Okay, so the latest issue to come up is the "tinkering" with the Blurt.blog trending page. The "tinkering" has been clearly stated by top witness and creator of blurt.live @imransoudagar any changes at the moment are temporary and should be ignored. However that is hard to do as the current change does not factor in @mariuszkarowski's vote; a Blurt whale and supporter of Blurt's top mascot and smelly little Penguin Lucy Lin!
So what seems to be the obvious cause for this "tinkering" is @mariuszkarowski and combined with @ctime's vote are powerful enough to put @lucylin on the trending page 100% of the time; personally I think that is great. I like basically all of his posts except the ones that are designed to humiliate some of our valuable developers and witnesses, several out of India who I know for a fact are doing some serious development work.
Basically Lucy has them twisting and turning and maybe even roasting on a spit over a fire. I mean Lucy is the court Jester. He's the Don Rickles of Blurt, a total ball buster, and I do like that about him. But it's a real culture clash with some people. Heck, I can let whatever roll off my sleeve and laugh at myself, but saving face is a very important thing in many parts of the world, and it's evident that his targets are not able to laugh it off or just ignore it.
Instead we have seen rash errors made in management as people stop thinking and begin reacting. Frankly in some ways this puts @Lucylin as the most powerful person on the Blockchain at the moment.
So now we have another "censorship" crisis on the platform, regarding the Blurt.blog trending page. Trust me, I'm not losing any sleep over this one either, and I'll tell you why.
But I will first say I disagree with the changes made to trending on blurt.blog as it removes a lot of great posts that should be on trending as well. Further more, just like I don't like Lucy singling people out and tearing them apart, I don't like singling out anyone's vote value and eliminating it from significance in any way. To me we've got two wrongs and that does not make a right as the saying goes.
Why This is Another Big Nothing Burger
For starters we should all be grateful nobody is getting down voted off the platform and their rewards canceled out. We should all remember that we can all speak our mind freely here without self censoring in fear of some turd destroying our blog via down vote. Currently that is an ever growing issue on Hive, and if Blurt can keep it's shit together, blurt stands to gain big from that as we move forward.
Furthermore there is no other place as decentralized and as sound fundamentally that I know about. So when you compare what he have, to what we are bickering about, there is no comparison.
Another point, this just makes blurtlatam and blurt.live front ends more valuable in the eyes of many. As far as blurt.blog, lets not forget they said they are just testing things out, so this is probably not even permanent.
Finally, this is not a blockchain fork, or some kind of change to the rock-solid data recording fundamentals and economics of the blockchain. This is a guy and his website making some changes. It's his "personal property" as they say, and it may inspire someone else to make a new, better, super bad ass front end that generates income for the creator and gains the majority of users.
I'm all for competition. All these "front ends" do is just pull data from the blockchain, there could be all kinds of front ends. Yes, I get it, blurt.blog is the "main" one, but that does not have to remain the case. Furthermore I believe the owner @megadrive is open to suggestions/negotiation as long as you don't refer to him as a f^%king c&nt or something like that.
My Personal Thoughts on the Situation
Everyone here on blurt who has spent any time, money, or energy wants Blurt to succeed..... or it shall be assumed. Everyone wants the price to go up and the platform to grow. How we get from A to B, that can be debated until the cows come home. That being said I do not believe it is in anyone's best interest to have day after day trending posts about how much blurt and certain top people here suck, even if you believe they really do suck.
I feel that it's safe to assume that it is not only a distraction for our developers developing, but it also is a turn off to the new would be investors/bloggers seeing this on trending all the time....That being said, just like a Blurt front end, what our whales do with their up-votes is entirely up to them and that right is to be protected.
Personally I have no problem supporting Lucy Lin. I basically agree with his general political stance of the world, it's clear he is an intelligent, creative, funny, skilled content creator. I'd just like to see him excel in a positive light here, rather than a negative antagonistic one.
I just can't be like....."Yeah, take that you midwit megadrivel! hahahaha go get em'. drop the mic!" and back that on a daily basis. Seriously, there are far more productive ways to go about things and influence change here.
Solutions
The way I see it you've got three entities at play here, all reacting to each others decisions. In the middle you've got @lucylin taking it upon himself to decide weather or not to write disparaging posts about said people.
Then you've got @megadrive and company deciding weather or not to take any kind of censorship action. Then you've got @ctime and @mariuszkarowski deciding whether or not to push these disparaging posts to trending.
So for a win win solution for everyone here we just need one or more of these entities to change. I'm talking a win for the platform, for the level one user, the mid range investor, all the way up to the very top. Who wants to step up and be hero of the platform on this topic? I'm sure the community will applaud whoever takes the lead.
THE SURVEY
Please choose one and feel free to comment afterwards as much as you'd like, but please keep it civil for the sake of the platform.
Note: This survey is only to collect the consensus of the community and to further exchange ideas. The owners of votes, front ends, and writings, will of course have the final say in what they do, however your input will certainly have an influence on decision making. Thank you for participating in another Blurt Community Survey. I'll leave my answer in the comments along with the rest of you!
A: Blurt.blog should not "tinker" with the trending page omitting the value of anyone's vote and not attempt to censor @lucylin in anyway. Make that public and ignore any further disparaging posts if made.
B: @lucylin should stop making disparaging posts about the developers and witnesses out of India and Africa.
C: @ctime and @mariuszkarowski should stop up-voting Lucy's disparaging posts to trending.
