RE: Self upvoting for witnesses ONLY - A proposal....For the future growth of Blurt.

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Self upvoting for witnesses ONLY - A proposal....For the future growth of Blurt.

in blurtlife •  3 years ago 

The internet as a place of representation for ethics and morality is already questionable in and of itself or leads away from reality, in my view. I consider it difficult or even impossible to try to make agreement on questions of morality and ethics a convention on the net. People fight each other on virtual ground and most of those who have not shifted their main lifestyle to the net world might not care.

But if already in the real, non-representative world no agreement can be reached on what is ethically and morally right or wrong, then you will certainly not be able to do it in the digital world, because here the lack of relationships has multiplied many times over.

Take the two of us, for example. We have no relationship to each other, neither of a business nor of a private nature. We meet in a publicly accessible space. Neither obligation nor friendship binds us; neither you nor I can demand attention or complain effectively if given too much or too little. It would have no particular effect on my emotional or financial or other life.

For my part, I wouldn't have it any other way. Because if I wanted the conflict about what is moral or immoral to extend to the digital space, then I would at the same time enter into a very large dependency with this space, for example, by limiting my primary or even only financial possibilities, my only social encounters to this internet (blockchains, "social networks" etc.).

If someone in my family/friends falls ill or dies or is born, then it is not my "social media contacts" who are a support to me in this, just as the other way round. They are too far away, I don't work with them, I don't even know their real name, etc. In such an anonymous environment, it's impossible for them to be a support to me. In this context, one cannot speak of real friendship at all. At the most, one can speak of business relationships.

I speak out quite clearly against such a life, against a dominant representation of my existence as an internet person.

It seems to me that you are speaking out in favour of it because, as it looks to me, you seem to regard your earning potential here as primary and express your social needs frequently.

Your expressive resistance to the powers that be doesn't seem to take into account that in the digital, relationship-detached world, you are stuck in an endless loop of debate and gossip that knows no bedtimes and no end. In what quality and intensity can you actually discuss in your physical environment the topics that you address on the blockchain? For my part, I think that such never-ending digital talk is definitely wanted and welcomed by the ruling powers.
The more keyboard time the better.

Will people find spaces for a non digital life, or, as little as possible?

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

DECENTRALIZED JURY

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I watched it but cannot make any sense of it. Also due to understand his colored english accent which I have a hard time to follow.
Can you give me some short summary and the essence of what is being said?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

they created a blockchain based system where participants are randomly selected to participate in a jury system

in order to test the system, they created a contest with a huge prize pool (something like 20 ethereum or something)

the challenge was to submit a picture of a cat and get a jury to answer "YES" to the question "is this a doge ?"

the test of the decentralized - - randomized jury system - - and appeal system - - was extremely successful

i believe this is the best possible jury system for moderation


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I still don't get it.
Sorry.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

steemcleaners / hivewatchers / blurtwardens all CLAIM to represent "the will of the community"

but have a decidedly "guilty until proven innocent" policy with no truly neutral appeals process

a DECENTRALIZED JURY (and transparent appeals system) system solves this problem

if someone thinks content should be removed or an account should be sanctioned in some way

then a panel of jurors would be (randomly) selected who would either vote "YES" or "NO"

this would represent "the will of the community" better than any "self-appointed" vigilantes


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Would you say that they also could opt for "dismissing" a case out of perceived irrelevance? Would you elaborate on that idea and propose it?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

i am unfamiliar with the proposal procedure

the idea of a decentralized jury seems so obviously "good" that it is difficult for me to imagine anyone not recognizing it (once they hear of it)


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I would need seeing it playing out to really grasp it. What's obvious to you is not obvious for me. HaHa!
But then, a jury would not do it in the open?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

the following is just an example

a dispute resolution system where any transaction (post) can only be disputed (flagged) once, and when a transaction is disputed, 1000 random users are notified and if they fail to respond within a set time frame (say, 48 hours) their option is forfeit and it goes to another random user.

A transaction can only be canceled (removed) if a 60% consensus is reached by the randomized jury.

If there is no 60% consensus (even if it's a 599 to 401 split) then the transaction remains unaffected.

There is no penalty for simply being disputed, there is no "held pending trial" status.

There is a small incentive paid to jury members for their participation and there is a small added bonus for voting with the majority iff there is a 60% majority (and the votes are hidden from all participants until voting is completed).


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Ahhh... Thank you very much, now I have a much clearer picture about your jury idea.

There are some things in the very background of my mind though who give an "alarm" about it but I am not quite sure what those thoughts are trying me to tell.

I might come back to it.

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