While Blurt doesn't have traditional decentralized downvotes like Steem and Hive where you can vote on content freely as a stake holder deciding what should and should not receive rewards, it does have downvotes just not how you may think.
Here Blurt founder clarifies what the COAL list is.
A centralized group of "wardens" can decide who is put on a list called the COAL list. This list by definition (Collaboratively Organised Abuse List) is for fighting abuse, much like downvotes are used on other platforms, but it is instead wielded to selectively decide who or who can't earn rewards.
With downvotes, each user can use their own stake to decide if a post should be rewarded more or less prior to payout. With the coal list, a handful of people get to decide.
Unlike downvotes, the coal list is for your entire account, and not decided on a post by post basis by individual stake holders.
As the founder @megadrive has stated, some users are allowed to be harassed and bullied, others are not. It is up to them to decide, not you the community.
For example, I was welcomed here with comments like this.
@megadrive says Blurt was largely formed by people I personally chased off Hive by downvoting them. As many know, I downvote spam, fraud, farming, and other abuse. Something I assume the COAL list would be used for, but according to a recent post, it can actually be used for anyone who harasses or bullies another user, if they deem you worthy of their protection.
While it is true, I don't need anyone's protection and I am perfectly capable of finding out how to mute a user, one of the things users who spam Hive about Blurt talk about is Blurt has free speech and no censorship due to the lack of downvotes yet has something far worse. In fact, as far as I remember the entire top witnesses are selected and put in place by the founders of Blurt exclusively (aka centralized).
This centralized coal list was developed out of the regret of removing the one thing that allows the community to deter abuse and created something that is more destructive and more centralized. @megadrive quickly figured out he needs some way to curve abuse since he didn't want downvotes, so instead of giving the community a decentralized way to mitigate abuse, he chose to wield the power himself and a few select people.
I find this ironic since the main marketing by frauds like @world-travel-pro and others is Blurt is about free speech (he mistakes removing rewards with censorship, but this is the same thing he is crying about, but worse) and freedom from downvotes.
This has been another fact based post by Marky.
Feel free to go back to your typical screeching from @world-travel-pro about pedophiles and satanists from his army of PI's he "hired".
You know what is another win for me....seeing you waste your time here....there is nobody here to market hive to, or convince to leave or sell blurt. Hive is the problem first of all, and hive is the pool big enough to take from. But your attempt I find complimentary and flattering so please keep it up.
Wait for my next comments on some trending posts on hive. Im gonna highlight what you did to cryptopie. Pure evil and everyone will know and see. Now go look in the mirror and thank yourself for making this all happen.
It’s amazing he must be spending hours and hours on a site he supposedly ‘hates’.
Why are u guys continuing to engage his posts?
As long as no ones robbing money and earnings from ppl, which they can’t here it’s fun and games.
Looks More like drama. Just being honest how it looks over here.
My personal grievances are freedom of speech and freedom of property. If ppl want to engage in a bit of drama that’s also freedom of speech. No one here is getting bullied unless they specifically mute someone and then the person continues to harass them. This is all personal choice if ppl want to not get involved I suggest they mute marky and everyone involved. Freedom to mute 🤣💪🏻
I don’t mind drama personally I do a whole quiz based on blurt drama lol I only care when people can be blacklisted or steal from others if it’s just banter everyone’s choosing to be involved and on some level enjoying it.
For the fun, drama and banter :) i personally love a few of outofthematrix memes to start the day off
Hahahaha....thank you! Finally Im getting some credit as the main marketer of blurt. You just never know what s gonna happen when you wrongfully down vote people off the platform. Bet you never thought your actions were going to create....the main marketer of blurt. Lol I told you satanic pedophiles several times....you dont know who I know and you don t know what I know. How much money and people do you think i pulled off of Hive now? How much of a hit to Hive s reputation have you all taken? It would never of happened if your crew never attacked me. You own this as much as I do if not more. You could have just talked to me...but nope, you like to play hardball...so hardball is what you get.
Tbh this is the most talking I’ve seen a hive downvoter do and it’s probably because on blurt you have to talk as you can’t just downvote. Normally it’s just F off and more downvotes. Nothing I’ve ever experienced is as toxic as that site was. Even these downvoters seem to behave more human on blurt when forced to communicate.
Absolutely. Great observation. This concept could certainly make for a great post.
Notice how it started with shit memes but because you can’t just spam shit memes, reply with one word answers and downvotes here marky has had to actually engage in some form of communication: it’s quitr intriguing how it’s developed.
But why are u guys engaging his posts? It’s only reason he’s posting.
I find it funny personally. Over on hive it’s different when they can effectively steal from you but here it’s just amusing.
And what’s up with this coal list? Is that all legit?
I feel ya but my brother
Ur engaging his posts. I thought u guys couldn’t stand him? Yet ur keeping his posts Alive here and that mega guy keeps upvoting mark here. Just a weird look From over here. Just mute the guy snd move on?
