The problem is that you have nothing to vote for. In order to vote, there has to be someone to vote for. The problem is that real, sensible candidates are often not even allowed to be voted for. So the question is how to vote for someone you know is a bad choice and at the same time you know that there are no good choices? In order to have a clear conscience, some people refuse to vote in the hope that the low turnout will generate some real resistance and make the situation urgent.
For example, if only 10% of the population votes in the election, the results will only represent this small part of the population, which can lead to questions about the legitimacy of the elected representatives and their mandate to govern.
This is a basis for invalidating the election, and in such a situation, society can feel how many people disagree with the current policy and this can encourage people to greater opposition and rebellion against the current puppets in power.
For example, if only 10% of the population votes in the election, the results will only represent this small part of the population, which can lead to questions about the legitimacy of the elected representatives and their mandate to govern.
no matter how many people take part in the elections, they will always say that they have the legitimacy to rule the rest of us
They do, but we don't necessarily :). It's a bit like with covid. In Poland, for example, there was quite a large percentage of people who said it was a hoax and that translated into others also feeling emboldened to counteract.
Simply put, 90% of people are afraid to stick their noses out until they see that they are the majority. If it came to a situation where only 20% of people voted for the government in the elections, there could be a coup, and the currently elected government would certainly be walking on thin ice because people would be aware that no one voted for this government and that practically everyone around them agrees with them. So they would look the government in the eye and chant for its overthrow. On the other hand, if you have a turnout like the one in Poland recently, 74%, people say:
The people have chosen, what can I do? Besides, since you are aware that 74% of people voted and from this you know that 60% voted for POPIS, then you can be sure that every second of your neighbors not only will not support your activities against the current government but can also kick your ass.
Do grasp that to "vote" You have to register. Any time You register anything, You are giving it to the state – to do with and to it as the state sees fit – in exchange for a privilege. In the case of registering to vote, You are giving Your sovereignty, Your Self, to the state – to do with and to You as it sees fit – in exchange for the privilege of wasting time in a booth.
All the controlminds (governments) on the planet are for-profit corporations, and appoint Their officers. "Elections" are held to maintain the illusion We have a say.
We might want to co-create better than what the psychopaths in control are creating for Us.
Still not one person yet with this belief tho has answered me as to how ppl simply not voting would change anything other than for the worse? Can you explain pls I am listening of how things will go when the majority of ppl stop voting?
In Uk we had lowest vote turnout ever in recorded history because of this and we just ended up with the worst government we have ever had in my lifetime and agendas speeding up like crazy with no one to block them. So I’m not seeing some radical shift from not voting.
I think about the best chance is ppl standing up and constantly pushing back/ voting in a smaller party.
Voting or not voting alone makes no difference - like I said, THEY choose who does what in Their corporations. Voting just gives Them a lot of power over You through the registration. You could have had everyOne turn out and They would tell You most of You voted for who They appointed. If 99.9% voted for One They did not appoint, They will say that 50.1% voted for Their appointee.
If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it. —Mark Twain
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. —Joseph Stalin
But if You are not in that system, by virtue of withdrawing consent, the only thing They have is bully power. Have You seen this?
And when We are enough of Us standing sovereign, protecting One anOther from bullies, They will have no power. As long as People cling to the illusion that "voting works" They will string Us along to Their agendas.
I mean they kept even more control wituout voting if we go back to day a prior to voting we just had a monarchy and even more draconian control where ppl were tortured for believing in the wrong type of Christianity. I know what your saying it but it doesn’t rly make sense not voting is going to change anything
As I said... Whether You vote or not vote, that in and of itself makes no difference. Stating Your sovereignty, stating that You do not consent to the psychopathic legal/governmental system whenever and wherever We can, not "going to court," returning all paperwork They give You as inapplicable because You do not consent to the system, sharing awareness that They do need Our consent and that if We don't They have no "authority" over Us...
A friend of mine has missed some votings now. He says it is for them (politicians) to know his disagreement. Voting is like confirming their power, their legitimacy for what they are doing right know.
Well I'm not with him, I don't see the point. I think you have the blank and nule voting right so at least it counts, it shows in the figures although here in my country those votes go to those having most votes.
Our democracy it's not the perfect system, it has a lot to improve. Something I would put over the table is: the voting right should be free or should we gain it by studying some politics, social behaviour and more during our education period till we get the age to vote?
I don't know the exact percentage but I'm sure most of the voters have no idea about what they are doing but just choose like they choose the best beer to buy on the market, it just depends on publicity, mainly... sad!
I vote for people to be educated before having the right to vote who is leading our lives.
