AN INVESTORS POINT OF VIEW ON "THE SITUATION"

in blurt •  3 years ago  (edited)

Recently it's become very clear that the "Hive Cabal" is trying to label myself and others speaking out against them as bitter complainers that just complain about Hive on Blurt!

For starters....they are 100% correct, it's far better and more effective to complain about Hive on Hive instead of on Blurt. But that's just me half kidding around. The question is, is complaining the right word to describe what is going on here?

In Who's Interest Does This Narrative Get Pushed?

One of the main accusers referring to be me and others as childish bitter complainers is @themarkymark, a completely anonymous top witness on Hive. No name, no location, no video, no photo...just a cartoon face and millions of HP backing it, which he received in the very early days for basically being a member of their club and running a scam called a bid-bot. (Probably the "Cabal" knows exactly who this guy is and that's about it.)

Lets not forget the "Hive Cabal" is made up of mostly anonymous top witnesses. Imagine if Microsoft or any other major company was run by totally anonymous people. Talk about being able to get away with murder and have zero accountability. It's just crazy to think about what a crooked joke Hive really is in this regard.

What the "Hive Cabal" is infamous for is putting people they target on permanent auto down-vote lists while slandering your name for weeks and even months regardless of what anyone thinks. They are the rulers of the roost, period; as they claim Hive to be decentralized.

This is how they take care of business on Hive and something they do often. Look at what they did to @cryptopie for goodness sake. Frankly unreal. Let's not even mention @gringalicious and her 250,000 HP now gone. She also happens to be well known for being from a religious Christian family. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it either.

Scroll through my blog and tell me if I deserved the same exact treatment? While chasing off over 40k of my investment and making me a champion for their main competition Blurt.

Did I just complain or did I share a bit of information that maybe you or someone else reading this was unaware of?

"They" use the word complaining, to describe what is going on here. I would politely say that I feel this is generally quite an incorrect way of looking at it.

I'm totally for speaking the truth about Hive, Blurt, and Steemit based on the information I've gathered along with my personal experience. If the truth is ugly on any of the platforms for one reason or another, then they are responsible for that.

We (the outspoken) are not here to help sweep any platforms dirty laundry under the rug. To be silent aids the guilty and corrupt. To be silent leads the masses to bad decision making. If the truth clearly shows for a multiple of reasons it's better on Blurt; then let people know, and let people know why. It is so important to be outspoken so the masses can be empowered to make better decisions for themselves.

Silence is Costing Investors Lots of Money

I was telling people to start Hive's ridiculously long 13 week power down and sell everything back in late October, when I saw Hive start it's parabolic move up to $3.50. All these months later and with a price already about 75% off it's highs, I continue to recommend people to power down and sell as they will likely just lose more money by not doing so.

My ability to read charts and markets combined with what I've learned about the hive management led me to decide to power down and sell. I started powering down one week before they came after me as well. Another coincidence? maybe...

Point is I was able to make very good financial decisions about when to exit the Hive market with 20x gains. Those who listened to me they too got out of Hive with an average price well above a dollar. I've been in the markets and managing money for almost 20 years, and this has much influence with how I look at the situation at hand.

What must be taken away from this story of investing....is that as an investor or market participant you need as much truthful information as possible to make good financial decisions. To just be silent on such things we discuss aids poor financial decision making.

To favor remaining silent, while referring to speaking up and sharing valuable information as "complaining"; is something I do not believe to be in the best interest of the masses or investors of any of the three platforms. In fact remaining silent only favors centralizing power to the 1% of each platform.

What About Nasty Language and Name Calling?

If you are bothered that some of the negative information gets released with a bit of name calling and aggression. Lets not forget that many people are naturally bitter with how they've been treated on Hive after devoting so much time and energy to it.

It's important to remember that it is human nature to be upset when mistreated by others; and it will result in anything from colorful language to name calling and whatever else. But the information and underlying message will often still remain valid.

