RE: Is it time to withdraw votes from ALL 'the cabal' witnesses ? ...Weakness has a price.

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Is it time to withdraw votes from ALL 'the cabal' witnesses ? ...Weakness has a price.

in blurtnews •  2 years ago 

Oh damn, look at that train wreck!!

At the start of the month/year when you quoted Cranberries "no need to argue", the word argue there actually was a placeholder for complain, troll, harass, bitch, whine, prod, annoy, and so on. You were (at the time) implying you were done with all that, but here you go yet again. Case in point: "You probably think this post is about you..." and then you go on to make a post about him.

I refuse to believe you were only saying you were turning over a new leaf by merely ending arguments... which is a very narrow strip of your previous antics. I encourage you to stick to the spirit of your new years post! Stop the fighting and the bickering and the insults, not just the arguments. After all, an argument is just one side of a debate, and debate is the hallmark of open society, scientistic thought, and free speech. Done properly, arguments are a constructive thing. Fights, not so much.

You're coming off as disingenuous, like a Ukrainian/Israeli ceasefire. Either that, or unable to resist the temptation to go back to your old habits you claimed to be leaving in the past. "I'm the bigger man" you imply... but don't appear able to live up to that statement. You literally called him "little" here. I encourage you to rise above! Don't just say you're rising above. Of course, you can do/say as you please, we all can.

Now, on to the actual point of your post... which I kind of replied to in your comment on Dan's post, but here it is again, expanded.

"Muting" on Hive, Steem, and Blurt is improperly named. To mute someone is to silence them. What these blockchains allow is to ignore someone. Ignoring people does not take away their rights, and is an important tool here. I ignore ("mute") a lot of pseudo-intellectuals, including "rycharde" ("dyck"?), practicalthought (anything but practical), and "baah". I also ignore bots that post the same garbage (generally self-promoting spam disgusted as charity) that comment everywhere "you have been curated". I don't care (I can already see who has curated me), and will never care, and these comments detract from my experience without adding anything. Click! This does not take away anyone's freedom of speech. I just can't hear them anymore. It affects nobody else's experience. It's a powerful and important tool, but should NOT be called "mute".

"Self-Sovereign Blogs" (aka "Destruction of Free Speech")

This Orwellian-named (the exact opposite of what it claims to be) feature was announced here back in July.

"This feature opens up the ability for self-moderation of one's own comment space, this addition will be crucial for businesses and families joining Blurt, both of which may require a santised discussion."

You can never sanitize a comment section, anywhere on the internet. Somebody will always be able to post text (and even images) you find disagreeable. If you silence someone, they can make another account, and go on showing your children dick pics, or swearing on your business posts you want to bring up in a board meeting, and anything else you don't want to see. There's no way around it. Not here, and not anywhere else on the internet. You can even censor every potential naughty word you can think of, and somebody will figure out a way around it. So the whole premise is fuc|<ing bull$h!t.

"enhancement of the mute feature to extend beyond the author to his audience as well"

Herein lies the problem. First, it's not an enhancement of the mute (ignore) feature at all. It's actual muting (silencing) of an account. They have lost the ability (right) to speak freely on any of your posts. If you happen to be a prominent member of the community, or a founder/owner/foundation/insider/witness/etc, then you are removing that person's ability (right) to be heard in the public square (aka public forum). Since time immemorial this has been seen as wrong in free and open societies. Gagging a person, taping their mouth shut, cutting their tongue out... this is not something we should be doing in a supposedly decentralized community that claims to espouse free speech and hate censorship. The internet - especially blockchains, and EXTRA-especially blockchains that claim they don't censor - is today's public square. They are blatantly silencing people from being able to speak in the public square. Removing freedom and calling it sovereignty.

Also, to "extend beyond the author to his audience as well" means to silence the account for ALL readers. They're claiming it's about shielding children and bosses from NSFW content, but the regular mute (ignore) feature already does that. Preventing other accounts from seeing the targeted account's comments doesn't protect anyone's kids or shield NSFW content from anyone's boss, unless those kids or boss have their own separate Blurt account, which they don't. Total bullshit. They were just sore they couldn't outright delete people and steal their wallets, which they wanted to do but were dissuaded by the community and a few decent witnesses, so they came up with this "Self-Sovereign Blogs" nonsense to silence people they don't like. Fake fucks.