D: All of the Above
E: This is all a big whatever and should be ignored.
F: @lucylin should make nice with his adversaries and be promoted and rewarded as he focuses on creating great funny content that everyone can enjoy, and maybe one day become official Blurt Mascot!
G: Fill in the blank _____________
Thank you everyone for taking the time. The most powerful entity on the Blockchain is you, the voice of the community so please vote, speak up, and lets check back in a few days and see what we've got.
G: A little bit of all of these options.
The trending page does need some work and I think that it can be a combination of a few factors like number of votes, the size of the total votes, number of comments and even comments of comments meaning there was more interaction. But then again I think there are other things that could use more focus from resources and time.
I think that some trolls should be ignored.
I think that if some people do not enjoy what the developers and people who have also invested in time, money and sweat don't like it they should probably find better use of their time then profiting off of bashing the very system they are using.
I don't think that investors should be given god status just because they have brought money inside. I don't think in the world of crypto more money equals business intelligence or intelligence in general especially if translated to the real world.
Every startup or entrepreneur being coached for success in business or attracting venture capital or investors is taught that not every investor is good for the business, some are just plain toxic and can ruin the business with the money they put in and how and when they decided to take it out. A quality investor brings more to the table than just money, they bring connections, marketing, network, useful skills, supply chain and other things that will propel the business far beyond just capital. I see some very intelligent good meaning community members here pandering to investors just because they are that investors. The thing that is different on the block chain vs. real world business is that you can not pick and choose the investors here. In the real world these negative investors would be shown the door and asked to leave. But that is not what this block chain is about as well. So middle grounds must be found.
If people are interested in improving blurt having conversations like this are the way to do it, not attacking and mocking the people that gave them the platform very to do so.
On the flip coin I think that those with the tough task of steering blurt and developing blurt could do better to ignore the noise. The only reason I came to blurt is because me and Jacob are old college pals and at first I missed his presence here but there is intelligence in his madness. He ignores the noise lets the block chain rule interactions and market and social fills in the rest of the gaps. Much of the bickering here is about nothing because nothing major is going to change in the rules or the block chain. No censorship is going to take place on the blockchain, property rights will remain and the only changes that can be made are to the front ends. This is like putting on different colors of sunglasses but the reality is not every really changed. If you want to wear the sunglasses that work best for you go out and find them, buy them or make them. Stop bitching about other peoples sunglasses. If you are a sunglasses maker don't try to please everyone or care if some people don't like yours.
I see this whole thing as an evolution and it continually builds on itself sometimes better sometimes worse, but some people feel so intellegent that they think they can see the end game and want to skip everything in the middle. If that is the case they should go and do it themselves. I am tired of every little mistake and every advancement being made into such a big deal. This whole thing is an experiment and a process. Enjoy the journey and stop trying to be Captain buzz kill know it all and telling everyone where the destination and back seat driving every little mistake or bump in the road. Especially if you are providing absolutely zero positive development to the community other than bringing your money on board.
Thank you so much for taking the time. I really appreciate what you wrote and I hope everyone takes a good look as you have made many good points.
As we move forward I sense that both founders, developers, and investors are all finding a little appreciation for one another. After all everyone brings a little something different to the table. As long as that thing can be used to bake this cake, and move blurt in the right direction. I'm all for it.
There was only one name in my head when you wrote this line....
@wil.metcalf and @comet.ranker
He is going to a big positive force for good on this blockchain, you wait and see.
That is another thing I like about Blurt. There are moving parts all over the place. If something not so good is happening over there, meanwhile something great maybe happening over there.... People from around the world too...who knows who or what is going to come on the scene and propel the platform up the next level.
Anyway, thanks again. I for one am grateful for the investors we have and I'm looking forward to this place having many more.
It has been interesting watching your journey on blurt too. Your name caught me from the beginning and just watching as you came in with negative energy from hive, then the change to unease about blurt as things went sour, then the mitigater and then all in and still holding space for more positive conversations. Some will say the cult has charmed you but I think it is about seeing the potential in community. Where is perfect after all. I am sure that is how you feel about living in Thailand at times. It is really how I feel about living in Ghana at times, especially as everything goes to shit at times like right now. But then you look at the positives and remember it is all better then winter time in a cubical with a Karen manager or co-worker breathing down your neck. I think you brought up some very interesting points about culture in these conversations and it plays a bigger role than I would have imagined earlier in these conflicts. It even was a big part of why the German community left is that we all view these interactions based upon our perspective in the world we know. Some of it may not be acceptable to what we hold true and that can be said for every player involved. Each are reacting and dealing with differences with the tools at their disposal and it does not reflect upon intelligence (emotional or traditional) which I find so annoying.
We can all take a deep breath try to walk a mile in the others shoes and realize we all would (hopefully) like the same thing and no one has a perfect answer of how to get blurt to > $1. And just because someone sees a golden path in a different direction does not make them evil or a daft sheep.