To express your frustrations publicly or not is at the behest of the writer. Personally I think it's healthy to let it out after being so mistreated, while others with a similar abusive experience can comment and make you feel not so alone.

Being Made to Feel Alone is Part of the Abusive Down-vote Culture on Hive.

Anyone who speaks positively or defends the person being attacked, immediately puts themselves in the cross hairs of being attacked as well. It's an "us" vs "them" kind of place on Hive. You must go with the big money opinion, you must go with the "hive-mind", or risk becoming their next down-vote target.

With this down-vote system in place the person being attacked is immediately treated like a leper; which is frankly horrible, disgusting, and totally the fault of the down-vote system. A system of self censorship, leaving the one being attacked to be left feeling totally alone. They only have one option; beg for forgiveness. Innocent or guilty it does not matter.

In order to be let back in the club a session of humiliating begging and admitting fault is your only choice. With income and money being held over people's head, I would say about 99% take this rout. I even took this rout for while, but a lot of the time it doesn't even matter. They can not be open and honest about exactly why you must be eliminated, or it would make them look as corrupt and despicable as they actually are.

Final Thoughts

In conclusion, Blurt's no down-vote button is a smart and powerful anti-bully/anti-drama feature. I believe this is just another reason why Blurt is a far better platform and a place I feel good holding investment.

If you still choose to equate "complaining" to be the same as sharing negative information about something people invest large sums of money in; that is perfectly okay, and I suggest you stick to your day job.

When trouble lurks around the corner, the best response is to either attack the messenger or immediately stick your head in the sand! For this situation both choices are highly recommended by the faceless leaders on Hive. The decision is truly yours! Until next time - Dan "World Travel Pro!"

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  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

I asked for forgiveness because i did something wrong in their book , i actually dont make any money in hive , there are some people i like there and they are not in blurt , i started to collection punks with a friend , also marky has always been nice and you say we dont know who he is , well this is good for 85% of people and even the ones who show videos and selfies , you dont know their real name ...anyway for me it is about few nice connections , i wrote and shared a misogynist post for a friend in hive to lift her spirit and she laughed so hard and was feeling better , that is all it takes and matters ...anger should be 2nd degree always because life can be hard and the joy is more important .
I understand you were making decent money there and when they cut the air it was surely shocking for you , what about if they never downvoted you ? Would you have done something for others ? Since the DV are happening for a very long time now .
Your post was very interesting to read , the way you see bullying is interesting too ,
But bullying is everywhere , DV or not , if you open your eyes and are honest about it .
What i dont understand is that a lot of people make money even tough they speak subjects that are OFF the "rules" .
So i really dont know what is going on and it is sad that all blockchains are so disconnected when we are so few people to use them and it is supposed to be a good or enlightning experience .

Interesting enough , Blurt has half of the amount of coins hive holds , so it should be very positive for the future .


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Thanks , my pleasure


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I was skeptical about Blurt but after joining it and seeing that comments cost money I realized that this is a much more superior method of spam prevention than downvotes. 😂

Exactly! Blurt is an anti BS, streamline social media service with an incredibly bright future. Thank you for stopping by and here is a nice up-vote to cover your next week of posts and comments.

to be honest it's the only blockchain social with engaging comments actually, I think it's the only one I genuinely get enjoyment from and partake in interesting discussion.

I think it’s because people can be themselves, I was also boring on hive because I was always looking over my shoulder can I type this is this going to offend someone? am I going to get a down vote ? so it makes people weird posters with nothing really to say and no proper discussion.@

There is nothing to do there but keep your head down and "farm" as said in their own words. Another way they are destroying themselves. But if you're into fantasizing about Jeffry Dhamar type homicide like @nonameslefttouse then you have nothing to worry about in terms of down vote and reprimand.

yeah thats how I felt there, there was that element you felt you could almost find life freedom just blogging and not really speaking much but as an actual experience the chat was dull as dishwater and it was always a feeling of dread wondering how much of your post would make it to pay day even up to 1 hour before lol, it was really no way to live and not worth the breadcrumbs.

by the way check the discord I think a bunch of us should organise a type of blurt fest, I have some amazing ideas, the ones that ive seen on YouTube are so dry looking I think we could do something way more fun like a festival and individuals sharing their skills not just listening to dry speeches.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

did you ever read meester booms post, I genuinely had no idea what they were about, it was the strangest thing I came across. Yet they NEVER got 'over rewarded'.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I have no clue about the future of hive. I would like to see a change of top witnesses like how politicians must be changes every so often. It is like a baby wearing the same diaper all day, it becomes an ugly mess.