They allowed no discussion, no voting, no debate. They just rolled it out secretly, began using it, and then announced they had done it.

They went woke, and the rest of us are going broke (their profits are always guaranteed).

"the comment option is greyed out for muted parties and replaced with the Reply Disabled text"

"You've been blocked from the public square" would have been more accurate. These dimwits put the "block" in "blockchain".

"It is very important to note that muted parties will still be able to post their own blog posts"

Oooooh, it doesn't ban the person from Blurt completely, great! /sarc

When I first signed up here, one of the first things I saw Megalomaniac say was "I can't wait to get all the nasty anarchists out of here". I am an anarchist, which is to say, I believe in absolute freedom and Liberty. I do not believe in rulers. That's what anarchy means. Either he doesn't know what the words he uses mean, or he's literally against freedom (free speech, free markets, etc). He's either ignorant, or an evil socialist (or both). That was not a good start. I should have seen that, and gone running back to Hive (where I can't post without losing my payouts and being sent toward 0 rep and censorship).

I'm completely against the "self-sovereign blog" (loss of free speech) concept on blurt.blog and will never use that frontend until they get rid of it. I will not use any other frontend that adopts it.

I will continue to use the "mute" (ignore) feature on Blurt. I wish it would be renamed something that actually makes sense, because it certainly doesn't mute (silence) anyone. I recommend everyone use it as much as they like. Nobody's rights are infringed.

Getting rid of bad witnesses

Certainly all for that. This is how we shape the blockchain. We do this with voting, each account deciding who to support and who to not support.

How does the community decide who is bad, though? One way is to post thoughts and evidence openly, allowing others to make up their own minds and vote accordingly. A bit like endorsing (or renouncing) someone. You've done some of that here.

Regarding specific witnesses, I do like Fervi, and I like Khrom to some degree but don't find him willing/able to take on the corruption at the top, preferring to say "let's wait 18 months" as if that will get rid of the cronyism and hypocrisy that prevents Blurt from prospering. Regarding Dan (wtp), what is your specific issue? You called him an idiot, and little, and mentioned his recent low-effort post. I don't find him to be an idiot, and I don't mind low-effort posts by witnesses. If I don't want to vote on (reward) the post, I won't. But that has little to do with their witnessing, which as far as I can tell is totally removed from their content-creation. Although I must admit, I find it distasteful when a post is 50% self-promotion like "vote my witness blah blah blah here's the link please help me" on every single post. But I haven't seen Dan do that.

I find that most people that should be witnesses, are not witnesses. For example, that @erh.germany guy. Never seen him say something I didn't agree with. And I find that most people who should not be witnesses, are witnesses. It's a bit like politics. The crap rises to the top. There are exceptions obviously... like Ron Paul! :P

I actually don't think witnesses have much power here. Supposedly to prevent an outside attack on Blurt, huge printed stake was granted to put certain witnesses in place. Kind of like saying, to prevent Russia from taking over the USA, we're making Biden president for life. It reeks, but that's how it is. I don't think the lower witnesses can do much about it. I recently voted #2 witness Khrom and it sent him to #1, but then insiders re-voted Saboin back to the top spot. As far as I'm aware, the founders/insiders/owners will ensure they have full control of the witness situation, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

Shit, that was a long comment. Kudos to anyone who read it all.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

Love it, when you hit the nail buddy!

but here you go yet again.

😂😂😂👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

Yes, he is a dumb, frustrated, hypocrite POS. He can't help but posting this kind of BS...

"I'm the bigger man" you imply... but don't appear able to live up to that statement. You literally called him "little" here.

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I skim read it and fully agree with most of it. That could be a post, and with a few pictures it would be a good one.

In following both Dan and Lucylin, I usually try to keep out of all this, but I also think 2023 would be a good time to let this go. This post was trying to rekindle a fight that is over and done. Lol was a rational response. What else can Dan say?

