I converted my HIVE to BLURT and made this my blockchain home in May. How would things be different if I hadn't been downvoted off Hive?
Current scenario
After putting 10 years into fulltime content creation (starting on YouTube, then Steem, Hive, Bitchute, Odysee, etc) I was targeted by the Hive Downvote Cabal early this year. All my posts and comments were being reduced to $0, and my rep score was being whittled down, which ultimately would have resulted in my content being grayed out and hidden. They promised to continue indefinitely, and had the firepower to do it.
Friends of mine from Hive were joining Blurt in April, right around when this was happening, so I logged in and made some posts. I was encouraged this was a safe place for my content, so I made it my main blog (although I still post a backup to Steem, and sometimes Hive). I converted most of my HIVE to BLURT and powered it up.
Today, I have 470,000 BP (value 1645 USD). A month ago, I calculated my monthly Blurt profits (including posts, comments, curation, interest, and fees) to be about 60 USD. The price of BLURT has fallen in half since then, from 0.0070 to 0.0035 USD each. That means my monthly income and interest on investment is now $30 (at most).
I also have 2000 HIVE, crumbs left over after converting the majority to BLURT. Sadly, those crumbs are worth almost as much as the BLURT itself - $1120.
What coulda been
If I had not been targeted and shut down, I would currently have about 25,000 HIVE (value $14,000). My monthly income would be 500+ HIVE, or $300, ten times what I'm making now. That's how quickly I was earning it before the cabal struck, and indeed, that seems a low estimate considering most of my old Hive peers are making between $50 and $200 on every post.
Summary
Instead of $14,000 USD in tokens and a $300 USD monthly income, I have less than $2800 in tokens and under $30 in monthly income. On top of the overall collapse of the crypto market, I took another 80% cut to my savings and 90% off my income.
Result
I no longer have a nest egg in case life throws me a curveball. For example, the owner of the house I rent just sold it to someone who evicted us so they can live here. There is literally nowhere in this province available to rent (unprecedented 0.0% vacancy rate), which means my wife and babies might be out on the street in the Canadian winter. It would be less scary going into this if I still had my savings, in case we need some funds in a hurry, for example to get a hotel room to temporarily escape the cold weather.
And I no longer have income as a writer, which means I can't afford to spend as much on housing as I would have. $300 ($400 CAD) a month is enough to go from barely paying the bills, to being comfortable with a little cash in pocket.
For me, the attack by the Hive Downvote Cabal couldn't have happened at a worse time. Not only had I FINALLY managed to grind 10 years of fulltime effort into an income, but unbeknownst to me I was headed for eviction into a hopeless rental market. I was this close to being able to pay off a personal debt that handicaps my lifestyle (it prevents me from having a driver's license, passport, or bank account), thereby upgrading my life in a HUGE way. I was also this close from being able to weather a homelessness crisis thrust onto me through no fault of my own.
Unless I get very lucky, I soon will have no way to continue posting at all, because my PC will be boxed up in storage, and I'll be in a shelter. There's simply nowhere to rent. But if I still had those funds saved up, and more constantly rolling in, I'd have options. My blog wouldn't go silent, my activism and truth-telling could go on, at least for now. The work I do, which has been credited with changing and saving lives, would not have to end at this critical moment in history.
It's almost like the Hive Cabal is more than just a bunch of cyber bullies decimating fellow bloggers at random for kicks... The enemies of Liberty and free speech are powerful, and they have influence almost everywhere.
Do I wish I was still on Hive, keeping my head down, having never bought any BLURT, making good money with my content, and reaching a larger audience? Yeah, sometimes I do. But I wasn't really given that choice, was I? The good news is, I'm still alive, there's still a chance I will find somewhere to rent, and I'm not giving up on Blurt. If possible, I will keep on creating content, engaging in discussions, and curating full time. I will keep trying to reach an audience and help others see what's really happening in the world. My thanks and respect go out to other struggling content-creators, and to the curators who support our work.
