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in blurtgerman •  3 years ago  (edited)

@opidia

Almost every second vote is a self-vote!

 
 
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Almost every second vote is a self-vote!

 
To explain the tool:
The r%-number does not show the number of selfvotes given to the account @opidia in this example. This would not be very meaningful.
The r%-number shows the share of rewards out of the total rewards by the self-vote of this account.

Why did I post this?
@opidia is the creature who publicly wrote and lied that @elkezaksek Uganda work is all fake.

And I was publicly wished death by this creature soon.
 

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

It goes along the lines of shooting oneself in the foot while throwing the rest under a bus.

What self votes do depends on the function of the crab bucket. The bigger the vote, the less the little votes get back in return. Not the mention the returns are worse if one votes close to the end of the checkout date. Why is it shooting yourself on the foot. Well, people will catch on and may lose votes from others. Not that they don't want to vote but they also want to keep more of their returns.

I see this happening with many bigger accounts, even whales self voting.

What can one do?

Is the reward pool needing a patch? Is there a leak? Not this time. Just a crab bucket doing its job. What is it like being a bottom feeder? Scraps get us by for the day but we could use more cowbell.

HODL Hard Folks

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I don't understand the way people choose themselves. Moreover, they were popes, with a large amount of power on their account. While all the time, small accounts continue to grow. Wouldn't it be wiser to use the strength of big accounts to help small accounts?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

We've had these questions and discussions before.
I made a post about it at the time:

https://blurtlatam.com/blurtgerman/@elkezaksek/upvotes

Since that time I upvote my posts.
Our German community, also the whales have always supported small accounts!



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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Maybe everyone has a different opinion on this. But for me, it became a strange thing.

Our German community, also the whales have always supported small accounts!

I have absolutely no doubts about it, because I myself have received a lot of support from friends in the German community, including from you. I'm always grateful for it, and that kindness is what I try to spread to other users, even if in small amounts.

I as a small user feel the support of the German community. Even though we are from different countries, we still support each other, both with sound support and supporting knowledge. I find it very helpful for their initiative.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Big enough accounts could wait till the end of the payout period to put in their votes on top of the small votes.

You notice how quickly they are to vote within the hour. It is a recurring behavior, and frankly I think not blurt, steemit, or hive have anything to do with this. I think it's a habitually conditioned behavior stemming from deeper in the roots of childhood upbringings. IMO

Either way, I can not do anything about it. I have no ideas against it other than warning newcomers and small accounts that we are shrimp, and this is a crab bucket. There is no way around it. It is like this by design. Welcome to dpos :) Still much better here than dpos with DV then its just "dictatorship and feudalism" -@lucylin

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

We've had these questions and discussions before.
I made a post about it at the time:

https://blurtlatam.com/blurtgerman/@elkezaksek/upvotes

Since that time I upvote my posts.
Our German community, also the whales have always supported small accounts!


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I really don't understand. I'm just an anchovy who prefers to share, who always believes that giving won't kill me. Never even thought of filling my own pocket, just for fear that no one would give.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

You love the #IDUVTS tag just for being cool and nice with whales ?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Of course not. That has absolutely nothing to do with it. I use the #IDUVTS tag because it aligns with my thinking from the start on Blurt, that I don't like VTS. Not to be cool or to attract whales. My closeness to some of the big accounts here is due more to my willingness to establish good communication with them and other users. Just like you. Some are willing to accept me sincerely, some are full of suspicion. Yes, it's natural and human.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

"There's no need to explain yourself to anyone, because those who like you don't need it. And those who hate you won't believe it." (Ali Bin Abi Talib)


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

people have a lot of options in the crypto space for making a good return on their investments

blurt self-voting is no where near the top of that list

all participants in the blurt eco-system boost the value of blurt

all participants


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

If truly @opidia wishes you death as you said, then it's totally wrong by opidia! Only heavenly God giveth life and only him taketh life! But please this blurt ecosystem is now turning to judgement platform day in day out! Please all these drama should stop and let's Live in peace here! Thanks you all!!!
#peace


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This is what is defined as enriching oneself!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

do you consider it "immoral" to purchase goods from your own store, or pay for meals at your own restaurant ?