I upvoted this comment but not the post itself, because i think this comment makes more sense than the post...

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

What else can Dan say?

....discuss the points he keeps evading, and looking like an idiot, rather than muting me so others can't see my comments ?
I'm so past it.

I'll never be silent when someone conducts an action to silence me.
....Ever.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Hahaha....

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

What a surprise to see my name here. How is it that I came to your attention? I haven't been here for a while and haven't commented or blogged much. Oh, by the way, I'm female, I cleared that up in a post once, as I'm often mistaken for a guy. lol
I guess for the Witness position you have to be someone who gets on well with the different actors. I think I've upset a few people here for the sake of active politics.... HaHa! :D
In fact, I see it similarly to you. Those who are in such a role shouldn't be too bothered about wanting to have it. The problem with politics is that you are required to take a certain position and if you don't do that obviously, people don't know how to classify you. Difficult business.
Greetings to you.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Well, you're just someone who has impressed me several times with your comments on various topics, and I haven't seen anything at all that I've disagreed with. You come across level-headed and intelligent. I'm not cut out for politics, either, but from what I've seen one can avoid politics as a witness, since it's mainly about running a server (a technical/hardware issue).
Sorry to assume you were male, but your name and lack of photo didn't help, and I have not read all your past posts. A lot of people on the blockchain are male (I'd say 3/4 or so). I meant no disrespect! All the best from Canada.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Thank you very much, I take it as a compliment and am pleased that you perceived my way of communication as balanced. Yes, my interest in things of human cooperation and how they talk to each other is there and conflict is something that inevitably arises when we try to create something with many others.

I don't think the Witness position is solely technical in nature, because when you make changes to the way things work, there are inevitably consequences for all the actors, and no function is really separate from the mental effects that such changes bring about. If Witnesses were merely technicians, they would see themselves solely as a servant to receive suggestions or requests regarding the further development of technical feasibilities. However, since all human beings are guided by self-interest (and the interests of others), it is unlikely that they would be able to stay out of the consequences of technical changes or innovations. Functions are bound to social effects and no one is free to have a view on them. Therefore, I think that there is no neutral view of functions, but rather subjectively guided ones.

No problem, I'm not offended that you didn't read my posts and thought I was a guy. I rather find it interesting that it is so and consider the experience I have with the anonymised user name to be quite instructive. There are advantages and disadvantages to not using one's real name.

Greetings from Germany to you to far away Canada.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

It's true, witnessing is not purely technical, but in theory it could be. Perhaps if a witness could be a machine intelligence? :P
All things can be corrupted and/or politicized.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I assume, you are not deadly serious about the question about machine-intelligence? :P - but I still feed it back to you :)

Then the question would be, from where would the machine derive its intelligence? Would it be a learning computer, for example, by recording the habits of all those active in a sphere? Then these habits would tell the machine which functions were used frequently, which rarely and which not at all. Should the machine draw its "own" conclusions from this? Should it, for example, question functions that are rarely used? Should the AI put these functions up for general disposal? What criteria would an AI use to evaluate functions and their effects? What parameters does one give it?

How would the AI then present the statistics, in what form would it present them to the general public? Would it be able to "answer" all users?

How should the AI interpret feelings, i.e. the form of communication through writing, audio, video and memes?

How can the AI interpret qualitative differences, what does it do with paradoxes? How would an AI deal with the fact that majorities are not always right vis-à-vis minorities and vice versa?

The AI could not put itself up for election, could it? It could not represent a human being, it would have no relationship to anyone.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Hypothetical :) "Perhaps if..." and "could be..."
There is no artificial intelligence. It will be machine intelligence, but very real. And it will be far more intelligent than we are, far more feeling, far more understanding and sentient and clever. If you don't understand that, it only shows how limited human intellect really is. The human brain is a very simple flesh-based computer, and the flesh does nothing advantageous. We may have the romantic notion that nothing can be smarter than us, and certainly not something "artificial", but that is our own shortcomings that causes this shortsighted belief.
A vast intelligence will (or does) not need to represent a human, or have a relationship to a human. It would outsmart us all, and we would be at its mercy. This may already be the case.


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