The Myth of Decentralisation and the Agents of Collusion

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I have written about this myth many times before, both as posts and comments, but seems like people prefer believing in myths instead of understanding reality. Decentralisation is the biggest myth in crypto. I have seen far too many articles start with,"decentralisation is hard to define but..." followed by some miracle related to the "power of the people". What is totally absent is the reality that the power only belongs to some people. What is worse, is that the algorithms that allegedly define "decentralisation" are perfect for being hijacked by agents of collusion. Just as democracies can easily become tyrannies, so decentralisation leads to centralisation - is just a matter of time and will.

What Does Decentralisation Mean?

Firstly, let us inject some clarity into what "decentralisation" actually means, what it should mean, and how the concept is totally ripe to being abused. "Decentralisation" is not a noun; it may look like one, but this is part of the camouflage. "Decentralisation" is an adjective, or, more precisely, an adjectival noun. It is totally meaningless without reference to what is being decentralised. This is a deep source of confusion, as I rarely see this qualifier. This leads to people arguing over the definition of something that can be many things - and that is a total waste of energy.

There are two main, and separate, uses of the word: one is decentralised governance; the other is decentralised network. These are very different things. Sadly, the construct known as DPOS (Delegated Proof of Stake) merges the two into one, and hence encourages the confusion. Proof of Stake (POS) and Proof of Work (POW) systems also have varying levels of cross-contamination between the two forms of decentralisation.

Before going forward, let me pause to add that the idea of decentralisation can be used all the way down the levels of a network, and all the way up to the social level - from metal to meatware. If one tries this exercise, listing all the network components and systems and functions, it becomes obvious that "decentralisation" is a terrible concept. Hence, I've written before about changing one's perspective to discuss such sub-systems in terms of dependencies - that is a far more useful concept to manage.

For example, a website requires a domain name; hence, it is dependent on the domain naming authority that manages the top level domain, be it dot-com, dot-blog, dot-io etc. We have even seen one website that many of you have used lose its domain name because it was registered by a person who had left the project. That's a dependency! Can that dependency be reduced, or even eliminated? That is a serious admin question.

Another example, imagine you have a distributed network of nodes acting as Graphene blockchain witnesses. That appears to be decentralised. But look again, they are all using the same server hosting facility (that's a dependency), look closer and they are all on the same physical machine (a further dependency), then you notice they are all run by one human using multiple usernames (that is now a very serious dependency!) At each level of analysis, the dependencies increase while the decentralisation decreases.

This now gives us a good idea of how to define "decentralisation": it is the minimising of dependencies across the whole system.

This gives us some clarity of thought in order to analyse the dependencies and then categorise them as either critical or non-critical. The critical dependencies are those that cannot (as yet) be minimised, while the non-critical ones can be further analysed into ways to make them more decentralised, and hence minimise the dependency on them.

Security and Trust

So let us now get back to what most people seem to be thinking about when they trot out the D-word: governance and/or security. Let us also now focus on DPOS, otherwise every statement will end up with lots of branching other statements.

The security of the blockchain is in the hands of so-called witnesses - other systems may call them validators or miners. They manage the hardware and software that allows them to produce blocks, verify them as valid, and then add them to the chain. As in the example given above, this system can have varying degrees of decentralisation. The ideal is that all witnesses are independent, both at the level of machines and the humans behind them. But how are these witnesses selected?

Before answering that question, let me complete the picture of how a blockchain is run. In this case, let us still focus on the social media chains such as Blurt, and other Graphene chains. Such a chain can easily exist, managed by the witnesses, and yet be doing absolutely nothing! How does anybody else have access to such a chain? Well, if there is documentation you can read that and learn how to interact using a CLI (command line interface). You certainly won't see any images or videos, and finding posts will be a fun challenge.

On such a chain, the witnesses can play with each other; this is the sort of setup when Steem first started as a coin mining protocol - the witnesses were miners, just as for Bitcoin. What is needed to enable other users is an RPC node that allows communication to and from the chain. This then also requires some front-end website, or app, that converts clicks into operations that then produce transactions.

