Recently I had the unfortunate task of removing @fervi's private witness channel role for the second time, pending review and internal voting from the rest of the witnesses without consent. Please note @fervi still has access to public areas of Discord and to the public witness channel for updates.
It is noted that he previously had the private witness role removed for breaching internal communication security by screenshotting internal posts of mine and other witnesses. some of which would have de-escalated internally and would not have had the need to create FUD (for lack of a better word) to the rest of the community and create community-wide unrest.
After a similar internal vote witnesses agreed to re-instate his role, this time however the results were at the time of writing 18/1 in favour of not re-instating the role a second time. The reason for the post is that @fervi wanted me to disclose who the witnesses were that voted, I said I could not do this, but instead would publish the results and ask witnesses who witnessed the poll results to attest in comment on this post, whether the results are true and correct. By doing this they are not disclosing their vote preference unless they wish, but just attesting the authenticity of results.
To placate @fervi I have taken the time to write this post, witnesses took the time to deliberate and vote and some even commented on his Blurt post and asked some pertinent questions.
Sequence of Events
-@fervi requested that Blurt Core add his account creation app to the official signup landing page.
-We requested the source code or to open source, but instead of complying and producing the code, the reply we received was that the front end can be audited and the code wasn't necessary to be open sourced.
-I took this info to @saboin and @tekraze to check the frontend code and confirm if safe.
-Before they even had time to investigate, @fervi had already gone public to declare his dissatisfaction that his app wasn't being listed
-The concerns we had were the following:
A) Storage of keys (on backend and email server when sending)
B) Retention of user emails related to created accounts and the potential use thereof for doxxing purposes and/or phishing and illicit marketing.
C) Recovery account risk
D) Leak risk of private keys and emails, especially given previous willful leak incidents.
E) @fervi's association with ctime who has been at odds with Blurt Core and the potential of a trojan horse app to discredit Blurt Core for endorsing it.
-In the meantime @fervi went ahead and posted a sensational post on Hive and Blurt:
https://hive.blog/blurt/@fervi/fud-from-megadrive-how-do-you-fool-people
https://hive.blog/blurt/@fervi/fud-from-megadrive-how-do-you-fool-people
In this post @fervi accused the foundation (without proof) that it was receiving back-handed income from Symbionts from their account creation app, sensationalised the Paypal payment processor used by Symbionts to be a risk of stealing funds from user accounts, and created general FUD against Blurt Core and my person, as well as inciting war and unrest, with statements and titles like "War between the community and the Blurt Foundation" and "Let's create the real "FUD"".
-The fact that this was posted on Hive seems to serve the purpose to recruit haters of Blurt and myself to further destabilize Blurt and is conduct not suited to top 20 witnesses who should be promoting Blurt and not destabilising it. Fortunately, @fervi's reputation (10) on Hive is low and didn't get much support.
-At this point I made a poll internally to have his private witness role remain removed and informed @fervi.
-Some witnesses gathered more info and commented, example:
https://blurt.blog/@nalexadre/riuuto
-https://blurt.blog/@nalexadre/rivnp6
In these comments @nalexadre indicates that @fervi did not approach Blurt Core with positive and accommodating communication, but rather than producing the code put up a roadblock saying Blurt Core should audit the front end, @fervi after the fact did release the code eventually and @nalexadre did find some risks, here are key points from @nalexadre's comments:
If the goal is just to send the keys by email (which I don't really recommend) so that the person creating the account doesn't see them, I personally would not have done it this way. I would have rather made a second page where the beneficiary of this new account can change his keys, allowing me to stay only on the communication with the blockchain without the need for a backend
I saw that IP and emails are hashed and stored in a database to check the abusive use of the service, you could even add the mobile phone number it would remain easily bypassable (so easy to find an email or SMS number ephemeral on the web). Protecting against abuse of the service is very hard and time-consuming but you're right to try, it's the best way to learn.
I have a hard time understanding the problem that there was about making the project open-source via a git repo from the beginning and understand perfectly well that a reply asking the interlocutor to go and see the source code of the page could be seen as extremely unprofessional and a suspect reaction personally I would have had the same.
