RE: Political Ponerology - An Incendiary Device - part 1

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Political Ponerology - An Incendiary Device - part 1

in evil •  3 years ago 

It's an insights from laura's preface. Is some years since I read the whole book that I'd kinda forgotten that preface.

I did not know about the preface, but over the years, she and her crew have brought it up very often. Now I know why, because they were the ones who resurrected the tome. I had begun to watch a very old interview they did with Lobaczewski, but I cut it short because his English was really bad, and I do not have the patience to hear new concept, that I am not that familiar with, expressed in bad English.

There is also a clear obfuscation between psychopath and sociopath.

Yes, I have heard of the distinction. The psychopath is more of a human-predator on the individual level, whereas the sociopath we can say is a humanity-predator.

I want people to move away from the Hannibal Lecter and American Psycho movies!

Again, I believe these Hollywood interpretations are intentional, so as to confuse the public with regards to what psychopathy really involves!

so cycles need not always have precisely the same periods. ;-)

In fact, the generational theory is not rigid when it comes to timelines. I have been thinking about that interview I saw, and am thinking that perhaps what Lobaczewski observed in his research may be that the 200 year waves he noticed throughout history may be as a result of a double saeculum in which the Crisis Season of the second dip brings us into a Pathocracy. It's just a theory for the moment.

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Like I said, the predator-prey equations might work really well here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotka%E2%80%93Volterra_equations
All that was needed, was to reinterpret master-slave relations into predator-prey! ;-)

I also think a third sub-species is needed - the observers - those who do not play the game, and nobody listens to until is too late, but are often the source of the next cycle.

There are such 3-way equations used in game theory - of which predator-prey models are just one branch - and I've read papers of them being used to simulate bubbles. The interesting part is that the sane minority cannot stop the mass delusion - be it mass psychosis or mass greed - unless they form quite a high percentage of the population - would have to look up the numbers, but from memory, was something like 15-20%.

The more I look into this, the more I see that the Natural Life Energy model is really needed to add more clarity to these issues. I don't know if the book Who Are You Really? can be found online. It's out of print. 🥺

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

What are the 7 categories or types? I've only heard you mention 4 maybe 5.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

You mean this book?
https://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-You-Really-Personality/dp/1501119966
old? lol. 2017
yeah is avail here = https://z-lib.org/
I dont bother putting direct links as zlib has gone all geoloc servers! also diff file formats.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

My concern is that smearing away the problem and somehow accepting that we should accept a tyranny for some 50 years is not IMO any solution. It is just yet another manifestation of a deeply dysfunctional species.

Also, you mention as an aside the idea of esoteric dimension, but the materialistic predator-types are not going to care. Indeed, they love esoteric CULTS due to their control structure, I don't see within them any self-knowledge.

to be continued :-)

I share your concern, and I certainly would not attempt to justify nor accept tyranny.

I actually agree with you, the esoteric is not for the Aggressive, unless they are there to take advantage of the belief system and the control structure.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever personally known these kinds of people?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Not up close - can smell them, so can avoid them - have seen the type in action in the City of London - and the military - I mean IRL, not news. They will break if the wind is strong enough, they cannot bend like bamboo.

I'll have some more thoughts - might be an issue of too many constructed labels that may, or may not, match up. eg there are also the 12 personality types etc. I dislike self-help book genre - I've thought most of this stuff myself over 50 years - tend to read philosophy and biophysics and neuroscience.

Also had a thought last night. If we take the 7 neuro-energy centres, the chakras, and have them as psycho-parameters, then have 2^7= 128 manifestations - assuming the simple binary on/off options, or active/blocked.

Going off to be a farmer for 2 days - will checkin and comment in the evenings.

There are indeed many personality typology models. I use several. I have a real thirst and passion for this subject, so I guess I have more patience than you when it comes to the more esoteric material that cannot be scientifically validated. With regards to the 7 Life Energies, I can say that I have been able to validate, observationally, their existence for years. I realize that this is not enough for others who need more concrete proof, and I have given up years ago trying to convince people of the validity of these Natural Life Energies because not everyone will have my same passion and patience for the subject.

12 personality types? Astrology? 🤔 😊 I won't even begin to list how models are out there!

Also had a thought last night. If we take the 7 neuro-energy centres, the chakras, and have them as psycho-parameters, then have 2^7= 128 manifestations - assuming the simple binary on/off options, or active/blocked.

I have a wonderful book here that I read several years ago. It's called Microchakra Psychology and it treats each chakra as a mind in and of itself. So each chakra has its own psychology, but the author goes further to say that each chakra contains within it microchakras - 21 per chakra, 7 left, 7 right and 7 middle - I'm pretty sure it's not your cup of tea, but the number of manifestations would be higher 21*7+7=154, and then you factor in active/blocked. It's actually a really good book for those who like another perspective on the chakras, but I think you'd be quickly put off by the idea that it was "channeled" material. I'm using the word channeled, not the author.

Enjoy the nature, Bro!!!

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Wrong book.

WHO ARE YOU, REALLY? Understanding Your Life's Energy

Older... 1996.

I did not find it on z-lib but I have a DOC I could send you.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

ok, yeah prob not digitised - would have to be an individual with the interest to scan a copy. But you have a copy - sure, pls send, either link here or in Discord.

I did digitize it, with the permission of the author, but did not upload it anywhere accessible to the public, other than my Google Drive. I actually retyped and edited (about 4-5 small errors) the book years ago. I wanted to reprint it and use it as a course book to accompany my seminars, but soon discovered there was little interest. I did print out about 30 copies, and sold them during my talks for a tenner. Made a small profit, but gave up on teaching the subject. I send over on Discord! 😉 If you find you don't like it, at least read the chapter on Dynamic Assertives, as I believe that to be your Energy Type. 😎

Dynamic Aggressives
Dynamic Assertives
Dynamic Supportives
Creative Assertives
Adaptive Aggressives
Adaptive Assertives
Adaptive Supportives