However, the stake "game" makes it so that those who were there first are the main beneficiaries for life if they never power down and distribute the coin. When the top own the majority of the coin, then there is no decentralization, same with stake weight. If I understand correctly, a good part of the value of a coin is the decentralized distribution of the coin. They know this, and thus create hundreds of accounts daily and distribute their own wealth into this method. Nothing wrong with having more wallets. However they also use these extra accounts to make pseudo anonymous attacks against free speech making accounts for political reasons.

The Downvote feature is like having the ability to make a physical attack. They do very well in using that against real abusers which I see no problem if the rewards they swipe didnt go back to the top 1% who mainly do these attacks.

They say it goes to the trending. Well that would be cool indeed but they control what goes to trending and on top of that, they vote hard on those to take away from other voters. This is due to the crab bucket function. Or like having a bunch of marbles of different sizes on a trampoline but then drop a bowling ball and what happens? The marbles goes towards the bowling ball and the other smaller votes get scraps for dinner.

There has been talk of making a proposal for having the DV rewards be burned instead. Which is totally feasible with a HF or SF (not sure on the code on this). Another proposed idea was adding the ability to DV witnesses from the witness list as a means to even the playing field in power. I don't remember where this conversation took place. Maybe @logiczombie knows.... She has been non stop on top of what has been going on for quite some time and holds a large HP in vote delegation for being proxy to many accounts. She is also not posting any new posts but re editing the same post so to not get DV'd. Smart but she grts no rewards this way apart from what people may donate for her efforts via direct transactions.

Without Hive being decentralized we just have another Stinc but with various "Justin Sun's" instead of one calling the shots.

As @lucylin has pointed out perfectly, it is digital feudalism when DPOS is mixed with the DV function.

Yes it is definitely better on blurt. Real free speech is honored here. And with no digital guns to tear your account down for expressing the truth or opinions of your own or others, why would those who value liberty would want to join Hive?

I will say that it is perfectly fine to invest in hive, IF the top parasitic witnesses stepped down inpower. I doubt it highly. The next more likely scenario is have them confronted and taken down.

We may need a Riddick.

It is like a baby wearing the same diaper all day, it becomes an ugly mess.

Awesome mate! ROFL😂😂😂😂😂😂

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

;)

Wow. You really know your stuff. Thanks for adding to my post with all this great information. Personally I have no interest in changing Hive or putting one ounce of energy into it to make it a better place. For me it's more of a rescue mission for the average user about what is going on there and offering them information and options (blurt) and then letting them decide what is best.

I went through months of BS with "them" until @frot dropped a note mentioning Blurt to me. Until that moment I didn't even know blurt existed! Then I log on to find basically a free $150 dollars of blurt sitting in my account from the steem fork. Talk about a gift and an off ramp wrapped into one. Blurts been a game changer for me and many others and I think it's just getting started.

So for me there is no point in trying to change that rotten place Hive. Especially knowing what a strangle hold they have on it. It's basically a lost cause and I'd be happy to see it burned to the ground after learning about all the dark entities linked to the power structure there. Heck one of the downvotes I received on this post on Hive was from @thevil.....what the hell kind of name is that? Like The Evil? or something. Then you see their blog. ugggh....then you see @thevil's name right next to top witness @themarkymark's down-vote. uggggg🤮🤮🤮. The people in the power structure there are rotten to the core...you literally couldn't pay me to go back there and start blogging seriously again even if I knew they'd I'd never receive another down-vote. I'm only there to promote Blurt now which is far more rewarding anyway. :)

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Ive had help. It was @antisocialist that first told me about steemit when Minds was just getting started. Another fake platform that stole rewards from ita users. the founders of minds are data mining the content there. If you have an account there, try deleting your content. You will find that up to a point, the ability to delete it stops and no more of your previous content shows. So who is in control there.