Also no one is forcing anyone to be here, if you have a problem with where blurt is going under its current leadership and feel your investment has been wasted. Take some personal responsibility also of realizing your research into your investment is shit and does not reflect your personal values, take your hit, pick up your pants and go home. It does not mean that it can't meet the goals of someone else. That is why I am often not taking such an active role in governance. Blurt fulfills a purpose I can earn 14% on my bp if I put in the work each day. I can earn more if I post and it is interesting to others. Yes it is is annoying that other shit posts get more rewards than mine at times, but each has their path, their day will not last forever. I can tweak my style to appease the voting sentiment (some might call this wearing a mask, others good marketing), I can stick it out until the tide turns that my content is more interesting to others (some might call this authentic self, others might call it stupid and not knowing how to play the game), or I can fight and kick and scream about it being unfair. Life is not fair do we really expect a utopia with people hiding behind internet names with the same real world people with the same collective trauma. It really is not that big of a deal and by making it such you are being hypocritical and part of the problem of low blurt price intentions or not.
Right....my trip since arriving on Blurt has been a F-ed up one to say the least. Like a cattipilar that turned into an travel pro butterfly! hahaha But to many I'm probably more like a moth. lol
You speak with some serious clarity on the issue. You ability to understand people, communication, and put your self in other's shoes shoe s a real high level of intelligence.
I hope other's read this as just about anyone can find something positive and logical to take from it. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and hope you are having another great day in Ghana!
On another note now that the internet is cooperating with me and I have a better understanding of what is going on with blurt.blog; browsing the trending page is a very different experience and strangely refreshing.
I have seen posts that are popular in other circles and cultures. Often the whale culture here and on other sites dictate a particular view of similar content. This trending algo has broken away from that and maybe there is a place for it along side other perspectives. Just once again perhaps it could have been communicated better or another options for us to choose.
It may even mean that I would not make that trending page as often. When at the farm today and hoeing I was thinking about that and though that perhaps the more votes algo would favor me because of my target audience of a lot of smaller accounts on #blurtAfrica. But clearly there are some bigger fish in this new sea with greater followings that I didn't even know or expect to see. Could mean new horizons, goals or challenges. Change is hard for many but not always bad or censorship. I think some people are butt hurt about this because they though they learned the rule of the game and how to play it to their advantage. But this is next level and new ways to play. You have other platforms where you still can play the same old. Stop crying and evolve.
With the history and dynamics around here. Absolutely. There should have been some sort of announcement made that they will be experimenting for such and such reasons...I could have helped with that....if there was message I missed it.
You make some good points. Especially changes that can be for good while separating us from the other platforms, especially in a way that is appealing for the level one user. Encouraging growth there is always something to keep in mind, just from a business perspective alone.
G. Put a settings tab with a dropdown list with filter option to posts with high value, high number of upvoters, and high number of comments, whereas the default is the higher value of the post.
But really I do not know, who goes to the trending and hot will just be based on the belief, ideology, value, judgment, and decision of the frontend owners. however tinkering on the frontend trending and hit pages has its cons to the ones that are affected because they are basically censored off because they lose exposure which all of us wants for maximum gain of our blogs @world-travel-pro 👍
That is what we plan on doing. For that, we need to build a separate API that can serve posts according to these criteria. The API on the Blurt nodes do not currently have these options. So by having a separate API for this, we can tweak things until we have it how we like it and then either incorporate that functionality into Blurt nodes or just continue using the separate API on its own.
The API will be open-source, so that anyone can audit the code, contribute to the code, or even run their own instance of it.
As the discussions on Blurt continued for some time centred on the person in question, this person began to see himself in a giant mirror, and irreversibly inflated his ego. As a result of being a balloon, he started to fly. Since he has no steering mechanism, he has surrendered to the wind!
In my opinion, he has no fault, it is those who focus the discussions and the big blurt blockchain on him who make the mistake.
This survey will inflate him even more and I think he will go into space. I wish he would disappear there, but those who choose to be destructive instead of constructive will never disappear!
Frankly, I have to say that I find even the survey wrong and I will not decide on any option. I do not understand that those who invest heavily in Blurt focus Blurt on one person.
None of what they do is constructive, it is all about being destructive. One person alone is nothing. Just like me, if I leave here quietly, no one will even know! The person in question is the same, those who hug him with 4 hands today should know that; they are harming the entire blurt blockchain.
I'm sorry, but the survey is not valid for me, because it focuses on the person in question.
Completely agree
You can judge me through your filter - i.e how you would be in the same situation - but you are incorrect pertaining to myself..
...hate to break it to ya- no ego involved.
One persons perception of destruction is not fact- it's a subjective perception.
I see my contribution to the chain as CONSTRUCTIVE.
( I don't do anything for negative outcomes - I'm not built like that).
....the fact that I have such a crazy amount of attention - from 'the authorities' - speaks not to any power that I have - but of HOW WEAK they are...which is very different.
I'm sorry!... but this subject has become very boring. You're never satisfied with anything, you're intransigent and difficult. It's clear from what you've written and I don't think you're thinking about the chain.
On the contrary, when I check your account, I see you're exploiting the chain. You'll say it's my money and I can withdraw it whenever I want! You are right... but it is also my right to "say" when there is a contradiction between action and rhetoric, pretending to think about the chain!
A little patience won't hurt. The changes here will affect everyone positively or negatively, not just you! And what is being done/wanted to be done is for all of us!
You love blurt even if you don't like it and criticise it, because you know that you can speak the way you want even in the worst conditions here.
Do you think they would make you talk this much in other blockchains? Would you be valued? You should appreciate these things and you owe it to everyone here to fix as much as you've destroyed!
I'm not going to turn this into a polemic, so I won't leave any more comments than this, but you have the right to reply, you should know that if you reply I will read it! but there will be no reply!
