RE: Commandant or Follower?

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Commandant or Follower?

in psychology •  3 years ago 

That was my impression - read only half the book so far.
A creation, not a self-manifestation.

The book is also surrounded by fog - those who call it a lame apologia, others who stress that it was written under orders from the British after being condemned etc etc. So not a "pure" document, but still interesting IMO.

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After I read your post, I came across this article on Global Research:

An Upbringing According to Strict Religious and Military Principles – And the Reflex of Absolute Spiritual Obedience: The Example of Auschwitz Commander Rudolf Höß

This lead me to conclude that within the model of the 7 Life Energies, Rudolf was an Adaptive Assertive; an efficient follower.

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Great find, thanks!
That was my impression - I was a bit tentative, but you can see my focus on him being a fervent believer. Doesn't seem to matter what the belief is, just that the mind needs to believe, to keep itself from disintegrating - which would possibly be better, as one could then experience a deeper truth.

The mind recoils from deep transcendence as it perceives it as a destruction of self - sadly, it cannot conceive the phoenix rising after being destroyed. The phoenix is also the self, but with more insights and power.

I have always disliked the new age stuff about "destroying the ego", coz that doesn't seem like a great idea, but it happens as a temporary metastate on the way to a "transformed self".

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Those 3 articles are very recent - did the author read my post!?

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lol. you wish! ;-)

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The adult human being is often inhibited in his ego development, but is in bondage to the priests and suggestible. If the believing adult thinks he can reconcile his religious convictions with his “common sense”, he is mistaken. What he understands by “common sense” is nothing more than a hardened mass of dead metaphysics.

Exactly!

Although I must add the qualifier "most adult humans". Not all.
I disliked priests as a child - I also disliked their beliefs.

And I will further add that the reason is because Dynamic Assertives have an innate distrust of any authority, religious or otherwise! And it would have been the Dynamic Assertives during those times that would have either sought to escape the situation, or found themselves in prison or dead.

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You calling me a Dynamic Assertive!? lol.
Wouldn't some of the DAs be at the very top?
Seems like too few categories, unless u allow them to be parameters rather than categories.
The term "asynchronous development" tends to be used for children, but I suspect most adults are stuck in whatever set of parameters they develop. The asynchrony there is not age related but a relative one across each parameter.

You calling me a Dynamic Assertive!? lol.

What a bad habit I have! 🙈 For years, I have known that Dynamic Assertives don't like to be boxed into categories, but I can't help it when it's so obvious. If there were a blood test to determine if you are a Dynamic Assertive, I would bet on it! 😉

Dynamic Assertives are very introspective souls, and so have a very strong sense of self-awareness and self-definition. And because they are so unpredictable, the idea that they can be placed in a category gives the impression that they are predictable, something they don't like.

Wouldn't some of the DAs be at the very top?

Oh yes!!! Ralph Nader, Barack Obama, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela... Dynamic Assertives are the closest you get to the Dynamic Aggressives, so they have a great deal of potential to become popular and/or powerful. Lots of charismatic actors as well, like Tom Cruise or Denzel Washington. There are dark examples as well; and there are many Dynamic Assertives who live ordinary unpopular lives.

Seems like too few categories, unless u allow them to be parameters rather than categories.

I would say 7 categories with parameters that go from the high-side to the low-side of the particular Life Energy. The author uses the term Types. Yes, it may seem they are few, but there are two levels here, the personal and the societal. I am a Dynamic Assertive, and hence live the life of a Dynamic Assertive on a personal level. But Dynamic Assertives are also a group within society that serve a particular function for that society. It's really a very simple but profound model.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

urgh, I wouldn't share a sandwich with any of the names you mentioned!
I would be careful in assuming the facade of the famous are real.

But yeah, I get the point!
That means 1% v 1% with 98% pawns ?

I do wonder if the middle type, the Creatives, are better named as Adaptives.

Mind you, as you said, many DynAsses will leave the game - fuck that syndrome. lol

Much to read this weekend, so lemme logoff ;-)

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Finally got round to listening to your video on this - not the 7 or 8 episode one, the 2-parter on YT. Thnks!

That's great! I really hope it inspired you to dip into the book. From what I gather, you are a fast reader, and this is really a small, easy-to-read, non-technical book.

🤣 I don't know, but it did seem like an interesting coincidence. Had I not read your post, I would have skipped that article. 😊

That was my impression - I was a bit tentative, but you can see my focus on him being a fervent believer. Doesn't seem to matter what the belief is, just that the mind needs to believe, to keep itself from disintegrating - which would possibly be better, as one could then experience a deeper truth.

You describe the condition (for lack of a better word) of the Adaptive Assertive and the Adaptive Supportive very well. They have a deep and innate need to believe in the authority figures that they choose as their leaders. They feel themselves to be an extension of their leaders, and hence what the authority says, must go. In their mindset, "If my leader is wrong, then I am wrong. So it is best that I see my leader as right, so that I can then feel to be in the right as well." But I do not believe disintegrating helps them reach a deeper truth. Only a substitute authority can really help these people, and society in general.

I have always disliked the new age stuff about "destroying the ego", coz that doesn't seem like a great idea, but it happens as a temporary metastate on the way to a "transformed self".

After experiencing the Natural Life Energy model, back in the summer of 2000, I was catapulted into a world that I knew nothing about. I was thoroughly convinced that these Energies were real, as I first had confirmation with myself, and then began interviewing other people, and studying biographies and films and lots of documentaries on historical figures. But on the other side of the coin, the idea of energies lead me down the New Age rabbit hole, which was fine in the beginning for a neophyte. I later heard that the CIA was involved in the creation of this New Age movement, but never confirmed it. But I grew really tired of all the airy-fairy, hocus-pocus, woo woo of all the love and light, and positive thinking. Then I went from the esoteric rabbit hole into the exoteric one. Now I'm beyond that phase as well, but learned a lot of interesting things from both of those worlds.