Yes, sry maybe I didn't make it clear in my comment. I mostly agree with your point of view, with an extra ingredient, this is: educating people before they have the right to vote.
I can't understand how it happens that people keep voting for party criminals, every political party is a criminal organization. I do not understand how it is possible that the Internet has not helped to find honest candidates who could create a government that will work for the people and not for corporations and “philanthropists”.
Democracy is still the best socio-political system, unfortunately it has been hacked by big capital
Thumbs up, thumbs down, you're basically talking about democracy (ancient Rome) - a direct democracy that doesn't need “representatives.” Thanks to the development of technology and the Internet, we should return to this. I ask how you want to overthrow the current system?
Actually, since writing that, I grasped that thumbs down play little purpose.
No, it's not a "direct democracy." It's based on all who think They can help solve a problem having the ability to do so. With no "authority," and not subjecting People who it does not affect to anything. Like "laws" (legalates) that impose on Ones not involved.
I agree with you this stuff about not being led at all and having no police is just silly to me we would be in total chaos.
In Uk we had lowest voter turnout in recorded democracy and all that happened is we have the worst leader ever who is basically a communist and has such a big majority can’t even be challenged.
We do have a smaller party called reform tho rising up the ranks who do seek the real deal. No one truly knows they could be in on it too but when you vote in someone with the ideals you are after they have to at least pretend to enact them somwhat. Our current leader doesn’t even have to pretend and it’s spinning bad and fast.
I am extremely grateful to all the people who expose the lies of those in power and the flaws of democracy, it makes people aware that democracy has been taken over, or has long been in the hands of “Mr. Jones” as in this story.
I disagree, however, with what they propose instead. Not paying taxes and not voting is an unrealistic proposal. All these people have forgotten that mankind came out of the caveman era some time ago
The problem is that you have nothing to vote for. In order to vote, there has to be someone to vote for. The problem is that real, sensible candidates are often not even allowed to be voted for. So the question is how to vote for someone you know is a bad choice and at the same time you know that there are no good choices? In order to have a clear conscience, some people refuse to vote in the hope that the low turnout will generate some real resistance and make the situation urgent.
For example, if only 10% of the population votes in the election, the results will only represent this small part of the population, which can lead to questions about the legitimacy of the elected representatives and their mandate to govern.
This is a basis for invalidating the election, and in such a situation, society can feel how many people disagree with the current policy and this can encourage people to greater opposition and rebellion against the current puppets in power.
no matter how many people take part in the elections, they will always say that they have the legitimacy to rule the rest of us
They do, but we don't necessarily :). It's a bit like with covid. In Poland, for example, there was quite a large percentage of people who said it was a hoax and that translated into others also feeling emboldened to counteract.
Simply put, 90% of people are afraid to stick their noses out until they see that they are the majority. If it came to a situation where only 20% of people voted for the government in the elections, there could be a coup, and the currently elected government would certainly be walking on thin ice because people would be aware that no one voted for this government and that practically everyone around them agrees with them. So they would look the government in the eye and chant for its overthrow. On the other hand, if you have a turnout like the one in Poland recently, 74%, people say:
The people have chosen, what can I do? Besides, since you are aware that 74% of people voted and from this you know that 60% voted for POPIS, then you can be sure that every second of your neighbors not only will not support your activities against the current government but can also kick your ass.
Do grasp that to "vote" You have to register. Any time You register anything, You are giving it to the state – to do with and to it as the state sees fit – in exchange for a privilege. In the case of registering to vote, You are giving Your sovereignty, Your Self, to the state – to do with and to You as it sees fit – in exchange for the privilege of wasting time in a booth.
All the controlminds (governments) on the planet are for-profit corporations, and appoint Their officers. "Elections" are held to maintain the illusion We have a say.
We might want to co-create better than what the psychopaths in control are creating for Us.
Just Stop Consenting! (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/4kmbbz-just-stop-consenting
AND
Join Me as a Sovereign Here on Ethical Ground (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/zbtrk-join-me-as-a-sovereign-here-on-ethical-ground
Still not one person yet with this belief tho has answered me as to how ppl simply not voting would change anything other than for the worse? Can you explain pls I am listening of how things will go when the majority of ppl stop voting?
In Uk we had lowest vote turnout ever in recorded history because of this and we just ended up with the worst government we have ever had in my lifetime and agendas speeding up like crazy with no one to block them. So I’m not seeing some radical shift from not voting.
I think about the best chance is ppl standing up and constantly pushing back/ voting in a smaller party.