DRutter
Sometimes it may be too early to compare. I think things will change back before this December
Yes for today, but we don't know what tomorrow brings. $30 today can be $300 tomorrow, the only problem is that urgent needs have to be met until it happens. We know that those who are patient in crypto will win, but patience requires cash flow and meeting urgent needs.
I am really sad to hear about your situation , me and my wife became parents recently and we know how important it is to take care of our baby. A dad has all on his shoulders and being a dad i can feel your pain.
I can just say that i hope things get good for you , stay strong my friend.
I get real headaches after I read this kind of posts from you, I'm really sorry for whats currently happening in your RL man! 😔
Dr... Are You available on Skype?
I have plans that have been set in motion 🤬🥓
I am not. Back in like 2013 I read the Skype user agreement, which pretty much said my PC contents aren't fully my property, and deleted it. I've been kind of lonely ever since because nobody uses MSN anymore! LOL jk... haven't had that one in at least a decade.
Hey, don't look at me that way! I'm not as crazy as I smell...
I tried to leave to but I have an assignment left over from an old tablet version that works like a telephone for me.
I have a STINKY WiFi so I'm not judging 🤬
https://element.io/
Look into Element ☝️
You can find me @frankbacon 🥓
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. Very interesting. Your willpower is exemplary.
I think having relied on crypto as income is a terrible idea right now with things being so shaky unless you have been able to convert a good % of it to multiple other sources to live off of. Best of luck to ya.
I agree fully with your comment @lazerlazer.
Expecting your Future Money to take care of you NOW... well that's like expecting a infant in it's infancy to take care of you as an adult.
I often wonder what people are thinking when it comes to trying to earn there way with crypto. Yes. You can "earn" so to speak but in reality... your eating your seed if you think that way. That's why I don't peg my New Money to the Old Money. For me anyways... this is about freedom, innovation, investing my values, and investing in people with like minds.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts in the comments! ☄️
@wil.metcalfe
Comet Ranker
Yup, crypto is cool and all, but every single penny in it I see as money I don't have. If it all burns to the ground tomorrow, I just gotta find a new hobby to throw $$$ at(model airplanes are cool). Its possible to make a business out of your hobby, but it's not going to be an overnight thing, and it needs to not be niche enough that you'd actually have others who want in.
Your thinking is point on. This could be a hobby... but imagine if it was something more than that? I have always treated my value investing as if I was investing in something that is a multi-million dollar idea. This line of thinking has gotten me this far and so onwards I go!
Additionally... I believe that we are entering the Access Economy... What this means is that we are all going to have a choice... what do we want access to? Personally... I want truly valuable ideas to succeed and flourish. I think that Blurt is an idea worth taking seriously.
And you know what...
Maybe one day Blurt will pay for the model airplanes! As a kid I always wanted to fly those... I almost forgot about that dream I had! You reminded me of how much fun that would be! Do you have any model airplanes @lazerlazer?
No model airplanes just yet. This crypto downturn means I might have quite a few soon though.
Brutal.
Are you on Dtube ? You can post your old YouTube Videos (just copy paste YouTube url) and they get posted to Dtube, Blurt, Hive, Steemit with one click. I earn about 120 Dtube per month with just comments on Videos.
1 Dtube token = .10 USD
I could send you some DTC to get started….
https://d.tube/c/offgridlife88
But it is, as it is... We have to make the best of it my friend...
I know that everyone here absolutely hates Hive and HBD, but if you put a little into HBD savings you could earn 20% APR… with 3,000 HBD I earn $50 usd a month… that helps .
Also never trade all your crypto for another crypto. Keep half and race them… even with Hive and HBD so that you can trade them back and forth when the prices drop.
I even kept 1/2 my Steem and now earn Tron that I can convert to Bitcoin .. or earn an extra 10% APR …. thanks to @justyy (on Blurt and Steemit)
Look, the whole purpose of crypto blogging is to earn crypto. So you can put food on the table and pay the rent. … If people say they do not do this for the crypto they are lying.
