Nice one. I do not follow WAPF any more, I did years ago but they do not want us vegans around. Apart from that they do good work, lots of anti-wax stuff. People need to get on board with the time hardened activists because we have experience. Now is the time.
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The vegan thing is not that cut a and dry...weston a price was originally a vegan himself and set out to show it was the best diet. Five years of research later her wrote nutrition and physical degeneration, probably the most anti vegan book ever writen.
About a third of wapf members are ex vegans. Same with our customers. Almost all vegans show poor teeth after 10 years. Weston Price was an ex dentist too.
Wapf have gone hard out on germ theory right from the outset, and been punished for it. Same with veganism. They do not back down for funding!
Weston Price was never a 'vegan' veganism wasn't invented until the 1970's and I do not know ONE vegan with bad teeth. I've been vegan for nearly 30 years and all my tooth decay happened when I was a young meat eater, rotten removed teeth and 6 large fillings all before going even vegetarian. My teeth have actually repaired a lot especially since I stopped using conventional toothpaste. Bad teeth are generally caused by lack of vtamin C. Look up scurvy and see.
I don't have a lot of respect for dentists either, they are just mouth doctors and make the same mistakes as doctors do, they also make money from drilling perfectly healthy teeth. If you rally wanted to follow his findings you'd have to be a cannibal as most of the people he studied ate human flesh.
Weston price killed his own son with a dental procedure. That is why he did his research
The word vegan was invented in the 70s but the practise is ancient
yes that's because 'veganism' is not a diet it's about cutting out all animal products from your life and anything which comes from companies who test on animals. I don't know why people use the word for a diet. Most vegans don't even care about healthy food. I think you may be referring to Buddhism which is also not 'vegan'.
as far as morals or ethics of eating animals go i dont even go there - i would struggle to kill a lamb myself, but have no problem with milking a cow or a goat, or catching a fish - so i'm talking about that angle at all - just the nutrition and health aspects
my fav meat is vennison and i know people who hunt, but i'm too soft to shoot a deer myself.
i'm convinced humans are omnivors and need a full range of foods. if i had to gather my own food i'd focus more on seafood
We all see things as we want to see them but scientifically it is verified we are frugivores. Dogs are omnivores and their ability to eat almost anything is legendary.
I suspect you will not 'go there' because deep down you feel it is wrong.
I'm going to not go there because I want you on my side and we can agree to disagree on this
yes I can agree that you disagree lol but I'll get you in the end ;-)
Yeah Deb has damn near done that, raw meat for a year...
To be honest it was beyond gross but it was very healthy for her
I couldnt do it myself. I make sure i eat animal products every meal though.
I tried eating a vegetarian diet for three months but was totally fucked up after two months.
I know you wont be swayed by anything i say, im glad it works for you.
We basically have a business undoing the damage caused by both modern and vegan diets. And the vegans teeth are really messed up. That is more common than you probably want to know
The reason some newbie 'vaguens' get ill is their body is detoxing. Most disease is a healing process labelled as disease. Also they have to go through a change in microbiome which may cause some symptoms depending on how far gone they are. As I tried to explain many times there is no such thing as an 'ex vegan'. There are only ex-fad-dieters giving themselves the fashionable title of 'vegan'. You sell supplements right? So are the supplements saving those people's health or is the diet?
Like I said their teeth were probably messed up before they cut out meat and dairy, they might not have eaten a healthy wholemeal plantbased diet and they probably had health issues from years of eating wrong diet. It takes time to fix all that.
Of course you can't sway me because I am a real vegan because it is an animal rights label not a diet.
in nearly 20 years of wapf related stuff you are the only person i know personally who has thrived on a vegan diet - and i think you are one of the most knowledgable people i know as well.
so i believe you and respect your opinion, but i really have seen the exact opposite, first hand.
the government is trying to kill us all and they have banned raw milk, b17 and attacked liver and geletin. that is not an accident. they are promoting vegan diets and attacking our business.
a large part of Deb's practise was fixing health problems with diet, and adding things like cod liver oil, liver, and geletin, did wonders.
LOL you should have come out sabbing with us then you'd see some healthy vegans. Of course you're going to see sick people in your line of business but to blame it all on a plant-based diet is missing the point. Their agenda is not to make everyone go vegan at all and if it were they've gone about it in a way that has turned everyone in the opposite direction.
Do you agree with adrenochrome? I hear that is very good for the health. No need to think about where it comes from as long as it works eh?
What are your thoughts on lab grown meat? If they wanted us all to go vegan why would they be producing meat in a lab? If it is just meat and no animals had to die for it would it still 'work'?
In about 10 years I'm hoping to look like this woman
http://www.thefruitdoctor.com/annette-larkins-ageless-raw-vegan-70-year-old-woman/
I'm not going to get into this with you - lol - I'm scared of you - I have enough stuff to go on for years about this, but right now we gotta focus on the big issue - the coronahoax - and that brings us back to the start - wapf have been ripping into this shit for years - there are pretty much no other organisations that have done that - and it has cost them big time - they have been set up, sold out and attacked hard.
But Sally Fallon has said she will never back down until she is dead.
David Crowe was on it for years too and he IS dead coz he listened to Kaufman and Cowan on diet advise for his cancer. Bloody Bone broth nonsense. Lanka has been on it for years too. Aajonus Vonderplanitz was a raw meat guy debunking germ theory, he fell off a balcony or so they say ;-)
Hamer was imprisoned several times and was probably killed in 2018.
My friend Sallie O'Elkordy was killed in 2020.
TC Fry spoke openly on it but most famously is probbably the doctor who injected himself with 'hiv' in front of the press. He didn't die from that but they made sure he died soon after. Yes it's a dangerous mission exposing their lies and all of us are prepared to die for it. I would also die for defending animals.