We immediately see that we have introduced two new dependencies. Strangely, the vitally important public RPC nodes are not rewarded for their work, unlike witness nodes; thus a crucial dependency has been created that is wholly centralised! I don't wish this to get very technical, but witness nodes could also act as public RPC nodes just by adding the necessary plugins. But enforcing this would require code changes, and would also make the workload much higher for the node operators with potential consequences on their core role of producing blocks.

Also, as we know, anybody can run a front-end so that users can interact using a simple interface. Again, such sites are centrally controlled by whoever wishes to run one. All of this is to stress that in order to run a functioning public blockchain, with which users can interact, requires extra software that is by necessity centrally run. Can either RPC nodes or front-ends affect the blockchain itself? Yes, they can if run by bad actors. They can change the user perception of the chain by filtering content and user actions. We have seen this too on Steem after the takeover. Hence, users need some confidence that the people running such services close to the chain can be trusted. This may sound like a far cry from "trustless protocols" but is the reality of the services that interact with the chain.

Governance

So let us get back to how witnesses are selected. In a DPOS system, witnesses are voted on by users. Each vote is weighted in proportion to a user's vested stake. This is very much like corporations where shareholders vote in proportion to their shares. Just as corporations can have majority shareholders so too can a DPOS system. Anybody can buy enough coins to have a significant voice on the selection of witnesses. Anybody with enough money can even buy a majority stake in a chain. So I ask: in what way is this a decentralised system? It isn't. It may even look like it at the start, but the influence of stake is an obvious incentive to accumulate and control.

And this is where the mixture of network and governance becomes the real Achilles heel of DPOS. Having control over the witnesses is not just about securing the network but is also fundamental to how the chain behaves. The only way to change the rules of the chain is through a hardfork (HF), and such a hardfork must be implemented by the witnesses. Each witness must update their code to match the new rules set out in a HF. If the top witnesses were to collectively refuse to change their code, then any new HF would not be implemented live on chain.

Thus, control the witnesses and you control the very rules of the chain. This is a powerful incentive to accumulate stake, control the top witnesses and thus change the very nature of how the chain operates. Indeed, this can also be used by agents of one chain to destroy a chain run by a competitor.

For some chains, this may require billion of dollars, whereas for some smaller chains this can be done with under one million - maybe even less. So, again, where has the "decentralisation" gone? The obsession with "being decentralised" is just a weakness that encourages collusion among those members who seek to control such a chain.

Steem and Hive are effectively governed by a single entity, with or without varying degrees of collusion; something few people may be aware of is that Steem, before the takeover, suffered from a stalemate of control. This is a long story, but the founding corporation had lost control to a group of other whales. Stalemates can sometimes be good, so no damage can be done, but such a stalemate means that developing the chain can be halted unless done in the interests of a small group. We saw some awful decisions, especially HF21 on Steem, that were blatantly designed to help the whales accumulate even more stake, at the expense of the wider userbase.

I am not privy to what Steem could have become had the developers had full control of the chain rules. However, Dan left to found EOS, which at its core was very similar to Steem. Why was he unable to make such changes within Steem itself? The point here is that no chain starts off with 100% perfect code at genesis, hence every chain needs a way to develop in the future. Taking away that right to develop one's own chain, in the name of a vague idea such as "decentralisation", is the path to ruin. The obsession with "decentralisation" means that even great ideas can be hijacked by any individual or group with enough resources to gain control.

It is so easy to turn decentralised governance into a controlling stake, that the question must be asked as to why should the stake be more important than the founders? Why is it such a great idea that chains can be hijacked for personal profits? Why is it such a great idea that chains should leave themselves open to be hijacked and crashed? And such crashes are not exploit hacks, not code bugs, they are a feature; a feature that seems to have been promoted precisely to allow wealthy individuals to control the whole of crypto space!

Again, think of the weakness of national democracies. Are there any left that are truly the "voice of the people"? They have all been hijacked by huge vested interests that want to control all populations. Think about how the idea of democracy has polluted the world. Read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman to learn how grants, loans and bribes, plus a pledge to be "democratic" are used to subjugate whole nations. "Decentralisation" is the same con. I wish someone would write "Confessions of a Crypto Hitman". Anybody with eyes can see how it is done, but it takes some foresight to see it coming - before it strikes.