I don't do it for the crypto, not lying, I have a job. I do this for fun and to try and edumacate. Those that do it for the money are the ones writing 'nice' posts. Steady earnings and no comeback.
Ok. I guess there are a few.
Many people blog on crypto blogging platforms like Hive, Steemit, Serey, TipMeACoffee, Dtube and Blurt to earn crypto to help buy food and pay rent.
It is interesting though that on Blurt the mostly “not nice” posts filled with drama and angry fighting earn the most Crypto . Day in and day out.
Buckets and buckets of crypto.
It’s hilarious. But I guess it’s good to have options like Blurt compared to the “nice” Main Street Media propaganda of Hive and Steemit.
I think I need to get in on this angry, fighting drama though.
That’s where it’s at on BLurt.
Goes perfectly with the angry man logo. Censored
Have a not nice day !!!! Ha ha ha ha … lol …ha ha
Haha yeh I've always found the places with the heated discussions are always the people magnets. It's true, most people are basically curtain twitchers and rubber neckers and find arguments fascinating. They just don't want to be IN the fight, that's the problem. Trying to watch without drawing attention lol
So true…. The Blurt logo should be … “ThiS is Blurt so @#$&! off…. If you want nice or you are interested in money then go back to Hive.”
No not quite what I had in mind. Grown ups don't fight they discuss. (A bit like ladies don't sweat) hahahahaha.
Well… here on Blurt I see mostly fighting and drama … day in and day out… without end …. Never ending …. It’s hilarious. 🍿 …. Bring popcorn to the BlurtLatam Trending page. I had no idea what I was missing when I had people muted. This place is friggin crazy. I never seen anything like it. Next level madness.
Have a not nice day !
I guess you could say it's entertaining then in that respect.
Oh BTW I saw a video today and thought of you, about enviro officers poisoning the lakes/rivers in the area you were looking at properties.
Think you should see this.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/BOnAbVmABzjD/
Would you still be nice to these guys I wonder?
Then why don't you select between those who fight and those who bring arguments (they don't have to be nice but well founded)? To be able to distinguish between immature babble and solid arguments is not the worst, I think.
The Gawkers and the Yappers.
Have you considered that this might be the case because people are interested in how they want to resolve perceived problems of interaction? You can say drama, but you could also frame it differently and find that conflict is often the best way to gain insights for yourself. Conflict hotspots are known to attract many people, that's true. But they are not to be condemned per se if one manages to overcome one's frustration and does not chafe at the anger of others but finds arguments that go beyond that.
Maybe it's you as well who fights over cryptos?
The more drama, the more comments, the more blurt is burned. If people want to dump their Blurt for zero dollars I am gladly Waiting with my other cryptos to buy it all up. Hopefully 100 million blurt. So let them fight. Let them burn lots of Blurt, let them sell all their blurt for nothing ….. Some of us will get lots of Free Blurt. Ha ha ha ha ha….
What of the hedge?
So drama is something to profit from then, right? Those who are hopeless about the price trend will want to sell their blurt that has gone down in value and those who are hoping for an increase in value will buy. Isn't that the game that is played everywhere? According to this, emotion is a prerequisite, isn't it? If all players kept a cool head, there would be no FOMO, for example. The system feeds on emotion, I would think. Since you as an individual are not always as frustrated and anxious or hopeful and optimistic as everyone else, it seems to me that there is some kind of balance. Except for the moment when no one is interested any more and it could also run to death.
I have noticed that a few Whales promote and encourage FUD to Drop the price so that they can buy more Blurt for cheap. This is how the Global Elite runs the World. It’s the same on Blurt.
