RE: The Function of the Fake Binary

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The Function of the Fake Binary

in epistem •  2 years ago 

Got tired after 10 mins - rarely watch videos, sometimes in background - can read a transcript in a 10th of the time.

I'm quite the opposite; I'm an extremely slow reader and have always marveled at people who can read a book in a day, while I snail along at about 5 pages a day, on a good day. But "opposite" because since the internet has provided so much audio content over the years, I have had the fortune of discovering that I learn better by listening. I can spend hours with audiobooks, interviews and lectures, and absorb far more than what I get out of reading books. I do, however, love to read articles!

Even after 10 mins, he misses the point - what has been going on is "agency-capture".

Well, the first 10 minutes were mostly spent talking about the cycle of Generations, which I am very familiar with the work of Howe and Strauss! What they said about Łobaczewski's work really fascinated me, especially how they wove it into the WOKE phenomenon and the generational theory.

I like these concepts that I am learning from you. I've been thinking a lot about the belief-engine / truth-engine thing. Now you hit me with agency-capture! Nice one! I can certainly think of many examples of this. Especially considering that most of the world's resources are controlled by about 5 investment firms, who then want control over how those resources are distributed, priced and utilized. Yes, the Merchants / Financiers have taken the Throne!

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Do you have the rough time where they talk about Ponerology?

I've seen a few people claim they learn more through audio and/or video. I can sit through a lecture, I just find many vloggers don't bother to write a script - it's kinda rambling and I get bored going down their badly thought thoughts! lol. One doesn't have to read a script (although would then be great to post the transcript!) coz that can sound dull, but at least have some notes or flashcards. The best interviewers are prepared - not random ramblings. Anyway, will watch it again to see their thoughts, as very few ever bother quoting that book.

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Another thing that made the first 10 minutes smell, was the feeling that these theories are somehow used to justify the tyranny - the "we've been through this before" naivety is IMO very dangerous. The witches were "innocent" after they drowned to death!

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Found it - listened - switched off when the guy claims that the Russian revolution was for real "from below" - how naive is that!?

Anyway, this is why I rarely read or listen to sociologists, as they never seem to come up with a real reason. It's like knowing how to bend metal without any knowledge of atoms - hence never knowing why materials behave differently.

Lobaczewski takes great pains to describe the progression of the psychopathic state as a psychological phenomenon. Calculating the different cycle lengths is totally unimportant. The cycles depend on progress and feedback. The process by which this takes place gives more insights into how to stop it - and why it doesn't get stopped. Mass psychosis does not happen without individual psychoses.

These cycles are expressions of a disease. ;-)

Found it - listened - switched off when the guy claims that the Russian revolution was for real "from below" - how naive is that!?

I have to admit that I am historically illiterate when it comes to Russia, so those kinds of details would have escaped me.

I have not learned anything about Lobaczewski's work, nor do I yet know what ponerology means, but will look it up when I finish here. The generational theory argues that certain cycles are sociological, as well as psychological, hence factor in more than progress or feedback. From what I gathered in the interview, even Lobaczewski roughly calculates a 200 year cycle. As I mentioned before, I don't listen to these podcasts often because I'm just not literate enough to follow certain ideas. But I would say that in this case, I know a little more about the generational theory than the chaps in the video. I could have provided some better insights where I saw that they were struggling with the theory. And part of that struggling I believe comes from the fact that they read The Fourth Turning by Howe and Strauss, but did not read the foundational work Generations: The History of America's Future, 1584 to 2069. I read both.

But when it came to the part about Lobaczewski, which they would be much more enlightened than me, it seemed that they were concluding that it fit into the generational model. And when it really got interesting for me is when they connected the rise of WOKISM with The Fourth Turning or what I call the Crisis Season. In this Season, the Hero Generation, known as the Millennials (born from 1981 to around 2006), are dominant across the university landscape. What I can't figure out is what role is my generation, the Nomad Generation, known as Generation X (born from 1961 to 1981), is playing in all this, because I have been away from the States since 2001, but I'm certain that none of the people I grew up with would be spouting this WOKE bullshit. I can just hear myself now saying to my friends, "What the fuck are you talking about?! White Fragility?! Micro-aggressions?! What the fuck you been smoking, Bro?!"

  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

I wouldn't go that far as to say that they are looking to justify the tyranny, but rather to suggest that the tyranny was inevitable. I always do my best to respect others opinions, but I'm curious as to why you consider "we've been through this before" a naivety? Is it not often said that we are destined to repeat the errors of our past if we do not learn the lessons of those errors? In fact, past mistakes are often repeated, but I think in some cases it is not a question of not having learned the lesson, but rather, it was inevitable that history would repeat. That said, I do agree that "we've been through this before" is not totally accurate because we have NOT been through, for example, trans-humanism before, but "we've been through this before" in the broader sense of tyranny or mass hysteria or the fall of empire. I have studied the generational theory of Howe and Struass for many years now, and interviewed people in Italy and Ireland, and they confirmed that the cycles match the history, so it is not only an American phenomenon. I even gave a talk in 2009 entitled Our Spiritual Winter Has Arrived in which I warned the audience that the Crisis Season has begun and we should prepare ourselves by looking carefully at what we went through in the previous cycle from 1929 - 1943.

I think it may have been about mid-way; and the main presenter of the podcast, Harrison Koehli, is really big into ponerology, and talks about it often.

I've seen a few people claim they learn more through audio and/or video.

I actually didn't know this about myself. It just happened when YouTube starting having seminars and lectures posted. And when the P2P torrent phenomenon allowed me to download tons of pirated audiobooks and documentaries. Then online podcasting blew up, and I started listening to a lot of very articulate presenters, on a wide variety of topics. I have not stopped reading, but I eventually noticed that I retained more information from listening rather than reading.

I'm someone who does not prepare notes for my podcasts or public talks, but I do not like rambling. I make it a point to cut to the chase as quickly as I can, and then end it when I feel that I have covered the issue. I used to ramble a bit when I was broadcasting from community radio stations in Ireland, but that was because I had to complete the hour. Online is a different playing field, because I don't have to look at the clock. So sometimes it takes 10 minutes to cover a topic, and other times it may take 40 minutes. I have also learned to just stick to one subject per smartcast. I used to try to do 4 - 5 topics, but then found that it is far wiser to just roll out one issue, and cut it there. It makes things more comfortable for me and the audience, time wise; and retention of the information is greater when you only focus on one subject.