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  ·  7 months ago  ·  

Here's a thought...

Imagine this - that an intrinsic part of the consciousness - a composite component of the construct of self awareness itself, was - ... the need to believe ....in something larger than the self...
A very necessary part of mental maintaining health. (keeping the ego in perpetual check/context)
....atheism is a just another belief system - but without any 'ego check' element...hmmm...

This is a part of that psych model that I've been messing around with. (basic outline here)
https://blurt.blog/blurtnews/@lucylin/53padh-jungian-theory-nietzsche-s-philosophy-and-lucylin-s-amalgamation

thanks

  ·  7 months ago  ·  

Re🤬eD

The menu is not the Territory


the map is not the Meal 🥓

yikes

  ·  7 months ago  ·  

yea... open discussions about religion can be a lot like walking into a mine field


also God does not exist 🥓

P1: It is reasonable/rational to withhold belief in an unfalsifiable entity.
P2: God is an unfalsifiable entity.
P3: Atheists withhold belief in God.
C: It is reasonable/rational to be atheist.

All rational people doubt
Theists are rational people
They doubt God
Since they doubt God
they decide to believe in God for rational reasons

Only mad people have no doubts.

not to throw a monkey-wrench into things

but i'm not sure any belief is "scientific"

science is simply a method for gathering and processing and verifying data

people sometimes colloquially employ the term "scientific conclusions" but this is very misleading

even the best data can be interpreted multiple ways

conclusions are never "scientific"

only the data and the method of processing and verifying the data can be considered scientific

100 %

  ·  7 months ago  ·  

While logic is not your strong suit, I think it's great you're trying!

Another thought

In order to become serene towards mortality, you have to enter rock bottom, you have to destroy every belief you have, and become a thousand percent atheist for the time being you need to be atheistic.

Since people undergo different states in their lives, atheism is just one station - but I would say, a very tough one. It's extreme and therefore nothing for a fearful and not ready for it person.

I think every genuine human being was atheistic before they became relaxed towards their own death. You cannot expect that from all people.

letting go of an idea of some cosmic loving father

is just one more thing

One of the most commonly known strongest arguments for atheism is the lack of empirical evidence for the existence of a higher power or deity.

Atheism is not a belief system, it does not refer to any spiritual/religious order that one could follow as an atheist. Atheism is characterised by its non-belief.

Viewed positively, the provocation, coming from atheism, is certainly there for people who are theistic to feel challenged by atheism and, in order to counter it, to increase their own intellectual efforts to critically examine their beliefs, to give better arguments for being theistic and to become more integrative resp. more intelligent in order not to lose their members, perhaps also because atheism is a trend that is constantly on the rise.

Atheism lends itself to reflecting on other worldviews, such as fatalism and nihilism. Personally, I have seen these terms more in connection with it and would put them under the category of negations of certain views.
Negation itself has nothing affirmative to offer, but it is very popular and often used to put the kibosh on another world view.

So, my personal argument for atheism would be its provocative character and that it plays with the doubt of theistic and similar worldviews. It serves maybe as a balancing force.