-After internal discussion I informed @fervi of the vote results, to which he asked for the names of the witnesses who voted 18/1, I indicated this would be a breach of privacy and would rather post the results and request witnesses to verify in comment, this again shows @fervi does not respect privacy and as such should not have an app endorsed that puts him in a custody position of private keys and emails.
-Before I could write this post @fervi had already posted my screenshot on both Hive and Blurt without my consent which I indicated I would post and he again seems to be fixated on witness names instead of accepting the outcome of the vote. https://hive.blog/blurt/@fervi/oops, https://blurt.blog/blurt/@fervi/oops.
My message in Discord DM to Fervi today:
after much deliberation witnesses have voted on your reinstatement, these are the results:
You will still have access to public areas of Discord and to the Public witness channel so you get all updates and notices
For my part I didn't live the background of this story leading to this decision, even if I studied the case, recognize that the behavior that @fervi has had in public several times is a serious fault as a witness as well as the lack of confidentiality involved in accessing the private channel of witnesses via leaks, and had an interesting discussion with him yesterday, I preferred to abstain from voting.
Everyone voted according to their own conscience and I recognize the result of this 18/1 vote as the correct official result and I respect it.
My door is not closed and I would be happy to exchange about dev, tech, etc... on the dev channel of the Blurt discord with you and/or in comments in your future posts.
As I wrote yesterday you don't have to fight with the Blurt Foundation, Instead, fight to show your abilities with the dev of autonomous tools that will benefit the community, it's more constructive. A lot of interesting dev can be made on Blurt without the need of anyone.
Due to your high-ranked position in the top 20, I hope to see impeccable behavior from you in the future as a representative of a part of the Blurt community. It's possible to be in total disagreement with people while keeping an audible and professional speech.
Being a witness of the top 20 is not only a title and reward, it's also duties and a great responsibility due to a position as an ambassador of Blurt.
And when it does not go well and you want your message to be audible do not do it in the moment, let it rest to have a clear, consistent, respectful, and professional speech if you want to be considered as such, remember credibility is the key to success.
Regards,
@nalexadre
Sure, but as a witness you depend on the Blurt Foundation. And BF, despite Megadrive's assumption that it would be disbanded over time, is going the opposite way and further cementing the project.
You can say - This BlurtCreator is cool, but it's a new project, it will be added in time. Except it's not - the project is a couple of months old and has been submitted a couple of times to be added to Blurt's DApps and has always been rejected on any pretext. Just like other projects.
Do you think why Megadrive created its post FUD? So that people would be afraid to create accounts for free and pay him. I don't know if you know (you probably do), but it is possible to create accounts for free on Discord, but there is no information about it available anywhere and if you don't know about it - you will be forced to pay.
Business as usual
Do you mean to be in the top 20? If you have read my post from a few days ago you could read that I talk about 10,000 onboarded people with 1,000 Blurt Power ($5.811 at today's price).
This is a picture representing for me the long-term goal, hundreds of thousands of small wallets rather than a few big investors, because there is nothing stronger than to be recognized by a community rather than an individual, just 100,000 people (10% of the monthly unique visitor of Peakd) with 1,000 BP it's 100,000,000, BLURT it mean enough to make a great decentralization ;)
If you want to prove them they're wrong, fork the Condenser, make it better than any that already exists with exceptional SEO, don't let anyone tell you how to do it by offering to fund you (stay free of influence), and put your tool on it.
I have a hard time understanding why on Blurt everyone focuses on the official site for anything and everything, your account is old enough to have known eSteem, Busy, SteemPeak, Appics then Peakd, Ecency, Leofinance, Liketu (and I won't mention them all) none of them needed the official site to exist.
Yes, I know, never use it so I don't really know the full process (I prefer to create the key myself and make directly the transaction with the blockchain itself).
As already said @megadrive had the position he was asked to have in view of his responsibilities and the information he had in his possession at the time of the facts from what I have learned from my study of this case. There were clearly communication problems between you that should never have existed at the level of professionalism and rules to respect in the process that such a request engenders (I won't go back over everything I already said, just the open-source repo is for me a sufficient reason for a refusal). Communication is something fragile, breaking it is easy, and repairing it is long and tedious.