Interesting. Never even heard of that one. Glad I missed it!

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Theirs is definitely some kind of cult mind conditioning. Over the years even respected friends of mine have repeated that same thinking ..if we complain about being downvoted we are throwing a hissy fit. They protect their 'investments' of ass kissing and walking on egg shells to keep their little capitalist venture going at the destruction of others. Crazy how money fools most. They are even too bind to see the potential of BLURT over that shit hole Hive. #LetsGrowBlurt

props to @megadrive tho he started this 2 years ago, I didn't even know about it back then and he saw this vision and sat with it till things reached this point and blurt had a market of ppl ready to be willing to give this new vision a go.

I don't know which line of your reply I like most. They are all spot on! Thanks for taking the time and yes! #letsgrowblurt

What I really love tho is that Markey mark is actually paying to promote blurt lol. It's incredible they are so triggered and unable to not react emotionally that they are actually willing to pay people to be exposed to blurt. Last month no one had heard of blurt, now due to their own actions it's being talked about loads and each new person they piss off now knows it exists. Them starting a fake account to take the piss out of you is the same kind of shit these ppl did back In 2017, I can see their maturity level hasn't evolved even a fraction in that time. It's actually quite crazy as if they all sat back and didn't interact hive would probably be really big by now, it's like they self destruct due to a complete lack of being able to hold it together emotionally. Even now they are just promoting blurt for us.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Once again, you are 100% spot on. But that is no suprise coming from the one and only Ultra Violet Mag!

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they are not blind, if they didn't feel threatened by blurt they wouldn't be talking about it and watching it all the time. They know once ppl start joining and the price goes up they have 0 control as its just easy to pop on over to blurt.

it's better on blurt lets go blurt, I think a bunch of us need to brave tik Tok and get it trending there I started an account a few weeks ago and will start trying to get it out there. Thats how doge took off.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I never complained about the downvotes and hurtful words from those people because I know that it is of no use dealing with abusive people and hypocrites and then getting away with it, totally disregarding one of basic rules of forums. @world-travelpro

It is so toxic there and then once in a while you get this bitter jealous psychopath visiting your blog like a virus which I just often ignore rather than to engage so it will go away. If you engage then it will be like a wildfire and then it will summon these evil piranhas from every place.

Now I just kept my peace and not to worry about things beyond my control. Thankfully Blurt came and the fact that hive forked out from steem is a blessing in disguise for me/us. :)

I agree. Blurt is brilliant! No down-vote mean no BS. Mean no nut job with some money can go around financially harassing others. It's just a matter of time before Blurt becomes the dominant of the three chains in my opinion.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

🤬🥓🆔

Keep Complaining!

It's an accurate description of the situation at hand.

HIVE was a mistake... Pure and simple.
✍️😎🤳

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

By happy accident I did very well out of Hive, but having bought, gained, and sold, I won't ever be going back.

So it wasn't a mistake for me, but staying in that toxic environment would be. I think the price will slowly decline from now on as all the real accounts leave and only the cabal and their thousands of fake accounts remain... But even if it keeps going I want nothing to do with it. And exactly the same goes for Steemit, that platform died in 2019.

on a side note this unfollowing thing is rly driving me mad I am now not following you or @world-travel-pro and had to refollow blurt rly does need to fix this.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

So its just randomly unfollowing people? How many? I still havent had that problem

so many I had unfollowed you and world travel pro and tons of others, I refollowed everyone last night and now unfollowing you all again already!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Which browser are you using?

safari, I am pretty basic.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

ive been testing browsers - but just for windows and linux, not mac.