So, it's better not to fall for FUD, I think. :)
You know... I've been thinking (since I decided to power down all my Hive) about HBD. The way it operates is like a BOND. It's a promise from the Hive Blockchain (and it's community) to deliver. I of course object to any support of the Hive Blockchain... I insist on voting my values as an investor however... So no... I do not subscribe to the idea of earning future money and using it to purchase now money... no matter how difficult things become. If one compares future money to now money (fiat) they are still plugged into the Slave System with no recourse.
Future Money is an opportunity... a once in a life time opportunity to change the game. It's a chance to innovate new and better ways to human... and to do so in a purely decentralized way. I believe that if we all knew and fully understood the opportunity we have in our hands right now... we would NEVER trade in our Future Money for Now Money.
Back to HBD... This however is tempting. What would happen if every BLURT user (who had been wronged by Hive's dysfunctional social constructs) also became a HBD holder. What it means is that every one on BLURT would own promises to pay income from the Hive Community. This would mean that the Hive community would become indebted to the Blurt Community.
And we all know who gets the best of that situation.
It's a thought to ponder and I would love to hear some feedback about this idea.
@wil.metcalfe
Comet Ranker
That's the idea 🤬🥓👍
Find time for a conversation Wil!
We have a few things to cover ⛏️🗝️
Frank! Yes we do! (And it's long over due now!) Apologies... summers in Canada are PACKED. Winters are when things slow down and become a whole lot more "manageable" (so long as your staying warm! haha!)
Ok. First off. What method would you like to use to chat? I like using Discord for this... But what's your preference?
Skype, 🤬
But you can find me on element @frankbacon
Fullscreen 🥓
I haven't used Skype in a coons age. 🦝 But I think I could refigure that out again.
Here's my handle: beach.ready.fitness
(Yeah I had to look that up! hahaha!)
p.s. What's this "Element" you speak of?
I never really used Discord 🤬
And I've dumped Telegram, Slack and Skype.
I just use Matrix 🥓
Alrighty then! 👍
Matrix it is!
Thank you for the crash course!
I'll work on setting thatUP so we can then chat.
It seems like a hell of a good idea! 💡
Good points.
I’d like to accumulate 100 Million Blurt… so I can use that HBD to buy up all the cheap Blurt on Hive-Engine.
Also I get paid the HBD 20% interest each month. I can use that $50 USD to buy some food or help pay for the kid’s tuition. I guess if HBD goes to zero then I lose that investment. Kind of like what happened with all my Cub.
I love that you are expanding your means and thinking BIG @offgridlife! That's the way I think as well! Your idea for using HBD to maintain the price of BURT on Hive-Engine is a sound one. I think I'm going to start doing this as well. Thank you for the inspiration!
Not just HBD …. I earn all the cryptos, as much as I can everywhere so that I will always have new crypto to buy the big Blurt Dips. This is how I will accumulate 100 Million Blurt.
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An interesting proposition. I wouldn't use it myself as I shook the dust of that place from my feet. I left just enough there powered up to leave one comment at a time on the off chance I would need to say something to someone who had grown to have value to me. I've felt a need to comment there 9 times in the last two years. I rarely ever think of the place other than when someone here brings it up.
I find the best (for myself) is walking away and focusing on better pursuits.
I agree. I'm feeling exactly the same about the place. I will be selling off my HBD tonight in fact.
I think I'll keep 1,000 Hive poweredUP just for comments though. Like you did those 9 times... I have a feeling I might need that as an option. But no more posting there for me.
I do not want to subject myself to Hive's disfunctions... and I certainly won't be bringing my best ideas to that place. I'm focused more and more on Blurt. I think there is tremendous value in focusing over fragmentation. Eye on the prize!
That said...
I think that some of Blurts problems might stem from certain Hive/Blurt dynamics. (Especially while there is an asymmetry in price.) I think it would be wise to think about this from time to time. Keeping both eyes open might be a good idea.
Why don't you speak for yourself? I am not blogging for cryptos but I blog because I like to blog. I am here for a larger readership than I would possibly win if I was running a single website. If money comes with it, I welcome it but it wasn't my initial motivation to start blogging on crypto-related sites.