I think that is a great response. As a witness and previously self appointed mediator of the platform! haha
Combined with numerous people on both sides mentioning me and wishing for me to address the issue.
So I did.
And that will be all from me on this topic and this person going further. Guaranteed....because frankly. I agree very much with you.
I like you and your temperament. If I have a problem and I need a mediator, there's no one better than you.
Thank you for your contribution.
Thanks for this post, Dan!
Blurt has, to some degree anyway, a reputation of reduced censorship. It's one reason I blog and invest here. If we don't have downvotes because we disagree with censorship, let's make sure we don't bring in any other forms of censorship! We aren't setting ourselves apart from other blockchains if we're only sometimes against censorship.
Attacking Lucylin in any way shows the attacker doesn't understand the "problem" (if there even is one). Lucylin is actually nothing special. People like that exist, as unique as you want to imagine he is, deep down he's not. If you get rid of him, you will find others just like him, and you'll never be done banning/censoring.
Lucylin is not the problem, and neither are other people who test limits. We NEED those kind of people. Unless he's actually breaking the rules (whatever that means), or trying to hack the blockchain, or spamming posts/comments in such a way that it ruins the experience for others, then what is the problem? Inventing new ways to censor/block/mute/ban people is reprehensible, for any reason. Those who wish can mute him, and never have to see him again, and that's fine. Advocating any form of censorship, even if it's just against a single "problem" user, is 100% hard limit for me.
(Obligatory note... yes of course, some extreme content must be censored for legal reasons, and I believe that to be mostly justified. But people posting merely "rude" or "insulting" or "hateful" content should NOT be censored.)
I agree with you about 2 wrongs not making a right. I don't really look at Trending or Hot. But I agree they should not be manipulated artificially by insiders. Such corruption should be left to low-level scam websites and 3chan... Can we not be better than that? Make rules for what gets something on Trending and Hot, and stick to them, don't take people out of the running for political reasons. Nasty!
It's great nobody is getting downvoted to zero, but we have to do a little better than that! It's like spitting on somebody and saying "at least I didn't shoot you". You point to some legitimate upsides of Blurt, which are all great, but I don't see how that means this is a nothingburger. Cenorship is pure evil and must not be allowed, not even in small degrees, which is always how it begins.
"I do not believe it is in anyone's best interest to have day after day trending posts about how much blurt and certain top people here suck"
Is the problem the criticism, or the people/things the criticism is aimed at? Instead of quelling dissent, locate the real issue and deal with it. If people have complaints, it's likely those complaints are legitimate. You will never silence all the critics one by one with censorship (or algo tweaks). The only way to do that is find out what will make them happy, and see if that can be accomplished.
Put me down for Option A!
Thanks again for this excellent post.
I totally get what you are saying, and agree too. But at this stage of the game .005 cents! Lets make progress easier not harder. I believe a lot of what people want from me as witness is "pro business" equally as "pro principles". But we need a pro business rescue plan at this point. So that's where I lean at the moment.
I agree and have never stated anything in support of this. However I will direct you to the comments by Imran and @megadrive on this post. In short explaining there is no finished decision of trending page algos, it's also about the UVPU issue, and it's not all about Lucy....but I'm sure it is to a decent extent. Philosophically, not cool, but on a personal ground level, I still don't approve, but I can understand.
Hahahaha....haven't heard that one before but I like it!
The problem is the communication tactics. I'd consider Lucy's tactics the complete opposite of constructive criticism...something that Imran the other day says is useful and welcome. I'm telling you guys. The top people here a not "bad", they are just not good with a western insulting slangy aggressive style communication, especially when it's aimed to humiliate. It totally throws them off. It's evident by what we've seen over the many months. I really believe this is the true core problem month after month here on Blurt, and it has stifled progress big time. As the (constructive) critics of the platform it's important to not only accept but understand who we are working with, or we can forget getting the results we hope for. We're just not gonna get anywhere expressing out thoughts and opinions in a offensive way. Just how it is for now.
Not to drone up. But are you more motivate to help me out if I say.....I'm cold will you please close the window? Or
Why the fuck did you leave the window open you dumb piece of shit. Don't you know we are wasting electricity and I'm fucking cold. You think money grows on trees? What the fuck is wrong with you close the damn window you dumb fuck.
I believe this kind of rhetoric has been a problem for a while now.
Thanks you so much for taking the time. Vote A! tallied!
Hope you and your family are having a great day!
100% accurate assessment!
..the little tykes in the blurt cabal just keep on keep trying, don't they...?...lol
As far as the trending page is considered there are several points that needs to be discussed.
The changes made to the Blurt.blog are not only because of Lucylin but also with respect to Vote Trading Services such as Upvu.
The trending page is ruled by posts that are voted by these vote trading Services which is unfair to other users who work hard to produce quality content and get frustrated because they can't reach the top of the trending page.
And yes Ctime, MK and a few others vote content by Lucylin and such filth doesn't look good on the trending page. Ctime, MK and others have the right to vote on any kind of posts and I personally have no issues with them exercising their right.
The current changes made to the Blurt.blog trending page doesn't blacklist any user's vote. Some users might think that posts voted by them are being censored or blacklisted but that is not the case.
As explained by Blurt Dev Tekraze in a previous post the trending page used to take the vote value in consideration and vts such as Upvu have huge stakes and these posts used to get 2-3 big votes and land on trending page. The current settings take number of votes into consideration not vote value.