certainly got some different results on some sites

my picks - vivaldi and brave - vivaldi has some really cool features so that is my default

one to avoid - chrome - nasty... chromium is better

i do get the occasional problem with blurt, but they seem to go away with a refresh

I mostly use my iPad

jeez I follow everyone on this post, one person even today, now I am unfollowing all

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

LOL - remind me never to start WW3 with you - between you and lucylin there are enough comments here to launch a military conquest

They always say www3 will just be digital warfare no?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Max igan says it will be no food chain

Possible intuitively I was told to prepare on that but haven’t lol yet

Exactly. But right now I'm having great fun being the village leper! Hive is just one big joke to me at this point. lol

nor frank now either, and it costs to refollow!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

It worked 😎

You're my 69th Follow 🥓

I think I’m not following people I followed but following people I didn’t follow something is really funky with this button

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

It's because we're here for FELLOW SHIP


NOT Following 🤍🫀🖤

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But I dig FunKy 🤬🥓

Congratulations on your $1M Blurt!!!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Champion League Bruv 🤬🥓

Hahaha! Thanks Frank. You rock!

Damn, I enjoy your posts mate!!! 🍔🍵 Sipping on a tea with a bun on top, whilst reading your awesome stuff! Lotsa ❤️ going out to Thailand!

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That’s some weak tea 😂

Earl Grey English style😜

Thank you my friend. So glad you enjoyed and that looks like very nice snack!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Mostly l like to read your posts related to hive cabal..😅😅😅

Haha. They are a lot of fun. I think you are going to like my next one even more. But soon, it will be time to celebrate and move on ;)

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

wow this is a very interesting discussion, I know a lot now after reading this article.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Glad you were able to learn something new here. Make sure to tell all your friends! ;)

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

What event is happening in that picture?

Carnival in Ecuador a few years ago.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

How was Ecuador? I really want to take a vacation trip there to see what is up. Any recommendations?

It's been a while, and don't know what's become of Ecuador since Covid. But I found Vilcabamba "the vally of longevity" so comfortable with a great natural/local small town vibe with a good expat community to be most enjoyable. I stayed there for about 6 months. Which is a long time for me! hahaha

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

What about beaches? Does Vilcabamba have any good ones?
Thank you for the info.

Vilcabamba is nestled in a vally surrounded by the gorgeous andes mountains. It s an hr south of the what I consider the most livable city in Ecuador Cuenca.

As far as beaches, the rough waters of the pacific make a few spots on the coast popular surf destinations. If I remember correctly there is a couple small beach towns that have a nice vibe... but I forgot their names Canoa maybe. You have to do your own research, but the beaches in ecuador are not carribean or thai like at all which I much prerfer.

I would say the safer and more interesting parts of Ecuador is all through the Andes where the Native quichwa people are from. Good wholesome safe culture, compared to latino gang culture of coastal cities like Guayaquil. I spent about 4 months mountain biking the andes from Quito in the north to vilcabamba in the aouth by myself. It was a great adventure. Loved it.

Look up, cuenca, banos, and vilcabama. If you are into mountain climbing, nature, hiking...you d want to stay in the andes or drop down to the eastern side of the andes and have yourself an Amazon jungle adventure. Which is something many do from the fun "waterfall/hotspring" town of Banos.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

That is really incredible. My interest just increased 10 fold. Thank you so much. I will definitely look into ecuador more. I love hiking. I cant do rock climbing, in the past i was able to do a little but never was something i really picked up. But walking up and down mountains I can do. I love hights.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Damn it. I almost seeking for more. I enjoyed reading every bit of this post. When truth is made bare, alot of things get clarified. You've won me over with this writeup. Blurt upholds freeding of expression and indeed it's a unique trademark of blurt. Cheers buddy.

Thank you so much for the complimentary words. I'm glad you enjoy the read and know truth when you see it. I've got a couple more good one's coming out soon. Then it will be time to celebrate and move on. :)

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I can't simply wait for the next ones. Try and post them. You are such a great personality. We shall surely celebrate and move on. Cheers to the future of crypto.

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