RE: Delegation Removal ~ Community Voting

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Delegation Removal ~ Community Voting

in blurtdevelopment •  3 years ago 

If someone with doulble-u power would daily make 3 or 4 Post and would vote each of them with 100% that would not be good .
On the Other hand he makes every week his Pub a very important event here on Blurt .
Their People can make advertisment 4 post they think that they are important .
Chat with each other and a big part of these people that comment get a vote form Double-u . Werner votes Sunday,Monday and sometimes even on Tuesday people in the Pub .
So please do not pretend that he is only enriching himself with his votes

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Let's talk about me instead then. I've bought myself 50,000 Blurt with my own hard earned money. I want to self-upvote but don't know what's considered acceptable. 3 to 4 posts per day is considered too much so is 2 posts per day is ok? Or am I allowed more because I'm not very powerful?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Do you think double-u did not worked hard 4 his blurt ?
The same rules apply to everyone. So if you would now make 4 posts a day and vote them all with 100% yourself I would not find that ok.
Even less ok I would find it if these were your only votes that you would make daily.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I don't think how hard somebody works for their Blurt is important. You could have worked just as hard for your Blurt as he did for his or as I did for mine. Or perhaps his came easier. Or perhaps mine did. And I agree with you when you say "The same rules apply to everyone". What is still unclear to me is what these rules are...?

Every society needs rules so that people can live together.

I know I'm being a dick about this. I actually support the blocking of delegations to UpVu (having experienced 1st hand what it's done to Steemit). But... I don't understand why 1 self-upvote is ok, and 4 or 5 isn't. And why delegations to UpVu have been blocked (without discussing the issue with them) yet delegations to similar users are still allowed. To share a few quotes that I read from another user...

But what would you say if I gave all 10 votes to myself every day?

I'm sure you wouldn't like that. Probably you would find that antisocial. And probably you would quickly, together with other users, think about how to prevent this.

I've been of the opinion for a very long time that we should set clear rules about what percentage of self-votes are okay, and at what amount it's no longer okay. That would finally put an end to this moral judging.

Delegating one's blurt power is just as much anti-social behavior.

The author compares delegations with self-upvoting. Now delegating to UpVu has been stopped (I've previously stated the unfairness of the approach taken in this regard so won't repeat it). It's not been capped at a percentage (let's say 1 upvote per day), it's been stopped altogether.

So why set a limit on a behaviour that's been directly compared to UpVu and not prevent it from happening altogether?

By blocking UpVu, Blurt has set a precedent in defining rules for its users. An implementation of legislation for how users must behave. I can't decide how to end this reply. UpVu has had "punishment" dealt to them with new legislation being created solely for that user whilst the #getupvotes Discord channel continues without the same level of scrutiny that UpVu received. I will end now, back with where we started...

The same rules apply to everyone.

Unfortunately, they don't.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

How many times a day it is ok to vote yourself is not specified anywhere. The 4 times is my personal taste and the 4 also only an approximate guideline 4 myself.
If you vote only yourself not even 1 selfvote a day is ok. It must always stand in proportion.


@double-u gives in the week certainly 50 to 100 votes others since that we should not get upset about a few self votes.


I also vote myself when I'm still over 80% votepower late at night. Then I just haven't found any content I want to support, but still want to use my votepower ideally.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Ok, well thank you for sharing your point of view with me. It's not something I'll ever agree is ok, irrespective of who's doing it or their reasons for doing it but as one other user also wrote:

Am I the stupid one for not doing it?

And I've previously asked myself the same question regarding UpVu.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Sure no problem and lets compare my voting ,@double-u and your voting of the last 7 Days.
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You did 43 Votes in the Last 7 Days and 1 Vote was a Selfvote. Your casted votes 2 23 diffrent User.


@double-u did 262 Votes in the Last 7 Days and 4 Votes where Selfvotes. He casted votes 2 43 User in the 7 Days.


And i did 103 Votes in the Last 7 Days and 1 Vote was a Selfvote. I casted 33 User.


Who did of us 3 the most 4 the community in the Last 7 Days ? What do u think and remember u gave 8 Votes 2 bitsports(what is your right 2 do).

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

All of which is irrelevant to the debate regarding self-voting and ignores the earlier question I asked regarding other voting services. (I don't recall self-upvoting but I'm not one to argue with computers.)

I've also previously delegated to UpVu and still have a delegation to Tomayon. So am I being ironic, or am I just another hypocrite out to serve my own interests?

At this time, I'm not committed to the Blurt community. My investment was an initial taster to see what I thought and unfortunately, all of the content I'm interested in is plagiarised. At this time, there's no consequence for the actual plagiarists (like there has been for UpVu). So I'm waiting to see what happens before deciding whether to invest more seriously with my time, IT skills or financially, which at the moment, I'm unlikely to do. I still have some hope (with megadrive at the reigns) so I'm holding my current investment.

ctime decided to continue his investment, safe in the knowledge that his nemesis (UpVu) has been banned. Nothing is being done about my 2 nemesis (plagiarism and self-voting).

So you'll obviously contribute more to the community and whilst doing so, continue to fill your own pockets. Which is your right to do. But the fact that this debate even exists, means that people know that they shouldn't be doing it, yet continue to do so.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

By the way, I'm going to leave the debate at this point but I will continue to read your replies.

My final note on the subject is to say that upvoting services (like UpVu) benefit 2 people, the service and the person using it. Self-voting only benefits the person self-voting. It is a selfish act. And in my opinion, Selfish is contradictory to the idea of Community (no matter how you paint it).