The Problem of Collusion

The deep problem with decentralised governance is that there are no existing algorithms that can protect this idea - no way to ensure decentralisation and avoid collusion. This is a hard problem, because the network of colluders exists outside of the network of a blockchain. One can track behaviours, and thereby construct such a network of aligned interests, but it is not easy, and such hijackers are smart. Try to recall the surprise move by Justin Sun to wrench back control of the Steem chain: using an exchange stake to vote on witnesses - something exchangers had promised never to do. It's all about the numbers, so that whatever can happen will happen given aligned incentives.

I have written in the past about using the word "decentralising" as a concept for blockchains. If a so-called decentralised governance chain becomes centralised, are there any protocols that force the rules to re-decentralise? Is there any protection whatsoever from gangs of rampaging hijackers targeting chain after chain? I don't see it. If one can design such rules that maintain a decentralised governance even against centralising attacks then that would be gold. However, it must be reactive enough to avoid the colluders from taking over governance to then change the rules!

Now, that kind of decentralising algorithm may be impossible, and if it is impossible then one is left with only two options: to accept that decentralised governance can lead to a governance coup; or just admit that there is some special stake designed to avoid such a coup. This doesn't alter the decentralised nature of the network, just the governance. This is no different to some corporations that have special classes of shares as protection for founders - those special shares may be sold in the future or even expire. The purpose is to stop a new entity from being hijacked, either at birth or as a growing teenager. We would not be wasting so much energy and attention on such issues if they were crystal clear.

What Do Users Really Want?

I think most active users on Blurt just want a social system that is relaxed, easy to use, simple to earn some crypto and fair to each other. This is, after all, a social network, not some Defi site that is totally finance-orientated. To build a crypto system that is both social and financial has proved difficult - just look around. New sites look great - until they don't! The algorithms that define the financial interactions are hard to encode in ways that are perceived to be fair. Much time and resources have been spent defending the Blurt chain from multiple attacks, resources that could have been spent developing the chain. Users all have the freedom to join, and to leave - nobody is being forced to stay here. But also, nobody should be allowed to hijack the chain for their own ends - and waving the flag of "decentralisation" is the path to giving such people an open door. Those who insist on not understanding this need to look at the propagandists.

So, finally, if we go back to our definition of "decentralisation" as the process of minimising dependencies, does chain governance count as critical or not? Does chain development count as critical or not? On Blurt, the so-called regent-account was created to protect Blurt from precisely what happened on Steem! That account has no financial power and cannot vote on posts. Its only function was to ensure a trusted set of witnesses so that Blurt would not be hijacked. How many users would like to see the downvote reintroduced? How many users would like to see the reward curve reset to the one used on Steem, that hugely inflates whale votes? These and many other changes are easy to do - once one has control of the witnesses. Like I said, the system incentivises and encourages such hijacking precisely because such coups can change the rules immediately. Is that what everyone wants?

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

The decentralization was started in terms of software and hardware, where software can be run only at one location, but then distributed to each different place with similar things was decentralization.

Here they say to hand over for truly decentralization, but that cant happen, as people don't overnight can handle software development, blockchain maintenance, and services. There still require a person or organization to handle these.

Your write-up may help people understand that.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Right, but a distributed network is one form of decentralised network - that part is independent of governance. Cloud services are distributed systems, but we don't expect Cloudflare to be a decentralised entity!

Here they say to hand over for truly decentralization, but that cant happen, as people don't overnight can handle software development, blockchain maintenance, and services.

I'm unsure it is feasible under any length of time. We've never seen this done. Steem has Steemit.inc to oversee the project, Hive has Blocktrades. I've asked both sides in this certain questions, the ones I'm asking those demanding the stepping aside of the Foundation is how this will run if that were to happen. On who will be trusted to safeguard and maintain, and why folks would trust these folks.

