The issue not about upvotes, if the foundation leave, I've been told that nothing will work, even the blockchain will have an issue, and we may see bugs and not working frontend. They are who pay the developers to make everything work. And those who are upvoting, I don't know if they have developers who can code the blockchain and take care of it or not. Running all this and make it work is not an easy task. I understand if the other side with big stake have developers, and they will be able to run everything, but I guess they have not. That's the biggest issue, that's why as a blogger you should wish they both stay. And I wished none of this drama happened, and they contacted each other and solved that in private, but since it's already public, I don't know what to say. I just want to explain the situation from my point of view. And as always I could be mistaken, still trying to look at the big picture.
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I have never said I want the foundation to go but I personally I do call for transparency and answers to the questions people have asked and a lot more transparency and involvement from the community about how money is spent. If someone invested in shares all this stuff is public, or at least supposed to be and blockchain is supposed to make it so everything is FAR more transparent, thats the whole point of it.
Yes, there must be more transparency. I saw several witnesses in that shared meeting blaming much of this on lack of transparency.
Yes this rly doesn’t sit well with me that the only project to get funded is one of MD s friends and there is no public listing of this and was opidia paid tons of money for using a photo? I think we need a lot better transparency. I personally don’t mind having a foundation at all as long as it serves its community, I don’t want one that’s self interested, freezes accounts willy nilly, only funds it’s friends proposals and doesn’t even ask what the community thinks, listens to what the community wants or allow outside witnesses into the discord chat. Things are really off here and some things I’ve heard have really disappointed me over the last few days. It just sounds like a draconian rule by MD, that’s really not the point of blockchain, he is supposed to be the one who founded the platform for the people, yet no one gets any say in anything.
Yes, there has been a compounding of many wrongs here. Jacob appears to be back now so some of this might be salvageable. I just stopped my power down I started 8 days ago to see if he can right this ship.
I think EVERYONE would be ok with seeing a developer being paid however to make the platform better and continue to work, I don't mind a foundation but it HAS to be more transparent and fair than just giving huge sums of money to friends for projects that most people here probably don't think are useful at all, like paying for images etc when you can get them for a big upvote or an open competition or even.a stock site for a few $, if they really are paying huge sums for friends just provide one of their existing images thats pretty shocking to me. I think EVERYONE would actually agree to paying developers even more than they are doing and bringing on new ones. I want to trust these people but I am waning.
I also know that developing is really expensive. And also I heard that graphene blockchain developers are not that many in the world. It's kind of hard to code or something. About transparency, I guess even in steem and hive, we can't know for sure how much those developers are paid. I don't know the reason behind that, but maybe they all prefer people to not know about that. I don't know. After 5 years on all these blockchain I understand now many things and still learning.
the developers and core team is one thing but friends being given money to make shoes and possibly just let their images be used for huge sums of money when they don't have the money to pay for needed developers or marketing is really off to me and I would love to see a list of where all the money has been given and to what projects so it\s not just hearsay but we can see for ourselves, even share holders get this right and blockchain is supposed to be more transparent, thats the whole point of it. I personally would like to see the community be able to make decisions on what money is spent where and see people in the community working hard given a helping hand to grow their projects outside of the money holders friends.
Do we have such transparency in steem or any other blockchain you know ?
To a point yes on steemit and hive proposals are at least publicly voted on and blurt is supposed to be an improvement. Right now it seems it’s just one person giving out money to ppl he chooses.
I don't mean proposals. They are usually funded and voted only if big stake vote on them. I mean how much developers are paid, how much they spend on frontends, servers and many other things they do.
I didn’t ask for that tho nor did anyone they are asking how much people are getting funded for proposals / users images being bought at huge prices and various other things. Haven’t seen anyone questioning development costs at all. Even hive and steemit have proposals that at least have the appearance of getting somewhat voted on by the community, even tho we know stake makes it unfair they could do a numbers based thing. Anything is better than just the site founder handing out money to some of his friends and no one knowing about It.
That's an issue, because if some people are complaining about some payment, if we will understand how much is going for developers, frontends, servers and maybe other costs, we will understand how much was left. And if the cost of all the needs is high enough, so we will understand that the money is not that big [I mean what left for those who had that money].
Also, we should understand the cost of needs of blockchain in case the other side win, that means they will hire new developers, they will need to pay them, maybe use other servers, create other frontends... etc.
The question in this case will be, will the cost of all those needs be higher or not ? In case the cost will be higher, so we will have another danger in the future, in case lower, I don't know. I hope I explained this well. I look at the big picture.
I think the best way to fund projects is crowdfunding. Where people donate to good projects.
The issues from my understanding is that not many programmers can program is C language which is what is used on the chain. So the ones who can are used to being paid more than normal programmers and sadly to my understanding the few programmers we have are not getting anywhere close to market rates as it is.
That's why @ultravioletmag many programmers left before. They preferred to work in other spaces for better money. But those who are staying are working here for the idea mostly, not for big money. Because trust me with their skills they can make much more of money ! But they are staying and that's a big respect.
When have I ever said anything about paying programmers though? I agree with that it’s necessary core work. Making blurt shoes and providing and imagine no one liked anyways isn’t necessary and things like that should be up for community vote not just done behind closed doors. I don’t know why we keep talking about developers when I’ve never seen in person question paying them
Because it's all related. If the foundation leave, that means a lot of developers will leave with them. But the other part are not providing any developers. How you imagine a totally decentralized blockchain with no developers and nobody working on it. I still don't know if they have developers to replace those who will leave, but from what I know I didn't find anyone talking about that. I also don't understand why no one is talking about that.
@ericet was also a developer here. I guess he left because he preferred to work on something else. And I understand him. You can see the tool he worked on, I think that's one of the explorers : https://ericet.github.io/blurtexplorer/#/ I guess still working because the foundation are the one who are paying, and working on it. I'm not sure about this. But it seems that they are handling a lot of operations on the blockchain, and without them the blockchain will not work, we will need other developers who will handle that. Look at their activity here : https://gitlab.com/groups/blurt/-/activity
I don’t understand your Argument because I never said about not having a foundation I said that I want a foundation that is transparent honest and works for its community otherwise it might as well leave I just hope for the best because any investment is screwed anyway if they continue to act this way and not be transparent, throw money at their mates projects, block witnesses from the discord, freeze accounts they don’t like and not involve the community in any decisions.
Transparency includes payments for developers, for frontends, for servers where all the images are stored. That's why when you say ''transparent'' I understand that like payments for everything including developers.
I was told blurt was going to move over to a more popular language at some point
There has been some indecision on this, and it appears that they are instead focusing on developing some other projects and airdropping them to the community. We already had one (dig) and supposedly are going to get another for Gamestate.
personally I think they need to make some big changes if they want peoples support. I am sure there are two sides to every story and I am not taking sides because I am not informed enough but I do want to see a summary of what has been given funds from the foundation. So far all I have seen is money being thrown at people in a small group and no actual people working really hard being able to get anything to help projects that are really helping blurt. I don't see much transparency and blockchain is supposed to be all about transparency. I bet no one knew till today that someone had gotten nearly 1000$ to make shoes for example and god knows what else has been funded.
This.
https://blurt.blog/blurt/@practicalthought/rdsynl