For a page to reach the top trending page I think (this is my opinion and not the teams) it should consider the number of votes, the vote value, the number of Reblurts and then the number of comments a post has received.
Since we are a Decentralised community I believe (my opinion) that the trending page shouldn't be ruled by one user such as Upvu. It should be a collective effort.
Why collective effort is needed? (My opinion) If only one or two people (vts) control the trending page then it's no fun. A group of people putting in efforts to bring quality post up means a lot and brings the community together.
According to Tekraze they are still trying to find the best way to update the trending page.
Hopefully with the suggestions from users I think we can have a dynamic trending page that will help showcase the best of the best posts that are not voted by a bot.
Then please change the algorithm to infringe only VTS and not normal curators such as @mmmmkkkk311 or @mariuszkarowski
I just looked at the trending page, and it's seems to be pretty clear that it is set by the number of votes period. So that would make everyone's vote equal regardless of Blurt Power, including MK, or whoever. I'm not sure where all the confusion came from about MK's vote being not counted then. I think it was poor communication on Tekraze's post or something.
I'm actually pretty happy with that. It has nothing to do with censorship, in fact it puts the most "clicked" posts up front. It decentralizes power too. This seems like a good thing to me.
set by tomoyan voting trail, just another crazy dev joke
tomoyan good, megadrive good, tekraze good, soudugar good but, but but ctime, upvu is bad
I see... Thanks for pointing that out.
Bingo! Trending should be influenced by collective engagement and not by single individuals or entities.
I'm happy to see that attention is being given to the improvement of the trending page on your front end. We don't need to be falsely Identified as UPVU Korea like another site I know ;)
I'm all for having the trending page being created through a mix of factors. However @mariuszkarowski does raise a concern if it can just be totally gamed by vote trails.
I clearly understand that you guys are testing things out and playing around with different algos or what have you. I don't see anything wrong with that for time being. In fact I'll be reserving any judgement until you guys have chosen go with one thing or another. Maybe that would be a good idea for others to do as well.
Furthermore, if the final decision is not how I would do things. I'm fully capable to politely agree to disagree knowing this is by far not a be all and end all issue for reasons stated in this article, and respecting that it's your website.
Since being a witness I'm more aware than ever all the time effort that goes on behind the scenes. So keep up the great work and #letsgrowblurt!
I don’t mind that but they must have changed it since our previous argument as my much lower vote post got on tTending over a higher one. So I’m assuming this has been changed since the discussion. Also it means ppl can just get hundreds of votes for random Tiny accounts and get on. At least with stake or a mix of stake votes are made carefully
;)
read my comment above
Either they change the algorithm or they simply don't want to...
they are censoring publications contrary to what they think, it was simple as modifying the algorithm and requesting to exclude Upvu, but we know that with this they only want to hide the strong publications that are against all the absurd things they do, Blurt is now full of censorship.
We all
Know this is purely just to silence Lucy Lin I’m sick of How they are willing to run the site into the ground just for this one user
It's quite amazing, uh?
It doesn't speak to my power_ - in the slightest.
But is DOES shout out - in 300 decibels - about their weakness.
Great advertisement for potential investors...(sarc)
These kind of statement are jacked up, and meant to jack up others. Get little dirt devil of negative drama spinning around in people head.
You may feel that way,
But one, they have not finished playing with different settings. They've stated they are testing different things. Since you are totally biased troll666, you will ignore this entirely and assume they are full of shit. And that is fine.
Secondly, you've got two other main front ends that are growing in popularity that have zero activity of this nature going on.
Third, we are still clearly in building early stage mode here on Blurt, I'm eager to see what new freedom of speech front ends come online.
Even if this is all to twist in the wind over a single user. That's not good, but it's not the end of the world here on Blurt.
You have no idea how this will pan out (for blurt)...
If I had the motive of limiting only specific users, they would not be even able to post here and if post Even get seen here.
How difficult is to completely hide someone, not that much.
But why we are not doing or have done yet, because we are working on fixing logics, that were done like years ago in steem but never fixed.
So, they should be asked first why they think its a way to censor them and not seeing that it's actually a try to improving the logics.
So, now not upvu but tomoyan (voting trail) decides who gets to trending, fucking joke. If you and your crazy friend don't like posts from trending then buy more BLURT and power up. So simple. Stop manipulations. Everything on this blockchain is "stake based", trending too
anyways https://blurtlatam.com/trending/@mariuszkarowski/trending-organic-trending
You can start your own frontend. Doesn't cost much these days.
My suggestions and views are up there and I suggest that a mix of everything should be considered for trending just to be fair towards you (an Investor) and towards a quality content creator.
how easy it is to send someone else to create a frontend, preventing investors from having a say. That is the mix that should exist between investors and developers. But it is notorious that you only want to censor your opponents. The excuse that others create, you talk about decentralization and you do not leave room for those who think differently, you just censor them or isolate them from the entire platform.
Of course you are a trained dog and now well paid by the foundation, that's why now you dedicate yourself to demean everyone else, since you are paid now you seek to respond in all topics trying to say that only their ideas are good.
Absolutely othw wise what do we have 10005 front ends lol. At some point ppl need to compromise plus the coin value affects all the front ends
See people who run the frontends often keep features that they like. Some people decided to use Blurtlatam, some decided to use Blurt Live and the rest use Blurt blog.
