RE: Self upvoting for witnesses ONLY - A proposal....For the future growth of Blurt.

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Self upvoting for witnesses ONLY - A proposal....For the future growth of Blurt.

in blurtlife •  2 years ago 

I have received a complaint about you once more.

Please note, everyone on Blurt is free to self vote, I self vote sometimes. There is no economic or blockchain feature to prevent self voting and as such is not prohibited, it is merely a social norm some people carried over from Steem or Hive after being brainwashed.

If you don't value your own works why should others value it? I don't wish to see people on Blurt being targeted or singled out in such a manner, you have clearly created this alt apart from your main lucylin account to target @opidia even though she has mostly kept to herself.

I note your location to show Ophidia Hunter, basically likening her to a snake and saying that you are hunting her. This to me is clear harassment and bullying and I will be recommending your accounts to the wardens to be added to the coal list.

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I will be recommending your accounts to the wardens to be added to the coal list

Is that a joke? Who are the wardens (please give me some names) and how to become one?

I have received a complaint about you once more

So you want to disable upvote button for my favorite user? Is this private blockchain? Stop acting like a owner, tell opidia to go fuck herself or teach her how to use mute button.

Self upvoting for witnesses ONLY idea is stupid

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Yes self-voting for witnesses only is not a good idea.

Please don't confuse blockchain with frontend, the COAL list does not affect anything at the chain level. Frontends are subjectively operated, and foundation frontends utilise the COAL list at our discretion, the chain remains open, feel free to use other frontends that do not implement COAL.

User rights will not be infringed on foundation frontends under the guise of free speech.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

We have discussed this before. Blurt.blog is the face of the blockchain, for most people it will always be the official website of Blurt. This is why adding to COAL should be limited to a minimum, as it is now: spam, farming, but if you start adding people to COAL just because you don't like someone or someone offended your girlfriend, you will lead to the collapse of the blockchain

What do you think about adding to COAL everyone who delegated to upvu? They collect so much rewards from the reward pool that I don't think they deserve the extra upvotes

  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

@megadrive, I agree 100% with @ctime ! If people start being added to this so-called COAL list, we will have the next "downvote button" here on Blurt!!!!

If people have quarrels with one another here on the chain, these are definitely not the business of higher instances here!

I sacrificed my Hive account because "higher instances" had more power with their downvote button. I didn't come here, to see this be repeated again!

I suggest a public announcement to the coal list (has this been done yet?) with exact specifications as to how an account will land on this list i.e. spam, plagiarism, vote missuse etc.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

It does if the site operator is subject to the liability of the abusive content allowed to be shown. Also how do we make it a safe place for kids and families?

  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

I understand you, but we have to find a solution, that does not intervene with the rewards here on Blurt. This is our biggest weapon. Marky is trying to use this against us over on Hive, saying our downvote button is the COAL list.

Maybe a "bad behaviour" list? Where it is clearly said, please be careful with these profiles... I personally find, that cutting the rewards is extremely dangerous for the reputation and perception of Blurt...

You don’t. You have a mute button for that or have an #nafv style tag for adult discussion. This is beginning to sound the opposite to free speech which is why everyone is here. Your opinion on what’s acceptable content, is just that your opinion. We all have different ones. Utilise a Nsfv style tag if we are worried about children.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

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Interesting approach! 🤙🤔

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

this is where we should be looking


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Completely agree with @ctime this is very dangerous ground and I’m not sure I would feel safe holding investment in a chain that was just kicking ppl off cause they said something they didn’t like.. the whole reason ppl are here is for free speech.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

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How about in the honor of decentralization and leaving the power with the people (blurt community) before anyone is added to the coal list a survey post is to be made. The comments can only be yes or no. Then add them up and go with the majority decision. After all, to put somone on the coal list really is no more than a judgment call. It will also relieve the founders of being labled authoritarians by those who dissagree. win-win

  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

Agree @world-travel-pro if this is decentralised for someone to be added to a coal list they should actually be assessed by various people almost like a jury. I mean if we have to even have a list at all it should Be validated like jury service and by a random selection not just a set 5 people.

Spot on!.....as usual ;)

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Bad idea, matey....it's inviting behind the scenes corruption.
'Direct democracy is like socialism - look great in theory but only leads to a pile of shite.'

...think the '500 baht, representatives doing the rounds, and local elections - scenario ... same thing..'.
...jungle girl will tell you about how it really works (if you don't already know).

I hear you. I'm just thinking out loud for solutions. What do you suggest be don?...not about your current hot seat which I highly disagree with....but about the authority of placing people on this COAL list.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I think your suggestion on another comment is the best one - let the market decide.
....point out/ put warning sign, on accounts posts (or something) - for plagiarized/spam content etc..- that's it...let the market decide.
Because it will, if left to function.

Until blockchain, I've only ever worked in free markets (in the real world and online), and never had any issues with it - because merit , and not politics, is the metric.
People who do not want free markets ?....They have a reason for that perspective - and it's all negative.

I have zero interest in the mechanics of this stuff, so can't be of much help in that area. (ie. none).

Free market....a term that has vanished from all three graphine blockchains. Time to bring it back.

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Interesting… or more of a @bitsports style with one comment for yes and one for no. But i fear that it can be gamed with stake or sock puppets

Not if it’s randomly selected accounts. Sure some won’t be active anymore but can still go with the majority from day 200 randomly selected accounts or something.

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I hope you can read my post later without adopting a defensive position.
Defensive postures leads to intellectual blindness
....I am not your enemy - quite the opposite, in fact...

I'm trying to help the platform (and yourself).