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How can he text someone we don’t have anyone on text? I really don’t know what someone can do beyond mentioning it multiple times, asking if they can arrange a call and getting her to go on and make a post and outline who she is etc. This is someone in the real world, who is a professional of course at this point she’s likely lost all interest and just thinks it’s really unprofessional. People aren’t like that in business they say let’s jump on a call and then a call is arranged. I’m sure she’s well over helping at this point. I mean I specifically saw him ask so many times and really try to get in front of the witnesses who could assist and I could just see how uninterested anyone was to chase it up. I really wouldn’t care if someone gave her time, spoke to her and decided it wasn’t right for blurt but the opportunity was just literally ignored then someone immediately gets handed 700 dollars to make some shoes of course it looks bad. She was doing it really as a favour because it was interesting to her and she has family on blurt. She doesn’t need work or anything it was up to someone to actually look a bit interested in pursuing it. To me it’s insane blurt would just totally ignore the opportunity of a top marketing professional helping them but just give money to someone to make some sandals without question. It’s like no one gets any input in decision making of how the fund is used, it’s just md choosing who he likes it seems to me.

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Good thing that the whole conversation is recorded and it is available on YouTube. I showed ample interest.

He should have contacted me at least when his cousin decided to join Blurt.

You are just obsessing over this. If WTP wanted MD on call with his cousin how much time does it take him to text me?

And if course he and I have had a few conversations on Discord a few times so he knows that I am available and respond.

You guys can still write a proposal and come up with a plan. I don't know who his cousin is and how big her clients are.

At this point I am just repeating what I have said multiple times. There's nothing that I can add to this conversation now.

All I suggest is that you approach this topic again if she's interested and see how it goes.


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There is a video talking to the witnesses ( just one of about 3 instances I saw @world-travel-pro bring it up) and he definitely said can you guys arrange a call. How can she get in front of someone? She then even made a post about herself. Why was there no call? I think it’s obvious she can’t call anyone without a number or contact details. That’s the time to say oh you can email here : call here : contact us here etc. I’m sure you’ll find in about 3 times of him mentioning her interest there wasn’t one contact detail given for her to actually engage with someone or anyone that chased it up after the call. She’s not in the private discord so she can’t just chat about it in there.

I’ve just never seen anyone but you personally ( you have supported things and are the only witness I have acrually seen doing it but it’s always from your own pocket it seems anyways) support the people I see doing loads for blurt either, projects directly for blurt don’t even rly get an upvote from md to help fund them let alone any funding. I think ppl just get tired of doing it after a bit when they get no support. I saw clix ask about prOposals endless times too and he even made posts about them and they just always came to a bit of a dead end. I think just a few nice upvotes would have helped a bit even.
I am honestly so dissapinted to see money being thrown at the shoe thing and no one else even getting proper conversations or even supportive upvotes really from witnesses outside of yourself for community based projects. Anyways I’m kind of tired of arguing about it all really and will just get on with posting but I lost a lot of respect for people when I saw that along with other things like freezing accounts it definitely drains ones motivation. A lot of people came here really wanting to help this place build and giving it a lot of time and effort and it just doesn’t feel good. The shoe thing rly rly dissapointed me honestly after seeing people trying to get proposals through for months. It just makes you think what else got thrown money at here without anyone knowing or having a chance to vote on.

I can't speak for what other witnesses did or did not do. But I was interested and I think WTP should have texted me whenever his cousin was interested to work with Blurt.

I have and I do participate and spend time in interacting with users so that we can improve.

It is not right to blame MD or other witnesses because I as a witness had shown interest and it was just a matter of informing me.

You are over reacting with the shoe thing. I know you are angry about the account freezing thing but it's not happening.



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  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

I was actually just as angry at the shoe thing sa the account freezing and they happened right together too. I have personally seen people try to get the attention of witnesses over and over about proposals, trying to find out how to do them, get them seen, talk about them. I have seen people make posts, like I said I saw WTP ask you on multiple calls not just one to line up a call with his cousin or a way for her to contact someone, knowing full well she isn't an active blurt blogger at that point and it all just fell on deaf ears. She can't text you she doesn't have your number and it was made very clear she was ready to jump on a call/ convo. If no one was getting proposals funded fair enough but when I see someone just strolls in and gets 700 dollars off the bat to make some sandals then yeah it's frustrating and annoying and feels like it's a very inner circle that gets any funding for anything and makes me wonder what on earth other money is thrown out at people all the time with none of us even having transparency of it or any say in it. I don't think anyone minds developing costs etc but these things should be public, even share holders can see where companies spend money and blockchain is supposed to be more transparent.

