research I also see that murder is being committed in this area as well.
- The many human embryos killed or discarded during the process
- Even if a successful pregnancy is achieved, there are often too many embryos in the opinion of the doctors, and so many women resort to “pregnancy reduction” abortions.
5- “Spare” embryos must not be discarded, frozen, or experimented upon, and procedures such as “selective abortion” (pregnancy reduction) must not be used. “Those embryos which are not transferred into the body of the mother and are called ‘spare’ are exposed to an absurd fate, with no possibility of their being offered safe means of survival which can be licitly pursued” (I, 5).
https://www.hli.org/resources/in-vitro-fertilization-ethical-issues/
Exodus 21:22 is, however, a part of the Bible that actually does mention the fetus. “When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman’s husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”
This is fascinating because it outlines specific punishments for specific crimes. If a woman is hurt in a struggle and then has a miscarriage, the penalty is a fine, a mere financial payment. But, if there is further harm, likely meaning the woman has long-term and serious injuries or even dies, then the culprit could be killed. In other words, the life and well-being of the woman, the mother, is of much greater significance than those of her unborn child.
also notice the "payment" is determined by and is paid to the father
That might be something for Christians to consider, but then they accept the many genocides that were commanded as well.
well, it's also an example of how "induced miscarriage" has historically not met the same penalty as "murder"
I remember thinking way back...
What I'd do if I survived..
IF
oh yes there is.
make the purchase of pregnancy tests require an id.
each pregnancy test is issued with a unique serial number.
every purchased pregnancy test must be returned and registered within 30 days.
anyone who returns a positive pregnancy test is issued a "(pre)birth-certificate" and if they don't produce a living child in approximately 9 months
they will be investigated for child endangerment and or criminal negligence and or manslaughter and or murder
problem solved
Not sure who you were quoting there, but once again that would point to an issue with those who believe they own us.
"grey area" doesn't seem to adequately describe "mass murder"
Indeed it doesn't. I wrote that first part before doing a little looking into it and saw there was such taking place and should have changed it but was in a hurry.
still more thoughtful than most, by a mile