Why Have My BLURT Rewards Fallen Recently?

in blurt •  4 years ago 

Firstly, let me say that the Blurt blockchain is behaving as it should and the rewards are being properly calculated. However, the experience people are having is due to some changes that needed to be made when Blurt was launched. The experiences of the last 3 months were actually the anomalies - what we are now seeing is normal operations.

Let me explain...

In the beginning

When Blurt was launched it took a snapshot of Steem token holders but, unlike Hive, it did not copy over all the posts - including posts that were pending rewards. Also, what used to be the STEEM-per-MVests parameter was changed to BLURT-per-Vests and re-based. These two changes had consequences for the short-term economics of Blurt.

If you look at any Blurt blockchain explorer, you will see numbers for the "Reward Fund" (aka reward-pool or rpool) and the "recent claims". Those two global parameters define how your votes turn into BLURT rewards.

The formula for generating payouts is quite simple:

payout-in-BLURT = (reward-pool) x (post-claims) / (recent-claims)

The recent-claims are actually similar to rshares generated by your vote, but they also take into account other factors such as early voting or a vote removal etc. Now, imagine when Blurt was launched, the recent-claims were kept as a number but those claims did not correspond to any claims made by posts - because no posts existed.

So, imagine those claims as in two piles: one is the claims at launch (let's call them synthetic-claims) and the other is the claims generated by new votes on new posts.

recent-claims = real-recent-claims + synthetic-claims

Now, it is economically damaging to keep those synthetic-claims so high for ever, so code was written so that those claims would slowly be deleted. At the end of this process, all the claims will actually be from real votes on recent posts. This is where we are today!

So, as Blurt has developed, those synthetic-claims slowly disappeared and real-recent-claims grew larger and were processed at each payout. However, because Blurt is a new chain, the number shown as recent-claims has been steadily falling; this is because the synthetic-claims have been deleted faster than real-recent-claims have been generated. This had the effect of increasing the reward-pool fairly quickly.

Those who have posted on Blurt since it started may recall that in the early days payouts were very small - much smaller than now. Then, as the reward-pool grew those payouts became larger.

What has happened recently is that those synthetic-claims have now dropped to zero, and will be of no further concern to the economy. The remaining recent-claims are now all real claims generated by votes. Hence, those claims generated higher payouts and thereby reduced the reward-pool fairly quickly from its then high.

What we all experience now is the end of that whole process.

Both the reward-pool and the recent-claims are now at levels that reflect the true activity on the Blurt chain.

To sum up, the synthetic-claims created at the launch of Blurt created an artificial economy that firstly increased the reward-pool and then decreased it again to the current real level. The consequence of this is that reward payouts started very small, grew to be quite large and now have dropped to their real level.

Final thoughts

Why was this done? Well, anybody who has studied these Graphene DPOS chains will know that if they are launched from a clean genesis block, then post rewards can be astronomical. This is because the reward-pool fills up quickly but the recent-claims are very small, hence the payouts can be huge. To avoid these initial hyper-rewards, it is sensible that the initial state of the chain should have some synthetic-rewards.

This is actually an innovation and, I suspect, the devs were not sure that it would work as intended - it has! The confusion of users is that this wasn't fully explained at the start - now it has!

One very final thought is that those economic changes I wrote about before will be implemented as soon as possible and will make small and medium-sized accounts feel much better.

Any further questions, please ask in the comments section.

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I only request that this post be stormed with upvotes.

Our very own researcher and mathematician has once again explain the platform eloquently and in detail.

Yes, such an insightful explanation deserves all the support from the community.
Its good that changes were made to keep the ecosystem healthy and sustainable!

Dropped-in my full upvote because it deserves to be at the top of trending.

Just curious, do the community curators allowed to mob and rain this post with upvotes using the community accounts? A portion of their upvotes will immediately bring this post at the top.

  ·  4 years ago  ·   (edited)

Excellent. I Upvoted as much as possible.... tried my best to get this on Trending.

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

I found it to be basically a perfect explanation!

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Every Blurtter needs to see this post.

I honestly thought that the decline in the amount of rewards is due to an increase in active BP curating content (of course I don't have basis or evidence other than my own observation). It's great that you made a thorough explanation of this recent event. Thanks a lot for this.

By the way, should we expect that the rewards will continuously decrease? Or have we reached the end of the decline and the rewards will maintain from here on?