Voting or not voting alone makes no difference - like I said, THEY choose who does what in Their corporations. Voting just gives Them a lot of power over You through the registration. You could have had everyOne turn out and They would tell You most of You voted for who They appointed. If 99.9% voted for One They did not appoint, They will say that 50.1% voted for Their appointee.
If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it. —Mark Twain
The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. —Joseph Stalin
But if You are not in that system, by virtue of withdrawing consent, the only thing They have is bully power. Have You seen this?
Walking the Walk Some More (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/walking-the-walk-some-more
And when We are enough of Us standing sovereign, protecting One anOther from bullies, They will have no power. As long as People cling to the illusion that "voting works" They will string Us along to Their agendas.
Constantly pushing back at control as much as possible I think makes the most difference
When enough of Us... Not just push back. Share awareness that We do not have to consent.
I mean they kept even more control wituout voting if we go back to day a prior to voting we just had a monarchy and even more draconian control where ppl were tortured for believing in the wrong type of Christianity. I know what your saying it but it doesn’t rly make sense not voting is going to change anything
As I said... Whether You vote or not vote, that in and of itself makes no difference. Stating Your sovereignty, stating that You do not consent to the psychopathic legal/governmental system whenever and wherever We can, not "going to court," returning all paperwork They give You as inapplicable because You do not consent to the system, sharing awareness that They do need Our consent and that if We don't They have no "authority" over Us...
These things will bring enough of Us...
A friend of mine has missed some votings now. He says it is for them (politicians) to know his disagreement. Voting is like confirming their power, their legitimacy for what they are doing right know.
Well I'm not with him, I don't see the point. I think you have the blank and nule voting right so at least it counts, it shows in the figures although here in my country those votes go to those having most votes.
Our democracy it's not the perfect system, it has a lot to improve. Something I would put over the table is: the voting right should be free or should we gain it by studying some politics, social behaviour and more during our education period till we get the age to vote?
I don't know the exact percentage but I'm sure most of the voters have no idea about what they are doing but just choose like they choose the best beer to buy on the market, it just depends on publicity, mainly... sad!
I vote for people to be educated before having the right to vote who is leading our lives.
Cheers
But isn’t not voting just accepting it too ?
Yes, sry maybe I didn't make it clear in my comment. I mostly agree with your point of view, with an extra ingredient, this is: educating people before they have the right to vote.
Cheers
I can't understand how it happens that people keep voting for party criminals, every political party is a criminal organization. I do not understand how it is possible that the Internet has not helped to find honest candidates who could create a government that will work for the people and not for corporations and “philanthropists”.
Democracy is still the best socio-political system, unfortunately it has been hacked by big capital
We don't. See My comment posted here. EDIT to add: Demo(n)cracy is ghastly - two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Far better:
Solutocracy – A Way to Govern (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/5lw7tx-solutocracy-a-way-to-govern
Thumbs up, thumbs down, you're basically talking about democracy (ancient Rome) - a direct democracy that doesn't need “representatives.” Thanks to the development of technology and the Internet, we should return to this. I ask how you want to overthrow the current system?
Actually, since writing that, I grasped that thumbs down play little purpose.
No, it's not a "direct democracy." It's based on all who think They can help solve a problem having the ability to do so. With no "authority," and not subjecting People who it does not affect to anything. Like "laws" (legalates) that impose on Ones not involved.
As for how...
The End of (Social) Entropy (article): https://blurt.blog/blurttribe/@amaterasusolar/3wacvg-the-end-of-entropy
Just Stop Consenting! (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/4kmbbz-just-stop-consenting
AND
Join Me as a Sovereign Here on Ethical Ground (article): https://blurt.blog/blurt/@amaterasusolar/zbtrk-join-me-as-a-sovereign-here-on-ethical-ground
When enough of Us stand, when We strip Their tool to power away, They will have no more power than You or Me.
I agree with you this stuff about not being led at all and having no police is just silly to me we would be in total chaos.
In Uk we had lowest voter turnout in recorded democracy and all that happened is we have the worst leader ever who is basically a communist and has such a big majority can’t even be challenged.
We do have a smaller party called reform tho rising up the ranks who do seek the real deal. No one truly knows they could be in on it too but when you vote in someone with the ideals you are after they have to at least pretend to enact them somwhat. Our current leader doesn’t even have to pretend and it’s spinning bad and fast.
I am extremely grateful to all the people who expose the lies of those in power and the flaws of democracy, it makes people aware that democracy has been taken over, or has long been in the hands of “Mr. Jones” as in this story.
I disagree, however, with what they propose instead. Not paying taxes and not voting is an unrealistic proposal. All these people have forgotten that mankind came out of the caveman era some time ago
nothing to add, nothing to subtract
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