I sincerely hope that in a few months this story will be behind us, that you will have beautiful things that you have developed to show us, and that you will feel fulfilled on Blurt
Well said. Really, there needs to be a new front end just for Fervi and company....and I'd be rooting for it big time! I like these guys ideas. Basically I side almost always with @ctime and MK, lucylin too for that matter in regards to ideas and direction of the platform....but the avenue they've taken to get their ideas implemented has been incredibly counter productive in general.
There are times when working with people is much more complicated and difficult than quantum physics or frontier physics.
There is always the risk of encountering stubborn haters. But I must say that in general the Burt community that I know is very nice, and the interactions have been within the framework of respect.
Very good to hear. I totally agree.
I can confirm that the results were 18:1. I just checked a few seconds ago and it is still the same.
I too can confirm the poll. It took place and the votes are as they are!
For the records: I personally did NOT take part in the vote!
Nevertheless, I do NOT understand, neither @fervi's nor @ctime's behaviour!?!?! Do you guys really think, that this is getting you anywhere?!?!?!
Start being more diplomatic and have a bit more patience, then things might start to change around here for you!!!!
Well said....
I very much lean my perspectives and decision making from an investor/pro business perspective. If I was so heavily invested I would be tripping over my own feet to work things out so we can facilitate a better price for everyone.
That's why you're my favorite co-witness my BFAM 🏆🙏
@king1234: Thx 4 your support! 🙏🍀🌞
I can confirm that 18 witnesses voted and we had discussion about it.
I can confirm the result of the result of the poll.
Can confirm. Best image I can provide, this comment operation itself is also signed with the valid posting key of this account.
Los witness realizaron un consenso para aprobar
I am happy and so much admire the fact that you often handle such issues with such maturity; You are simply a leader. @fervi might just need to respect the witness' decision and be ready to take responsibility for his actions. People should follow the laid out guidlines and allow peace reign. You can be sure that there is no smooth road to success and for Blurt to succeed we all will have to see this kind of behaviours which I consider as attacks on the Blurt. Keep doing your best.
I was also talking to a friend from Rwanda and I asked him to consider joining Blurt and even recruit people into it. I am waiting for his response which I will also communicate to you. We need to promote blurt to the widest possible audience around the Globe, that might help.
That shows our witnesses are pretty much active .
Yeah 19 votes, not bad.
Hey, how you doing?
What's new with you? We haven't talked for a long time.)
Have a good mood.
Hi, thanks for the message. i'm well and hope things are good with you?I Have been actively testing the Blurt mobile app, your reply actually highlighted to me that the app needs notifications of unread replied cause I only saw this 2 days later, so thank you.
if you have a chance check https:://pwa.blurt.blog check out the surprise animation when you vote a post, it's so satisfying! :)
There is also a chat function in the app menu, the only thing that doesn’t work is posting and commenting, but those should be fixed this week.
keep safe!
Show the source code of joinblurt and ecosynthesizer. How is it possible that you approve the 1.5 M BLURT value proposal without asking for the code? Because they are your colleagues? On the other hand you ban witnesses from the chat room just because they ask questions?
Look at the openblurt repo on gitlab you will find it, not banned for asking questions, banned for creating external FUD and inciting war (including on Hive), gross misconduct, read my post properly
Well in the first place it is not right that they take away the opportunity of a person to continue in the discord channel of the witnesses, because they removed him, because he got angry, for having a different opinion, really, everyone is supposed to work together and we all have different ways of thinking, you can't always agree with someone's opinion. At last it is a community and we want to develop the platform and not fight, because he is not given the opportunity to see his work, he is proposing a tool to create free accounts and without so many complications for new users in Blurt, I think that instead of be discussing should support it and organize the best tools and developers to bring new features to Blurt. If they don't, when are we going to move forward, when are they going to give other people the opportunity to achieve something important on the platform. In my thoughts it is not good, and they should give it a chance or as many as necessary. Well I hope you can solve your problems, but do it for the good of the community and not just for a few, do it for everyone.
I am in neutral because I understand it, a year ago I wanted to put a witness for Blurt, I asked for help and nobody helped me to configure it, but we are supposed to be a community.
I hope they solve the problems for the good of the community and that it is no longer divided. Add more exchanges.
Well at least, I hope they see my project with good eyes @team-mexico, and from time to time help is needed. Greetings, nice night.