I blog because theres no censoring me. Lol I'm even more mad than you!
:D lol, you are.
Awesome. It’s good that you don’t blog for money. You are a pure blogger. Very rare these days.
I found these places in Vernon, BC. I’m Not sure if it’s a good area or not.
Maybe the owner would be interested in Rent to own ?
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/24737645/144-6900-tronson-road-vernon-okanagan-landing
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/24791004/54-4137-spallumcheen-drive-spallumcheen-armstrong-spall
Almost everyone feels this way too. But what can we do? I think we should do something that can make the price of blurt rise again. Im a novice in the crypto world but I feel like something can be done. Is it by increasing our engagements here? Is it by inviting more people here?
Maybe if everyone on Blurt started buying Blurt at these low prices then the price of Blurt will start going back up again ?
Collective belief and common ground (rather than conflict) is always how value increases. Anything under $0.01 Blurt prices is a HELL OF A DEAL. That's what I think anyways so I'm continuing to buy. ☄️
I would like to accumulate 100 Million Blurt. So I buy a little every day.
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Life is all about solving problems and learning new and better ways to think. As an individual (or a project even) the bigger problems we are solving the stronger we become and the faster our trajectory. I like that your new but your asking questions and learning. Asking is how we arrive at solutions so the more we encourage this within our ranks the faster we will be innovating solutions... TOGETHER!
I don't know about you but I've always found when I think I'm about to hit rock bottom something turns up. Ask the cosmos. It can't hurt to ask.
In fact …Cosmos is the place to be. If you need money that is.
You got that right... it's all about the signal your tuning into.
As well...
Knowing that "The Resistance" always rears it's ugly head right before your about to score a major goal.
Is sad to see you pass through this scenario but you know what, Sometimes in life , we have to take the bold step of taking decisions . Sometimes it might favor us , sometimes it might not but the important thing is the fact that you are where you feel safe . Blurt might not worth much now but it doesn't mean it won't worth more in future . I believe God never give us what is greater than us . You will somehow get to rent a new house and you do be surprised to see that it is better than the one you were evicted from
Hope things get better for you and will find a suitable place to rent. I guess you wouldn't have made much staying on hive with all the down votes you unfortunately got. Only that if you kept the hive it's worth a lot more at current values.
Reading your story, I feel how hard the struggle you went through. I believe, you are a strong person. Everything will be fine. Keep doing the best.
Man, I really don't understand what is wrong with some Hive whales. They're holding Hive back by nitpicking and targeting creators. It's all about a profit motive for them, in my opinion.
Well it’s pretty obvious they don’t actually want it to grow they want to keep control of it for whatever nefarious reason and I have a few ideas.
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Sometimes they downvote your content without any reason and that down voting is performed by a group because of which an individual person cannot prove himself right there this is one of the bad think about hive and steemit also..
I join this platform today and I used to regularly post my blogs on hive community I am not getting that much on my post but that's okay because I am initial face and it will take some time for me to learn the things
I am feeling really sad for you because the same thing is happen with one of my account which named spydo and at present I use that account in curation trail for promoting the best content with India_united ,OCD,CCH and different type of reputed community and after that also all the blogs which I post from that account is down voted
@drutter
But if a hundred locks shut him up..
Could be that if you make the same calculation 3 months from now or 6 months of now you will be glad also economicwise.
Hive can tumble in half while blurt can jump ×10
I was just thinking this lol :) regret is more to do with the current situation as opposed to the actual actions mostly.
Current situation matters a lot more than hypotheticals.
By the way I ran calculations to see what would have happened if I was still on Hive... you're the one talking about regrets.
Remember if you want hive liquidated you need 13 weeks instead of 4. So its fair to say calculation of current situation should be finalised 3 months from now.
But I do feel your loss. We share the same damage and I hope we will rise.
So true.