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I don't think so. If I do that, it means I'm overly calculating. My background is social activist, so don't take that into account and I don't benefit myself either by upvoting my posts.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

i don't self-vote

but i don't think we should try and shame people who choose to self-vote

there are several whales on hive, holding hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hive tokens

who dumped their investment

and left hive completely

after getting targeted and shamed for self-voting

this hurts the entire platform

a few of them have turned to blurt and are willing to give this experiment a chance

let's not make the same mistake that the hive oligarchy made

live and let live

figure out how to use the mute button if you don't want to see their content



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Hmmmm.. this touches me to my soul

You are very correct.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Please, we should join hands and make smaller account and newbies grow
Seeing this is not encouraging

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Agreed, please see my comment further up.


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I know sir that you have tried for the growth of this platform so far. Keep doing the good work by voting people's comment! It's truly praiseworthy!!


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

exactly


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  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

I did selfvote for the past week yes ( not each second , which would be impossible )
A but the highlight here is
You are making a very serious accusation , where did i say i want you to die ?

If it is illegal to selfupvote , why do you do it with such huge stake ?

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Here is the list about me.
I can be found further down with 2.3%.
 
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I don't doubt you one bit, sir. I'm sure you have a good personality and want to help others, especially small users. Thank you sir!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I know you've tried for this blurt ecosystem. You've really tried in voting people's comment as well. It's truly commendable!


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

and is your 2.3% worth MORE than most other accounts at 100% ?


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

No, 2.3% is the worth!

"To explain the tool:
The r%-number does not show the number of selfvotes given to the account in this example. This would not be very meaningful.
The r%-number shows the share of rewards out of the total rewards by the self-vote of this account."

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

i'm talking about $$$ equivalency


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Sorry! I have now drunk a coffee and try again ;-)

Of all the $-rewards that came from the last 300 votes of mine, 97.7% went to the community and 2.3% to me.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

for example,

(iff) i had a blurt-power of 138,984.791 (then) my 100% vote would equal your 2.3% vote

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for example,

(iff) i had a blurt-power of 138,984.791 (then) my 100% vote would equal your 2.3% vote


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

No and sorry! I can not express it more clearly than this:

"Of all the $-rewards that came from the last 300 votes of mine, 97.7% went to the community and 2.3% to me."

If this is not enough, please ask the developer of the tool @michelangelo3. But he also made his departure from Blurt today. Possibly he still answers.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Me too! If you don't get it, it's not because of the fantastic tool ...

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

It's an honor to be in the top 10 accounts that have your vote support. Thank you very much.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

But surely I'm allowed to be against self voting?
I haven't done this for a long time, either on Blurt, Steem or Hive.

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I have my habits. Even if it seems like it, I'm not in a "vote gang".

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A wise man once said, "self vote, is like masturbating in public".

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

do you consider it "immoral" to purchase goods from your own store, or pay for meals at your own restaurant ?


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

No. But I think it's immoral to reward yourself. At the time, I talked about it a lot. I don't look at the monetary aspect of it, but the self-given "likes." I realize that a very large percentage of reviews on Blurt and Hive are made out of gratitude and hope. I noticed this again after my last post on Hive. I can't create good content, unfortunately. I'm aware of that. But people seem to like my content and I know the reason, it's not the content, but there are other motivations that I'm sure you'll know. One reason is gratitude. Another reason may be the hope of a great review. But the most common motivation is taking rewards, which drives the curator to a high rating.
A user sees a self-vote as an investment. I see a self-vote as a caress of my own. - Similar to "Mom says I write good posts, even if others don't appreciate it, then I'll vote myself!" ;)
That's naughty. If the community wants to line its pockets solely through positive reviews, then it doesn't need a platform for bloggers.
But, thank you for your comment.



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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

i don't self-vote

but i don't think we should try and shame people who choose to self-vote

there are several whales on hive, holding hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of hive tokens

who dumped their investment

and left hive completely

after getting targeted and shamed for self-voting

this hurts the entire platform

a few of them have turned to blurt and are willing to give this experiment a chance

let's not make the same mistake that the hive oligarchy made

live and let live

figure out how to use the mute button if you don't want to see their content

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Ganz toller Account! Respekt! 🤮

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Almost every second vote is a self-vote!

Nicht nur auf Blurt, sondern auch auf der anderen Chain.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

We are about to raise the price with VKRW, do you want to help get everyone started?