Psychedelic Drugs and Depression

in psychology •  2 years ago 

Consciousness, Chaos and Order | Dr. Robin Carhart-Harris

Something important that Carhart-Harris mentions (and the end of the functional depression section), that Peterson doesn't really follow, is that depression need not be a maladaptation; that it may be a perfectly valid response to retreat from the world, for whatever reason. This current culture, certainly in the Westernised societies, has removed any real sanctuaries that do not, at the same time, pathologise the reasons for being there. Hence we end up with psychiatric hospitals instead of temples and monasteries - prisons instead of sanctuaries - drugs of entrapment rather than for transcendence.

I think Peterson talks too much in this interview. This might be more fun: The paradoxical psychological effects of lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD).

[...] the apparent paradox by which the same compound can be both a model of, and yet a treatment for, psychopathology has never been properly addressed.

I suspect the paradox lies in the definition of psychosis. Indeed, in the conclusion of the paper, the authors feel the need to split the categories of psychosis into positive and negative. As far as I can see, such "positive psychotic" traits are the same as... creativity!

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Yes, some of us ride the depression 'roller-coaster' daily... more emphasis in the West should be on mental balance and enrichment... but I won't hold my breath

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The DSM is the manual of psycho-bullshit. So when a scientist actually investigates, he finds the categories ARE bullshit.

positive psychosis being a perfect example of playing with a turd instead of abandoning the whole nomenclature.

Some states of mind come close to personality breakdowns - the Tibetans teach to be careful, to practice, to be detached, to experience your core - all so that one can experience such distortions without being taken over by them.

Believe nothing... and that includes one's own mind.
Not a rejection - just a kind of orbit.

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I find Dabrowski's theory of positive disintegration really helpful if someone is depressed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_disintegration
I came to it from perhaps a strange route - the attempt to define giftedness in neurological terms.

NOT surprising that both the Nazis and Soviets hated him - he also knew and collaborated with Lobaczewski in what became Political Ponerology.

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