I think people find it amusing. The vibe is really not rage filled hate, more like court jester.. See how long it last.
I see where you’re going with this and you have made some good points tbh. Maybe a downvote button is needed, maybe it is not. Every good thing always comes at a cost and sometimes you will have to compromise one good thing to have another. In this case, the usefulness of the downvote button has been compromised and COAL, much as you hate it and think it is a centralized operation, is the replacement. It may not suit what you want, but it is what the community wants(at least in my opinion it is). Also, @megadrive doesn’t decide who is on the coal list or how long…
I believe I saw a post not long ago of one of the witnesses explaining how COAL is not permanent. Once you’re put on COAL, You can go through some procedures of apologizing to the community via a post on Blurt and as long as you actually stop whatever abuse you were involved with, you will be taken off COAL once again. I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty sure most people on Hive and Steemit would choose COAL if they had a choice between COAL or a downvote button.
You’re about fighting spam and abuse, I get that, but there’s more than the downvotes way to do that, and for Blurt, COAL is the alternative( for now). Upvoting quality and original would be another way to fight spam and abuse and a pretty good way to put your BP to good use. I hope you consider it, Blurt could use you as a curator.
Maybe once the community sees a more pressing reason that leaves us no other choice but to implement a downvote button, we’ll have one then( I doubt we’ll ever need it though)
He is going nowhere... He is trying to leach people back to Hive, trying to save a bit of his reputation. Hive doesn't suck - Marky sucks because he is a scummy downvoter and human waste. He downvotes people like me who don't lick his boots and comply with his crap over on Hive. The big stake holders on Hive are in on it together. THEY decide who lives and who dies on Hive. Take a good look at my profile! LINK BELOW
THE WHALE CIRCLE ON HIVE IS CENTRALIZATION IN ITS PUREST FORM !
Read this and form your own opinion: https://hive.blog/hive/@networkallstar/how-the-downvote-beast-themarkymark-is-ruining-this-ecosystem-while-his-own-posts-are-the-biggest-heap-of-on-hive
As far as I know from what I have read …
COAL was created to prevent Plagiarism and Identity Theft.
Personally I prefer the Nasty Prick Mute Bitton. (napalm)
Blurt is the best.
I disagree, it is damaged and weak.
As editing is an issue here, enclosing the responses to show truths
No one mistakes anything and we are all saying we disagree with this and megadrive being human actually is engaging with us and considering options. He doesn’t just say ‘f**k off’ and put us on the coal list for disagreeing with him like what would happen on hive where when I questioned someone else getting downvoted I just got greeted with a bunch of downvotes as ‘punishment’ For speaking out on behalf of someone else. Hive is the worst of the worst for centralisation and we are for sure fighting to not let blurt go the same way. Trust me on that. And thanks for promoting blurt and getting the name out there... very kind of you :)
I can say Blurt 1,000 times a day on every social media, it's clear no one gives a fuck. There are meme coins on Hive Engine that have more daily volume than your entire blockchain.
It’s not my blockchain. This is the problem you guys have you take ownership of things. The whole point of making something supposedly decentralised is that no one owns it. People really seem to mis understand this concept all the time and it’s what is messing up all of them.
Hive is the worst of the worst but steemit and blurt also have their issues I hope someone acrually makes one somewhat decentralised.
Explain to me how hundred thousand of users each with their own votes is more centralized than 2-3 dudes in a basement with the ability to not one remove all rewards on one post, but all future posts of a user?
Hive has about 20 rich investors that club together ( and might I add most started their accounts before it was even supposedly possible when you track them back) who can effectively decide certain people can’t earn money or have visible posts based on just personally disliking something. Of course they all collate in discord groups... I know I’ve been in them and seen how downvotes are co ordinated. Then if they question even in a nice way what they did to deserve a down vote they get told to F off and 5 more whales jump on to downvote then to 0. If blurt starts adding people to a coal list in a similar fashion then I shall also be against that. Decentralisation, at least to me isn’t 20 rich ppl or one founder deciding who can earn money on a platform or what they are allowed to post. I hope that blurt sees sense and doesn’t go the same way hive did.
And no one cares about this trading volume. Don’t you understand yet the ppl here are not here just t earn money they are here to build a fair community on the most part. It’s the reason blurt didn’t tank along with hive in the recent crash because yes there is less trading volume but people on the most part are not using blurt to trade and only make money, yes they want to earn money but they want to build and add to a community, not trade constantly. Most people here I imagine are invested and holding. If ppl want to purely make money from investing hive isn’t a good investment either there are many tokens out there that have done much better than all of the social media platforms.
I just wrote about you over on Hive mate. Hush hush now! Go downvote it! 😂
https://hive.blog/hive/@networkallstar/the-hive-downvote-beast-themarkymark-attacks-blurt-on-blurt-gets-rewarded-for-it