Bueno en primer lugar no está bien que le quiten la oportunidad a una persona de seguir en el canal de discord de los testigos, porque lo sacaron , porque se enojo, por tener una opinión diferente, de verdad, se supone que todos trabajan en conjunto y todos tenemos diferentes formas de pensar, no siempre puedes estar de acuerdo con la opinión de alguien. Al fin es una comunidad y queremos desarrollar la plataforma y no pelear, porque no se le da la oportunidad de ver su trabajo, el esta proponiendo una herramienta para crear cuentas gratuitas y sin tantas complicaciones para usuarios nuevos en Blurt, pienso que en vez de estar discutiendo deberian de apoyarlo y organizar las mejores herramientas y desarrolladores para traer nuevas características a Blurt. Si no lo hacen, cuando vamos avanzar, cuando le van a dar a otras personas la oportunidad de lograr algo importante en la plataforma.
En mi pensamiento no esta bien, y deberian darle una oportunidad o las que sean necesarias. Bueno espero que puedan solucionar sus problemas, pero haganlo por el bien de la comunidad y no solo por unos cuantos, háganlo por todos.
Yo estoy en neutral porque lo entiendo, hace un año quise poner un testigo para Blurt, pedi ayuda y nadie me ayudo a configurarlo, pero se supone que somos una comunidad.
Espero solucionen los problemas por el bien de la comunidad y que ya no se divida mas. Sumen mas intercambios.
Bueno al menos espero que vean con buenos ojos mi proyecto @team-mexico, y de vez en cuando se necesita ayuda. Saludos, linda noche.
Blurt to the mooon. 🔥🤬🦾🚀
See my comment above. We were all trying to workout a process to get it approved...but this dev decided to go on the attack before we even had the chance. It's hard to work with people when they don't even give you a chance.
Sir, you are great. Your work and the blurt you develop so neatly and beautifully is admirable and very effective. I joined this blurt platform a few days ago and the people here are very nice and within a few days I have gained everyone's love and respect. Thanks to the blurt platform and I must say that in general the burt community I know is very nice, and the interactions were within the framework of respect.
I'm a beginner, I also don't understand what happened
The blog and rewards continue as normal, nothing to worry about there, it's just an internal governance disagreement, don't need to worry too much about it. Basically one of the top witnesses decided to make a defamatory post rather than discussing matters amicably, so we had to remove his Discord private chat role, that's all really.
This is a ... True ❤️... I always respect you and your team member thank you so much for handling this situation.
Sure, but as a witness you depend on the Blurt Foundation. And BF, despite Megadrive's assumption that it would be disbanded over time, is going the opposite way and further cementing the project.
You can say - This BlurtCreator is cool, but it's a new project, it will be added in time. Except it's not - the project is a couple of months old and has been submitted a couple of times to be added to Blurt's DApps and has always been rejected on any pretext. Just like other projects.
Do you think why Megadrive created its post FUD? So that people would be afraid to create accounts for free and pay him. I don't know if you know (you probably do), but it is possible to create accounts for free on Discord, but there is no information about it available anywhere and if you don't know about it - you will be forced to pay.
Business as usual.
To clarify Blurt Core does not earn anything from the account creation apps. They are run by the @symbionts team, I don’t expect it is highly profitable, if you pay in Blurt you get the account at near cost, paypal also has processing fees which probably eat up half of the $3 price. Blurt Core is also working on a mobile app which will have free account creation.
The Discord free account method is not published anywhere because we are constantly fending off social attacks and as I have said many times it has set us back on so many things we could have done like post about the Discord account creation, as an example this fervi matter has consumed everyone’s time for three days now, no other productivity happended.
The fact is fervi’s conduct was extremely poor and not fitting for a person in a position of trust (a view supported by 18 witnesses), his association with ctime who continually makes power moves and snubs diplomacy is further problematic from a motive perspective. Sadly fervi will never be trusted by Blurt Core for app endorsement.
My vote for
"X"
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It's mean no
I'm just curious why you decided to vote no with this one? Your the only one who voted no so that's why I've got to wonder @nabeeel. 🙏
Result was 18/1 did you see
I'm in 18 :)
Then wouldn't that be a Yes?
Your so genius. That's why you are founder of Blurt. And blurt platform is awesome..
I love this platform
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