Now there's a bright thought. I'm of the same opinion as well.
The downvoting cabal made it miserable, yes it’s a bit of extra money a month but that’s not worth the negative energy, frustration, supression and misery involved in trying to stay under the radar of the thought 👮♀️ . I do trade my last bits of hive tho and done pretty well on selling high buying low as I care about it the least out of anything I hold so it makes it easier to trade than my other tokens which I get too attached to. Try steemit too it’s rly free now the hive cabal left and wox community can give nice upvotes. A few hundred dollars isn’t worth the kind of energy you pick up being on hive unless the bunch at the top moved on elsewhere.
If I was you I would forget about hive altogether. It’s pointless wondering what if, or if you had managed to stay under the thought police radar a bit longer what would have happened, or how much you would have made. Focus on the future and the new things and creating.
YES! That's exactly it Mag. We all chose the red pill for a reason. I will never go back to Hive. My best ideas do not belong there. Neither do I. If I cant endorse Hive to my friends, family, and famous... what am I doing there... and what prospects, honestly, does Hive have when examined under this light. Thank you for speaking out and at the right time. #SpeakUP. 🏆
Feels a bit like telling an assault victim "it's over now, don't think about the past, just try and focus on a happy future"....
Well you have to get like this at some point. I would say the same thing about an abuse victim or the victim of a narcissist. You can live your whole life upset and going on and on about how you met a narcissist or you can think..l hey I’m definitely not going looking to get into the situation again any time soon so I’m going to do some self work and I’m going to move forwards, I’m going to shine and have an amazing life. I’m definitely not saying you didn’t have a bad ride on hive I think a lot of us did I think we’re all in the same situation sure many of us didn’t rely on it solely as a form of income so it didn’t affect us quite as bad but some people it affected worse than others, for example crypto pie relies on it to pay for his life saving medicine I’m sure he was pretty upset when he got pushed off. I mean you can sit and feel sorry for yourself about it for the rest of your life but how is that going to help you and your family? You can however learn from the mistakes of putting too many eggs in one basket and move forwards and find multiple other ways of earning money. YouTube for example and even if you want to be on hive just start a new account with a cartoon picture and post about how amazing hive is every day and how everybody is a total shit if they wanna take their money out you’ll make money there in no time. I’m not trying to be mean I’m just saying it’s your choice you can’t change your circumstances from the past but you can change the circumstances from tomorrow. I’m sorry that you’re in the situation but you can’t change it all you can do is change it going forwards, change tomorrow. Most these down voters are probably narcissists or sociopaths I don’t think they’re going to empathise with you and if anything they’re going to feel even better about it that you’re miserable from their actions. Trying to get some kind of sympathy from a narcissistic sociopath and psychopath is going to be like banging your head against the wall. I mean you could even start a go fund me and maybe this friends and relatives that would like to help you guys just till you get on your feet or maybe somebody can put you guys up on the couch if you put your situation out there you just never know he’s going to step up and help out.
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Why did you go to hive? Why not stick around with steem?
I did
You went to hive, so what are you talking about you did.
I was actually super relieved when they all left for hive because I was like yeah steam is going to be free. It actually was and still is really free and I love it but all the community went to hive so for a bit it was literally only Chinese posts. Bit by bit people are actually coming back to steam and there is a really nice community there it’s definitely very slow but it could pick back up. I never took money out of Steemit and I never left the only reason I even went onto hive is because all of the communities I spent years building move there unfortunately. I wish to God everyone of them stayed on Steemit but a lot of people didn’t see what I saw in those first few weeks until a lot later.
In fact I notice at @ctime is over there. Maybe you would love to curate me on Steemit as well LOL you can’t blame a girl for trying
As long as the cabal is on your side, faggots like you are full of glee to suck ass.
What’s your problem, Sir?