Each frontend has its own features but all are maintained by one person. My reasoning for suggesting MK to start their own frontend is that they can at least bring a different developer.
And I'm getting tired of these silly fights and name calling. I appreciate MK apologizing for his language.
Let's move past these fights and bring strategies to bring Blurt's price up.
You say that having diversity is good, but immediately you tell me that if I want to be able to express myself freely that I should go and do my own shit because in your front end or in the megadrive front end I won't be able to do it, that seems to me the reasoning that every person who wants to express ideas, have strong votes will have to develop their own front end and keep dividing everything just because some useless people don't accept criticism. Blurt is at a low price just because of their bad decisions and the absurd war they have against 4 people. And the bad habit of wanting to belittle others. How easy it is to create a whassap group and be free there, create a frontend and be free there, in blurt live and blurt blog we will censor you.
This is toxic thinking, once again. "war"....we are trying to move forward here...some more than others. Let's talk about "peace" and coming together so we can all be winners here. Maybe that is biggest problem with Blurt since day one. People get all jacked up and being uncivil with one another. This would never happen so easily in the real business world of face to face meetings. Key board warriors for the LOSE....
You guys rly need to stop accusing every investor of trying to attack blurt tho just cause they are thinking of cashing out. It is their stake and they can do what they want with it. Other than that I totally agree we need to all try and work together and focus on making blurt great again 🤣
Cult behavior:
Criticize and attack anything that questions the cult.
This is a well documented psychological phenomenon
One thing I appreciate about Blurt since day 1 is that one is shamed or stopped from powering down and selling their stake. Everyone is free to do whatever they wish to do with their stake.
I don't think where you got this idea. Anyways, I'm off to bed now.
I don't think you are a "trained dog" Imran! Hahaha....
I'm glad you have the ability to not let that counter productive language jostle you. After all, he goes by troll 666 lol.
Agree!
We don't need to get bogged down in minor stuff like this.
Would the team be interested in resetting the trending page to how it was if Lucy stops posting disparaging stuff, or MK and CTime stop pumping it to trending?
Or this something that has been planned on for a while, as UPVU and it's manipulation of the trending page has been a topic of concern for a long time anyway?
...remember all those posts about 'evil hive' ?
Nietzsche said:
if you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you..
(beyond good an evil)
What did Nietzsche mean by 'staring into the abyss?'
...He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
...if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.
Essentially, it’s a warning – Be careful when fighting “evil” that you yourself don’t become evil in the process.
I feel 'a change in the force...'
I don't know if the team will be interested or not and I don't want to go and ask.
But certainly more experiments will be conducted until a better trending page is achieved. The end goal is to have a better trending page that reflects the efforts of the community.
....the price of selling your soul and all integrity comes cheap nowadays, it seems...
I can say same thing about buying more BLURT
I do buy it. It's pretty cheap right now.
Travel Pro Mediator Says: Thanks for not using the C word when addressing each other! This is progress! lol 🥳
we are on a platform where you generate content to generate money. Therefore the trending page must show the best valued publications. It is notorious that this only seeks to censor the strongest votes of the ecosystem, but wait a minute that is not true the strongest votes are owned by the foundation. What is correct here is that to boost the content and the trending page is to give positive votes from the foundation and stop the nonsense.
You say you are not part of the foundation and you receive payments from them. Currently you have dedicated yourself to belittle anyone who thinks differently as a trained dog, obviously after receiving payments as you are going to release that.
Back to the point.
It is notorious for any self respecting programmer to set up a test project, and not make these changes in production. Which means they made these changes without notification hoping no one would notice, but surprise surprise, it backfired. And now they just want to justify that the strong votes should not be on the trends page, when the reality is that they should vote more with the foundation votes and reverse those effects. But the idea is to be able to eliminate from the trending page everything that is contrary to their ideas.
Sorry I just can't take anything serious from someone that is totally anonymous and goes by "Troll666"
One Image, 1000 Words?
I don't know how to come to any solid conclusions looking at this. I don't know what deals have been made, and specifically what work is has been done. To expect people to build and maintain a platform like this for charity or something along those lines does not make sense.
Who says that the resentful soudugar does not receive payments from the foundation? even I go out to defend the foundation if they turn me into the tame dog, which is dedicated to respond to all those who think differently. Don't take my name seriously but what I say has full truth.
I said I'm not a developer for Blurt. I don't do coding or programming for Blurt. I do other stuff that is not related to programming.
You can go and check my comments for the last two years or so. I am the same I was.
Sorry about that. Ooops. But it is changed, no dev. Just witness and blurt.live creator int he opening paragraph. Won't forget it next time. Again my sincere apologies.
You got to chill, and give time to see where the chips fall. These are frustrated people, not used to being at the brunt of this guys jokes on a daily basis. Things will work themselves out. To expect high level professionalism may be setting the bar a bit too high here on Blurt. But the founders and such have come a long way for us to be able to enjoy a downvote free platform like we have can have discussions like this without self censoring in fear of having our blog income destroyed. Lets leave a mountain a mountain and a mole hill and mole hill.
Are you on here as another account? But this is your 666 troll account, so stink doesn't stick where you don't want it?
This was the case from the beginning I believe - so there really is no 'come a long way'...in this regards.
The whole thing reeks, as does 'suggestions' by new witnesses...v. disappointing..
I think that is a great response. Thank you for adding so much and sharing such details with the rest of us. To me this is a confidence builder! Thank you! I too believe the trending page needs to take things into account like # of comments and sheer number of up-votes.