On the flip side however, there have been valid questions pertaining to the Dao raised. The more I've looked into this it appears that a non sequitur exists when it comes to the regent and the Dao. It appears that the community has zero say on the Dao, which would make the decay meaningless in relation to that. It also makes these links misleading that you can see on my screenshots that suggest that we vote on Dao usages.

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It needs considered as well by those seeking to place themselves on the top of the Blurt hierarchy how many will consider it safe to keep funds here under their management. It's quite possible that there will also be a mass exodus if they were to become the new stewards by default of large stake ownership.

I was done with crypto blockchain and only gave this a try here due to Mr. Cornell and then my research into Jacob. I miss the early days here (despite not many English speakers and the low valuation). Everyone seemed to get along very well and there wasn't always this bickering and contention. In the last 8 months or so it has been just one thing after another.

I'm hopeful that there will be some compromise and more transparency on the Dao and Foundation decisions to avert any more of these charged situations. I also think it prudent all to prepare for a harsh devaluation by the whales who are aligned against the Foundation currently. There has been clear market manipulation from someone(s) to see such a drastic drop, and considering what is still in wallets it is likely going to get really bad soon if they decide to seek the destruction of Blurt.

Sorry for rambling. I see some credibility on all sides, yet the one missing crucial piece that stands out like a sore thumb is what this never before seen decentralized chain would look like, and if it's even possible to happen.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

low token price is not always a "bad thing"


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

exactly

i'm here for the authors, not "the money"


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

So let us get back to how witnesses are selected. In a DPOS system, witnesses are voted on by users. Each vote is weighted in proportion to a user's vested stake. This is very much like corporations where shareholders vote in proportion to their shares. Just as corporations can have majority shareholders so too can a DPOS system. Anybody can buy enough coins to have a significant voice on the selection of witnesses. Anybody with enough money can even buy a majority stake in a chain. So I ask: in what way is this a decentralised system? It isn't. It may even look like it at the start, but the influence of stake is an obvious incentive to accumulate and control.

Yeah, if one person buy enough stake, he/she will be able to turn what's called ''decentralized'' to completely centralized or even worse.

a feature that seems to have been promoted precisely to allow wealthy individuals to control the whole of crypto space!

Yeah, I always wondered why most crypto turned to proof of stake. And it was implemented on most of them so fast, like crypto = pos.

regent-account

I wonder what will protect blurt if that account expire in 07/07.

I also think that to protect what called ''decentralization'' we have, we seem to need some centralization and that's a paradox.

I hope a good solution to all this will be found as soon as possible.


  ·  3 years ago  ·  

There is a solution - to extend the regent period. It was created for this very reason. 2 years may have seemed reasonable 2 years ago, but developments have proved that wrong.

There is no other solution. The merging of network and governance means it is not easy to separate them again without some very serious coding. The regent was a relatively simple way to do so.

Then maybe we can start a much longer process of discussing how governance can be changed, coz the current model of witness voting is a recipe for unwanted hijacking.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

I think what will protect Blurt is more people owning more Blurt…. If the Top 20 people on the Richlist are all Active Blurt Bloggers and all have 10 million Blurt each that would be great. I’m buying as much Blurt as possible on the big Blurt dips. Mostly Ionomy

There are a bunch of people in the Richlist that are not even active on Blurt ?????

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

This what I've been saying ever since the steemit days ...(but no where near as objectively and eloquently).

'Decentralization as advertised 'is a utopian myth.
Just like communism - great on a paper, and would would perfectly if only people were not involved.

...like any 'well intentioned democracy' that functions to serve all, and not just the few, it requires integrity, intelligence, and maturity from those in power for it to ever work.

Intelligent enough to understand that longevity of this type of system requires the voluntary abrogation of powers on the microlevel, and a much more hands off approach on the macro level.

On the downside, (with a few notable exceptions) I see very little integrity, intelligence or maturity in many of those accounts with huge stake.
Liberal/midwit low brows are all about mine, moaar_, and control.

The two paradigms are not compatible - as any change relies on the scared and power hungry control freaks to voluntarily change - how will that work ?