You, and people who spread woo, lies and FUD.
give me an example of a lie
At the moment I don't, because I would lose half of what I earn from curation. Steem still has the old rules - whoever votes first on a post that earns a lot, gets the most from the curation. Let me know if they change these rule to what we have on Blurt
Maybe i should join your curation trail can One do that?
There used to be steemauto, you just need to follow most profitable bots like curx kevinwong and others
I need to be more business savvy I don’t think about it at all just upvote things I like.
awe you're a gem whatever anyone says! :D
In effect you just followed the crowd, you didn't give fuck about the obvious centralized power of @ned that was sold off under the table and used to attack the network and take it over. Can you say faggot.
If you wanna be in hive just join anonymous and post from 5 accounts no one is going to stop you just pick another topic and name. It’s better to be anonymous if your going there anyways its pretty dodgy. If I could go back in time on that site I would have just started 5 pages, chosen a cartoon character for each one and done travel posts or doodles. No one cares about quality posts anyways total shit gets good upvotes if your on there long enough and especially if you roll with the thought police and don’t give them any signs you’ve clocked them.
Do what that slobber chops guy does just walk around an old house a couple of times a week, take a few iPhone pics and post them. Some of them are relatively interesting but it’s easy to do, anonymous and as long as you pretend to be one of the mind controlled you’ll get decent votes and not get downvoted. Just make a few comments every month about how no one should ever power down or they should be nuked to 0 and you’ll be away.
Alas but what flowers and what pricks!
You conveniently left out why you were flagged. Self voting comments at the end of the payout cycle across like 5 different accounts. The most selfish thing you can do with your voting power. Your response was to throw a fit, blame others, and leave for Blurt.
Hive no fun anymore DH? I see you're getting nuked over there... Good for you, you downvoting SOAB!
You conveniently left out, that you are the biggest downvoting POS on all of Hive...
What do you have to say to my account DF?
You and your scum buddies downvoted it to -10 rep because you didn't like, what I have to say, you censoring POS!!!!
My acc that you nuked: https://hive.blog/@networkallstar/posts
Hive is f#*#ed... and you're the reason why... 🖕
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Funny that you mention Marky... That is actually the same exact user that tried targeting my account on Steem back when the "Steem Civil War" was going on. That guy was targeting me for "using the wrong tags" and I confronted him and his friend 'Enforcer' over their harsh treatment of my content.
I ultimately said they deserve what happened to them on Steem and I'm glad to see their Shittoken "STEM" weakened on Hive today.
He is the biggest POS on planet blockchain social media... He nuked me and hundreds of others on Hive... That dumb DH @enforcer48 is part of his scummy downvote crew... I just wrote about him the other day : https://blurt.blog/blurt/@outofthematrix/if-you-go-to-hive-this-will-happen-to-you-sooner-or-later
Are you still on steem?
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Thanks for your upvote @logiczombie! Come to my article about @themarkymark and @steevc and give me a 100% upvote on it! Let it trend! Just for Marky! 😂
To the moon with it! 🌝 https://blurtlatam.com/blurt/@outofthematrix/if-you-go-to-hive-this-will-happen-to-you-sooner-or-later
Trust me they are not the worst and Steve is sadly just brainwashed to follow commands, he’s not a ring leader I think deep down he actually knows the downvoting is bad and that it’s ruining the site and affecting peoples lives on there.
I think some of the most spiteful accounts are some of the ocd troop like acidyo Tarakzp meesterboom smooth azicron
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Always need both sides of the story to put it all together. Tsk tsk tsk
under what moral framework is "self-voting" considered a "crime" ?
Everything is a crime to the hive thought police, although it’s ok for them to do everything they downvote others for doing 🤣 like multiple accounts, shit posts, self voting from multiple accounts, farming. It’s all ok for the thought police just not the minions.
ingroup versus outgroup dynamics
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Why do you think its a crime?
because "self-voting" is often used as some sort of explanation for why someone has been downvoted
Does that mean it's a crime?
is downvoting "punishment" ?