This can’t be rh case as my post with only 6 upvotes and 4 dollars and no comments was on trending but not my post with 5 dollars odd and several comments and 21 upvotes or something. It doesn’t make sense.
@world-travel-pro Clarification: I'm not a Blurt Dev @Tekraze is. Please update the post.
I'm a top witness and my team and I built Blurt.live and other stuff but I don't work as a Developer for Blurt.
Thank you 😇
Right, not the first time I got that mixed up. My bad. I'll edit that now.
I'm still waiting for this update.
I changed it right away in the first paragraph. Is there something else I'm missing?
It's cool now.
blurt.blog is like hive.blog for Hive blockchain, the main frontend, the face of the blockchain. Imagine Blocktrades is manipulating trending page on Hive and censoring users because he don't like them. He is using downvotes, same effect but it's legit, it's in the blockchain code
Exactly.
You can't own 'the frontend' of the main face of platform - and then operate it from a personal angle at the same time.
VERY unprofessional.
Very juvenile.
Very bad for the platform.
But it seems like you can own the main front end and do what you think is best with it. Even if others think it's worst.
But if we work together and gained respect from one another, maybe things would be different.
But never mind....there is no point in working with a libtard...you can only...blah blah blah blah.
All good matey. Feels good to get off the pot. Thanks for the encouragement. lol
I find your very observable change of perspective - and linguistic style - quite fascinating, matey.
Definitely post worthy ! ..lol
Interesting times ahead, that's for sure !
Welcome to I lost my shirt, and I have nothing left to lose....hahaha
Glad we can still laugh at each other and be our selves.
But I'm dead serious about making this platform grow and the price. So I caught some of your other comments and it's seems like you are gonna help aid in creating some fun content, that doesn't highlight the suck. Thank you for that.
I'm trying to clean up the suck the best I can. Your support would be appreciated.
"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again, but already it was impossible to say which was which."
Re🤬eD
For Fans like Baah ⛏️
Because 🥓🔥
Awesome! Thank you 🥓
My answer...A
Apart from that im keeping out of this one...
This one is a bit stinky and smelly. hahaha I don't blame you. But thank you for picking an answer ;)
Since I am still new here, I am careful what I write here because I can not justice about users who are longer here.
I think only posts that have good quality should get into the trending section. Maybe the number of views within maybe 24 hours and not the number of votes should decide if one gets into the trendings.
Hey welcome to Blurt. Thanks for participating in the survey. A new fresh eyes perspective is always welcome here. Hope you share your thoughts on any future survey posts. Thanks again for taking the time!
I also heard about some vote trading services. What is it for? Is it good for a user to be a part of that? I am asking because I am naive of some things in the site
I'm not for it, but people are free to do what they want.
Question: Why are they 'tinkering' with those pages at all?
See Imran's comment above.
ok, thanks mate!🙏
F: @lucylin should make nice with his adversaries and be promoted and rewarded as he focuses on creating great funny content that everyone can enjoy, and maybe one day become official Blurt Mascot!
-scratch that "everyone" can enjoy. We all know that's never gonna happen...but I regress...
I love a come back, right now a lot of people are turned off by him lately. I think it would be amazing to see a real positive gung-ho lets make this place great, lets work together, lets work with what we've got change of attitude. I'd love to see him accept people how they are and move on. I'd love to see him in a constructive light rather than destructive.
I'd be in his corner big time if he came full circle like that.
Probably wishful thinking, so my second choice would be...
D: All of the Above
Also as a side note. I have not been able to use blurtlatam after trying several times over the past couple weeks, everytime I click post, it goes to a blank white page and nothing happens.
They wanted to make these changes without notifying people, hoping they would not notice. It's not only about excluding upvu, the Algorithm could have excluded the posts containing your vote and that's it. But now the crybaby soudugar says that he was offended and should not see those posts, but it's not about that resentful faggot. It's about there being a majority who want that content to be shown freely.
They have already decided. They will not listen to anyone, as always.
https://blurtlatam.com/trending/@mariuszkarowski/trending-organic-trending
Hey who you calling faggot!? lol I'll f^ck your ass and make you humble. hahaha
But seriously....in some ways you're way funnier than Lucy!
I understand your concern and I'm not trying to make light of everything. But there is no harm in giving them the benefit of the doubt, and ofcourse they are at least partially reacting to Lucy's disparaging posts being on trending. Isn't it to be expected at this point? That's why I've been saying, lets work together, instead of trigger people out of a thinking state and into a reactionary state.
As always we are mostly in complete agreement.
I could say I wish lucylin would tone down his posts, but I don’t think anyone should force him, unless he’s defaming people or their jobs, when they should cease and decist, nor should Marius be told who he can and can’t upvote. my main point is that as I said in comments I wish the team would stop giving him so much focus and keep making all these changes to the site just to drop his posts down or hide his posts cause it’s making him like you said probably the most known person on tbe chain and ruining the site for everyone else. It’s pushed off other users and investors so the posts go even higher as all it takes is one big vote. At this point lucylin has completely won, he has the full, undivided attention of the whole team. Do I think some of his posts go to far? Yes but People’s obsession with silencing him and thinking all investors choosing what to do with their own stake are out to ‘get blurt’ despite having put in hundreds and thousands of their own money into the platform has dropped the value considerably and is down right ludicrous.