You just completely ignoring that I was interested and WTP should have contacted me.

Anyways... Moving forward.

I don't know anyone apart from ClixMoney who had some proposal. Clix wanted to ask Delegation for curating content and I was the one who encouraged him to write a proposal. I also informed him of the fact that the foundation doesn't give Delegations anymore because people misused them and if one is given then several others ask.

So, he had the right approach but it couldn't happen. Maybe WTP can learn from him about how to approach people and take an idea forward instead what he actually did.

I'm no longer participating in this conversation about WTP and his cousin. I feel I have given enough encouragement and support to his idea but to get blamed for his ignorance is not what I'm here for. He should have texted me, tagged me in a post or sent a pigeon whenever he had a proposal ready.



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  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

but he did !!! he came on about 3 video calls that I alone witnessed telling you about his cousin and asking to set up a chat, or to find a way to contact someone who could talk to her etc surely even you can see that that was something you needed to follow up on by giving wtp a contact detail or initiate setting up a video /zoom chat time. How can you expect someone to text you who doesn't have your number or any contact details. All it took to show interest was, yeah I will set up a video call get her to message me or the team here (insert contact detail). I watched this whole thing and it was clear as day no one was interested, I also saw clix money make about 3 posts about proposals that never really got anywhere but him just thinking to start the project he wanted to do himself and get on with blurt cast etc and even that never rly got any support and I saw him put hours and hours into it. I think even he has given up on it a bit now. I think it was pretty obvious it was very hard to get support from proposals.

You also haven't answered my question when I asked how many people were involved in passing the shoe proposal and how many people voted in favour of it. This isn't about shoes it is about transparency or rather lack of it.

I'm on discord and anyone can message/text me there.

I'll do my best to take the idea to the team. I have and I will help in anyway possible.

You can't really blame MD because WTP didn't text him on discord. It is not a secret that MD and the whole team is available on Blurt Official Discord.

Maybe WTP wasn't that interested in the idea to actually make an effort? I can go on and on and pin the whole blame on him or you or the whole world.

I do this for a living in real life. But I don't want to just push, blame and save myself.

People with ideas have a burning desire to spread it like wild fire and do everything possible to make it possible (Learn from Clix)

About Clix I have a plan in my mind and we will work it out once I have some free time.

About the shoe the core team was involved in the voting.


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So how many people and who voted on the shoes idea out of all other possible funding options?

Personally I think this way of funding projects is very dodgy and should be opened up to community voting with a Clear avenue to involve the community. I really have pretty much zero trust in the foundation personally at this stage and just feel hugely disappointed after seeing them just privately throw money at things and not even be transparent, even now … like who voted? How many ppl were involved? along wit this account freezing. I watched wtp try to hook his cousin up to benefit blurt and saw the complete lack of interest. I’m sure him and her felt it too as they all just gave up eventually, she wasn’t rly gaining anything out of it and it was more to help blurt and her family friend so it won’t be a lesson learnt for her.

This isn't personal to you out of any witness you absolutely supported these things and talked with people and spent hours of your time too but that seems to be where it ended and the people giving out the real help from the fund just never showed any interest. This was all you just personally helping or being apart of things as a human being not the foundation. I am actually pretty sure if you had the fund you would be proportioning it out somewhat more fairly and asking for peoples opinions on things. Maybe I am wrong but you always come across very fair to me.

And about the footwear thingy... It was the first time ever sw funds were given.

You may not like the idea but it is kind of a cool idea if it is implemented the way it has been planned.


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it's not about whether I like the idea or not, every single person I asked on blurt that I know personally didn't like the idea that much either but I mean if money was flowing, then yeah I would say sure throw some cash at things like this but it would be way way down my list. Thats just me personally and actually if 60 percent of blurt that voted on it, thought it was more important than advertising/ further developments etc etc then I would have supported it as I like democracy. I don't want my will to be heard over other peoples either what I like is fairness. What is fair is giving people a chance to vote on and know about what is funded, not just hear about it on the grapevine. What isn't fair is the inner circle just funding their friends and people they knows projects and no one else getting a look in or a say. @outofthematrix is a witness did you get asked about the shoe proposal and vote it in? I am just interested here how many people got a chance to clear this business proposal. Can you answer us that at least and say how many people were involved in choosing the shoe business to support above all other things?

I must be honest... No, I wasn't asked, but I am not the only witness and can only speak for myself!

Funny had a feeling you wouldn’t have been asked.