It's curation. It's exactly like a museum choosing to shelf certain exhibits all the way at the back or at the end of their displays: everyone can still enjoy them, they simply must go to those exhibits that precede them first to get to the last.
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It's not about criminality but social norms. Selfvoting is not considered to be a good thing for society as a whole and should be discouraged.
how is "selfvoting" harmful ?
How is it benefiting the community?
all active stakeholders are contributing to "the community"
"The community" is self voting. Bravo!
How? They are contributing only to themselves. Up is down, self is others, truth is fiction.
Opedia almost exclusively self votes and she just gets barely any interaction. You don’t need to downvote just let the community use their votes for what they feel.
Unfortunately those aren't the rules. It's not a upvote only game, if you can't abide by the rules, why should they change for you?
There is no need to down vote people self voting, it tends to weed it self out look at the people exclusively self voting here that don’t do much for the community they don’t get much and it takes I think a few years to even break even by self up voting from your stake.
Exactly. I don't get the folks who have their non stop meltdowns. Just do what I did and power down and leave quietly. The level of expectation folks have is absurd. I can see it if one has a realistic expectation to affect a new direction but mostly we see tantrums with unrealistic expectation. Just move on if you don't like it and let it go.
what are "the rules" ?
Well that’s why I left LOL and came here for less money. If it was one down Vote per person with the same weight that wouldn’t actually be so bad it will just be a different type of community voting, allowing about four people to take away everybody’s money that they don’t like isn’t what that site is supposed to be. It’s actually false advertising because Blockchain social media is supposed to give power to the people and not be controlled by a central body. Most platforms just can’t get it right I think actually these days Steemit is the most free I never see any problems on there anymore LOL
@opidia is very generous and helpful
and has over a million blurt
i see no reason why they shouldn't be able to post whatever they want and vote however they wish
https://blurt.one/blurtmeme/@opidia/very-interesting
I agree, I just said community tends to vote on self voting without a need to downvote, it seems a lot of people don't like excessive self voting as she doesn't get much on her posts outside of her own vote. I am not saying she shouldn't be able to self vote at all, she holds stake and it's her right. I am just saying the community has pretty much voted at this point they do not like it judging by the engagement she gets, or did last time I looked which, admittedly was ages ago now, since she is the only person on blurt I have ever muted.
It's interesting... the topic of self-voting (which on Hive was an excuse to downvote etc. those who picked the low hanging forbidden fruit dangling above their heads).
I think that if it was something that was so taboo... for purposes of user-friendliness (and new users especially) it would be best that the code simply did not allow for it... rather than have a bunch of humans taking it UPon themselves to police and stirUP trouble (like on Hive).
Because the code does make self-voting possible... it shouldn't be considered taboo. However... Is it good for the price of Blurt? No. I don't believe so... as it releases inflation into the system while also opening the door to low value content (SPAM even) being rewarded and highlighted.
Still... the system does allow a self-vote.
But I think there is something being missed when someone self-votes their own content. When you do that you give yourself a little Financial Capital... but I believe it comes with a cost to ones Social Capital and how others perceive you. (big picture vs small picture)
That's why I choose NOT to self-vote (even for ranking my comments for visibility) but rather choose to fall into the arms of the community where value is concerned.
@logiczombie @ultravioletmag @bahh @lazerlazer @opedia @world-travel-pro
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https://wallet.blurt.one/@drutter/transfers
https://wallet.blurt.one/@drutter/transfers
Sweeeeeet! Do you know where I can sell for the "average value of BLURT in US dollars"?
well, apparently not here,
https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/BLURT-BTC/r/54051558
or here,
https://exchange.ionomy.com/en/markets/btc-blurt
still looks like 0.003 dollars per blurt
If your selling I'm buying... but honestly @drutter... I seriously hope your not.
How is the situation? Has things improved (or worsened) any?
https://blurtlatam.com/blurt/@amirl/blurt-seller-has-no-floor
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