I think people are so sensitive and triggered and can’t see they are behaving the same way lucylin is/ it’s like a projection two way mirror of both sides on a man hunt to silence the other side or to win/ stay in control and have things exactly as they want them.
You know what makes something go away? Not fighting all day long to get rid of it, putting all your attention on it at the expense of all else..// ignoring it!!!!!
I agree with some of what you said and I completely understand that.
Let's focus on bringing more users on Blurt and let's bring back the price.
We can do that when the team stop putting al their focus on ways to silence one user. I think I speak for a lot of ppl when I say we are sick of it. lol
They stopped a long time ago. You just came back here now. Lol
The team is busy with marketing and listing and other stuff. Hopefully everything will work out as planned.
Come on lol at least be honest. I can’t actual respect people till they can actually man up and admit the truth. There is no way that nsfw/ coal list / trending list hasn’t been done with some thought for lucylin. I respect people are listening finally I feel and mega drive has rly changed and been far more mature lately but at least be honest don’t treat us like we are stupid.
COAL list has been around since a long time before Lucy arrived on Blurt. NSFW has been around at work since a long time. As a platform owner the team has to look out for possible rule/law violations and it can be serious thing with laws and stuff. Development doesn't happen quickly. There are a lot of things to update and it takes time. Let's say that it was planned a long time ago and it happened now.
The trending page thingy is a new addition though.
MegaDrive and the team has always been working behind the scenes. Dan is a witness now and he can tell you the kind of work the team keeps on doing. Running a Decentralised platform requires a lot of development expertise and the Dev team and the witnesses are always working to make Blurt better.
Right now there are a few exciting things getting discussed and if everything goes as planned then we'll see some good things on Blurt. Can't reveal anything now. Lol
That's not to even mention maintaining relations with exchanges and all sorts of other random stuff that comes up. Frankly it's quite impressive. @tekraze @saboin, and many others always seem to be dealing with something that you basically need 4 years of education for. Some of these things are way over my head.
It's funny cause some people would prefer to believe that I'm slowly becoming some puppet of the mega crowd. But in fact I've been following the private witness chat, and it's frankly impressive. To not have a new appreciation for what they do would almost be weird, callus, and ignorant of me. You guys are clearly putting all sorts of effort into many different moving parts, and I can't help but have a new appreciation for it.
Dan and I pretty much agree on every single thing and talk often, so I don’t think we vary, he is just a little calmer in the way he speaks cause he’s a guy and weed is legal in Thailand 🤣🤣
They legalized weed just in time for the bear market! lol
Certainly helps ;)
I know this to be true, and there is more to come, that even you don't know about ;)
...not as sick of it, as I am.
...that's the entire reason - and motivation behind - me now doing my own website(s)...
As the old (two ronnies?) clip goes - "don't come running to me when you break your legs"....
...."don't blame me for creating my own website and doing things better, when you're doing everything you can to push me off this one..."
I have won nothing.
I have shown up the weaknesses of the system - and the weakness of the individuals involved in running the system.
Nothing more.
My posts on here regarding 'my adversaries with no brains' will soon be halted (pretty much).
My posts on here will soon be of a very different nature - altogether.
The real free market (not the quasi socialist one here) will be the one to decide this for me.
Congratulations bro. Great for business! Lets keep highlighting these weaknesses until price the price is .000005! 🙌
You know what, lets start a mega moron ad campaign! That will surely be good for the price and platform!
Like seriously....What are you trying to do here?
> C: @ctime and @mariuszkarowski should stop up-voting Lucy's disparaging posts to trending.
Oh, so now you think that somehow, you are in a position to advise massive shareholders on what to do with there voting power?
(Does the 'guru advisor to @ctime and @mariuszkarowski ' hat, come with the witness one ? lol)
You do actually realize what it is that you've just said ?
...well, obviously you haven't...
Ouch.
Bit of a wannabe dictator in disguise, are we? lol
Trying to tell people what to do with their own property ?
...not only was that really stupid - and poor_politics - it might end costing you a lot more than you realize.
G: Fill in the blank _____________
....Does anyone think that not up voting world travels pro's vapid, boring, and inane posts about not a lot except the price of bread - is a good idea?....
....it's not like they add any real value to the blockchain, is it ?
See how this works?
...it's all new to me - I've never posited this to anyone, about another persons account, telling them what to do... not in 5 years of blockchain
Thanks, matey...
oh dear..
Calling someone an idiot, even the mega moron stuff etc or calling out behaviour doesn’t bother me. I think most ppl should be able to laugh at that as it’s not personal but I definitely wasn’t keen when you started dragging Imran’s personal work life onto posts or bestikios religion etc it’s going too far when these ppl have pretty much left you alone. I can see the hypocrisy in religion too but it’s not for me to judge if people have a faith. I think writing swear words and sexual comments on his posts was uncalled for imo as there is something called respect. It’s kind of like going to visit your grandma in a jacket covered in dicks and vaginas, yes we can do it but something in us knows unless our gran is one of those super fun grans it’s probably just going to offend them for no benefit to ourselves. I’m not saying you can’t do it, I am saying I don’t support it and was what stopped me supporting your posts. Having said that we agree on how the core team run blurt absolutely. I’m sick of this we are always the victim rather than taking responsibility attitude. That even investors get the blame lol if they want to cash out their own money.
https://blurt.blog/witness/@practicalthought/rhl7bu
Thanks for dropping the link...