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Hi, and thanks for the vote :-)
The current drop has been very fast, hence why so many have noticed it, and hence is largely due to the process I explained of "mopping up" what was for a period a very high rpool. If you experienced Steem's HF19 something similar happened.

What you mention about curator-accounts will also have a smaller effect. Going forwards, we should see the rpool decrease slow down - rather like exponential decay - and then settle at some level, with daily fluctuations. The rpool can never reach zero :-) it settles at a point where BLURT being minted equals BLURT paid out as rewards.

However, a decreasing rpool is something positive for the overall economy - it shows an increase in activity. So when my economic changes will kick in, that too will lower the rpool again, but it means smaller votes have value again.

There is no economic sense in trying to keep the reward pool high.

The concerns about farming are related but need to be dealt with using algos that target "bad" behaviour - something I am actively working on too. It can all be done :-) but Blurt has inherited certain features and IMO we need to make sure that changes will really be positive both in the short and long term. These are all deep concerns that I have had for some years now but the other chains have just refused to tackle them head-on. Thanks again for your comment.

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Just to add some numbers, the Blurt rpool peaked at somewhere like 3.2 million, I then noticed a couple of weeks ago it was down to 1.6 mil, and looking now is at 1.3 mil.

Just proof that the rate of fall is decreasing. Where it flattens out wholly depends on blockchain activity - votes!

(just for comparison, Steem rpool is at about 830k, while Hive is at 900k.)

I'm lucky enough to be active during these high rewards, I even made a post 3 weeks ago that I earned 138% curation rewards on that week. And then the decrease happens fast & furious :D

For this week, my curation rewards are now 50% APY which is tally to the amount of rpool you've mentioned.

Now I finally see a clearer picture when you said...

curator-accounts will also have a smaller effect

So when my economic changes will kick in, that too will lower the rpool again, but it means smaller votes have value again.

I'm looking forward to these changes since low-value votes are useful to me for rewarding comments.


It's great that the founders are receptive to the issues and solutions that you're bringing up.

Also, I think that Blurt is in a good position right now to deviate between Hive or Steem, we are still at an early stage and so changes can be easily implemented.

With the changes that you've mentioned, the coming HF is gonna be impactful. Cheers!

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Thanks, I wish more users would be so patient and see this as joining an experiment. Yes, it needed to go public quickly, but I'm glad to be involved in the discussions and plans so that Blurt will, as you say, deviate from its ancestors.

I mean, look how long it has taken Cardano to develop? I only mention it coz I appreciate the wealth of research papers that project has generated :-)

So, I feel that a non-value-holding chain can't generate feedback and evolve. So we had to launch fast-fast.

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  ·  4 years ago  ·   (edited)

Great post. All the best Minds are here on Blurt.blog. So glad I joined.

Also shared on Twitter .... #blurtlove

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

The best Minds. Also minds that want to be free from the bad of STEEM&HIVE. Bring the best of the TECH, AND WORST IN THE BEHIND! --THE FORCE IS WITH BLURT

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

This was such a great post. I thought it'd be something like: More users are joining and more votes are being given. But you gave so much details. Thanks a ton :)

I'm new here & made my 1st power up today.

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Thank you @rycharde, that was a great explanation! I had no idea there was this kind of "synthetic" rewards pool... I had just attributed the decline to there being more activity and users sharing the same rewards.

=^..^=

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Thanks! Just to note that the synthetic tokens were the "claims" not the BLURT in the reward pool. The system inherited from Steem has many intermediate "tokens" that serve various functions. It looks complicated coz the blockchain is a ledger, so nothing gets deleted! Those synthetic-claims could be deleted precisely because they were not generated by votes within the system but were inherited.

I'm glad people appreciate such posts. I sometimes think it's like peering into the innards of a central bank - and most would rather not know - but part of an open source system is precisely the exposure to the mechanics of it all. Many misconceptions were propagated within the previous chains, for multiple reasons, that I hope to start clarifying how this complex system works. But step by step!

But as you said, greater activity will reduce the reward pool further, but that usually happens more slowly. What few people noticed was that the rpool was unusually high for a month or two. Maybe they noticed... and enjoyed it too much! :-)

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

I simply enjoyed the fact that I was able to increase my stake by a good bit in the earliest days... now the work continues.

I do enjoy posts about the "nuts and bolts" about how things work, though.

=^..^=

  ·  4 years ago  ·  

Thanks for explaining!
VgA 🙂