Another token is the last thing I would want to see on Blurt.
RE: Appreciator App: What is it and how does it work?
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Appreciator App: What is it and how does it work?
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why? this token can fix all blurt problems without HF. Of course blurt can do HF and change economy to support conten lomger than 7 days, but it means a lot of changes and probably not all people will approve that.
I don't know what Marusz has to say about this but I see it this way: The second token is an additionally blurred market. The depth of the blurt market is not spectacular anyway and to think that an additional second layer token will blur it... Secondly, look at HE how many rubbish tokens you have that used to be worth something and were given away right and wrong and now you can't sell these millions of tokens even for a dollar ;] Whoever was supposed to make money on this, made money. Ultimately, investors make money on such a token because they know how to navigate the markets and the rest is screwed.
I think that around Blurt we need to create one strong currency that has strong foundations and simply try to decentralize the entire economy as much as possible.
I'm not proposing a hundred of shity token but one with a good economy - similar to blurt.
I know and I understand, but apart from that, as you said yourself, it would be much more complicated, which also means that it would be expensive. I made this set of scripts that works as the Appreciator app by tinkering with it for an hour some evenings by few months. It is far from perfect and a lot of work still needs to be put into it. But if I were to estimate the cost of such an implementation, I think you can guess that it would be quite a lot anyway. Now imagine how much it would cost to implement a new token and create the entire infrastructure for it...
The second issue is that even one token could really shake up the economy.
The third is that for an average user who has no experience with e.g. Hive or Steem, the idea of blurt itself is already hard to grasp and complicated enough. Adding more tokens is an additional complication.
The fourth issue is the fact that an additional token will not increase the demand for using blurt, so why bother? wasted workload.. How to focus is on solutions that people would be willing to pay for or that give them a sense of purpose in being here.. For example, appreciator gives purpose to promoting your posts and building a community around your blog. It opens the way to, for example, implementing an advertising center by pinning your posts at the top in FE in exchange for blurt because if you buy yourself a week of hanging an ad, let's say for a start for a number of blurts, a few people will come to you and give you an up for an article that you think is good, then you are sure that it will pay off and at the same time you will attract new readers, which will pay off in the future and help you, for example, build your brand here, sell products, etc.
I'm not saying that current solution is wrong. It sounds like a great workaround without any changes in blockchain. But it still sounds like a workaround before final implementation. I'm not sure if the new token is a good solution. Is easier than HF but needs additional server. HF with infinitive payout time is not big deal because of linear curation reward, but even without that its possible to implement similar way like dtube did.
przejdę na polsk tak bedzei wygodniej ;)
Ja tez byem zwolennikiem takiego rozwiązania zawsze ale w sumie jak sie nad tym zastanowić to ten sposób kuratorki daje większą szansę na wyeliminowanie nadużyć przy jednoczesnym wmiare uczciwym wsparciu i zdecentralizowanj struturze.
Takich programów jak ten może być tysiące, w sensie każdy może sobie zasadniczo cos akiego odpalić na własnych zsadach, przekonać kilka osób do oddelegowania częsci bp i tyle. To mogło by zasadniczo działać również tylko w ramach danej społeczności albo danego tagu gdyby te były juz tak wielkie że np pojawiało by się w nich dziennie tyle wpisów co na blurt.
Z kolei wprowadzenie takiej zmiany z nieograniczonym payoutem dla całej sieci ma swoje ryzyko.. Przykładowo jesli ktos jest wielorybem tworzy kolejne konta, bierze swoje bp i deleguje kolejno dajac upy z każdego nowego. A nawet jak wprowadzimy zabezpieczenie ze jesli konto które juz oddało deleguje gdzie indziej to ta kwota nie bedzei liczona to i tak mozna wymyslic cos w stylu: Przerzucam je sobie między kontami co miesiąc i z każdego nowego konta głosuję na wszystkie swoje wpisy przydzielajac sobie 1000 blurt za kazdym razem na wszystkie wpisy tórych może miec przykładowo 10000 i teraz pytanie jak go powstrzymać? Przecież może tak przez całe życie tworzyć co miesiąc nowe konto potem po 4 tygodniowym powerdownie przelewać wszystko na nowe i znów oddawac głosy. Zdeczka problem nie? Tu akurat to chyba tylko downvoty by były potrzebne zebby go powstrzymać no ale to juz przerabialismy i teo tez tu nie chcemy .
Z kolei przy tym rozwiązaniu każdy głos jest w miarę równy.. można oczywscię uzywac wielu kont do podbijania wpisów i na wczesnym etapie to sie pewnie bedzie zdarzało ale jak bedzeisz miał siec w której np wpis bedzie dostawał po 1000 głosów i w rankingu bedzeisz miał cyfry w stylu 200 upów za 1 miejsce to razej juz bedzie trudno cos takiego przebić. Z reszta nawet jak bedeisz miał 20 kont i raz ci sie uda wbic wpis na góre to drugi raz juz nie chyb z znowu utworzysz 20 kont a to kosztuje i raczej zwrot z upa będzie póki co mniejszy niż cena tych kont ;)
No i aplikacja pozwala na dodanie do czarnej listy kont które np będa regularnie upowane z nowotworzonych masowo kont a nawet jesli ktos w ogóle wpadnie na taki pomysł to wiecej uda pewnie na tworzenie kont zanim cos zyska bo apka nie przydziela jakichs astronomicznych kwot i pewnie tez sami delegujący zaczną sie rzucać jesli by np przydzielała za duże.
No zobaczymy. Obecne rozwiązanie bardzo mi się podoba, szczególnie, że szybko udało się je wdrożyć. A za jakiś czas będziemy wiedzieć czy da się to zrobić lepiej i jakoś usprawnić. Skoro piszesz takie boty to mam pytanie, czy dałoby się to trochę spersonalizować? Mam na myśli, że stworzyłem społeczność Polska i chętnie oddelegowałbym BP z tego konta na takiego bota, który będzie wspierał wpisy w tej społeczności. Treści nie ma aż tyle aby oddać 10 głosów dziennie, ale taki bot mógłby uraczyć wyższą wartością głosów ale nie tak często.
Trochę to brzmi jak zadanie dla innego bota, ale lepszy byłby jeden na którego dałoby się dać delegację i robiłby również to o czym Ty piszesz.
The years that have passed since the appearance of the first cryptocurrencies have shown that the most important factors in the long-term success of currencies are their usability, the ability to hold the price and the depth of the market. If the price of blurt does not even go up, but the depth of the market and resistance to market declines are large, it will gain interest and recognition, which will translate into the development of the network and users.
In turn, the increase in price will translate into the number of people willing to work for the project. For example, if I were able to support myself at least partially from blurt, I would spend more time on it. It would be enough for the witness node to allow you to earn 10 times as much as you do now.
if you introduce a second token before the first one has a reasonable value, you will only slow down the price growth and it will be a shot in the knee because the low price discourages those who want to develop and build something here because it simply means that the time investment that has to be put into even the smallest things can take forever to pay off...
Take even a junior programmer from Poland who works for 50 PLN per hour... to create anything he has to devote, let's say, 5-10 hours, which gives you 250 to 500 PLN... expected return for the effort put in.. now think about the possibilities of earning such amounts on something that you create in 10 hours, on blurt at the current price...
You can do it on your own, but I don't think anyone would be interested in such a solution