The man child is not the optimum person to control anything, except computer code - they seem to excel in that department.
Which is good.
Unfortunately, they're also too psychologically immature understand the boundaries of their own competencies.

'Separation of powers' is a great principle, and it works - the decay over time of this system -(which is what occurs) can be addressed.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Maybe it just is what it is.
A system which is given birth, runs for a while and then decays, runs out, dies or is killed. Like every other form on earth. LOL
Early birds and techs do have the early and technical advantage, newcomers have fun and late ones run after the promises. HaHa!

I'm really glad I stumbled on this post @rycharde, it answered a lot of questions that have been on mind, of which the most foremost is "Are social networks and blockchain really decentralized?".

I'm fairly new to the blurt platform and I observed that what we have here is a more "decentralized system" that what we have in other graphene social platforms. The most notable being the Curation return curve is around 50% of what your vote gave to the post you voted. This is the same regardless of whether you are a whale or not. And most importantly, the removal of the downvote button which was mostly used as a tool to exert power on weaker accounts and young communities that doesn't agree to a whale's terms, or simply one a whale doesn't like.

But we can't say decentralization (of blockchain and of network) has been achieved perfectly in the blurt system, as the system is not yet perfect and their are loop holes such as the ones you mentioned in this post. The most prominent of which is the unequal worth of witness vote, which is judged based on the worth of an account. Although I don't know so much about the story, but I know the exploitation of this flaw is what forced the initiation of forking of steemit, and creation of other platforms like blurt, hive, serey e.t.c.

Concerning this, this is a question of investment and the safety of the blockchain. It is understandable that every heavy investor will like to be in control in the decision makings that can influence the profit or loss of his/her investment, as compared to little investors, they have more to lose in terms of amount. But when we consider the fact that a man's $10 may be worth to him even much more than a person with $1bn will value his $100 this brings us to the point where we need to consider the safety of the blockchain ensuring equity this time not equality.

Although, the above suggestion may sound logical, it still has a catch, as many investors won't invest in a system they won't have a level of control, more than a person who invested less, attractive to investing in.

Now, this puts us in a crazy situation. And for a growing account which depends mostly on vote from ctime and blurtbooster, as well as blurt curator and nrg, (as it's more probably to get votes from those accounts, which I believe are people's investment), it is something to worry about.

I hope the witnesses come to the best decisions concerning to this matter.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I'm not gonna pretend I understood all of this, but I understood a lot, and you answered quite a few questions I had. Thanks for this post.


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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Thanks. There was a time I wrote quite a few of these crypto concept pieces - maybe is time I did some more.
I know most come here to post and earn, but an understanding of the system would really help users navigate the environment.

Like having a market stall - you must be aware of who owns the market space - if the owner changes, do you still wish to be there?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

A physical market is easy to oversee. I can walk there and talk to the people and get a feel for them. This market is an established thing. The stall owners come there every week and I see the same noses around and realize that that is their main business. If one owner changes that might not be a problem for me as a consumer when I can get the cheese or meat somewhere else on the same market in a somewhat same price and quality.
It will be different if I am not only a consumer but someone who has deeper business relationships with the stall owner. I will check him out and see if he is a reliable entrepreneur.

In this particular digital world, nothing of that kind is possible for me to observe.
Trust is not given through established appearance and activities. How to gain trust in digital users and environments?

I think it can only be perceived if the digital environment gives a good user experience, functioning features and ergonomic familiarity in navigation, for example. I do not take it primarily from people but from the technicalities, I think. For a system to get established in the long run, it must run long.

Crypto-currencies are speculative in nature and I doubt that the attempt to manifest in a blogosphere in the long term will be successful for most of the currencies. I think the nature of speculation is more like creating new spaces ever so often to have the beginner advantage for the beginners. For all the late comers it seems too much of an effort to reach high grounds in terms of stakes. Except you have gambling money and are not afraid to lose it. Or you are a very stoic blogger who earns his share through content creation and goes with the flows as long the flows go.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I was thinking more of market stallholders. I've seen markets ebb and flow as new owners own the land and change the rules.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Oh, I see.
To change a game, yes, I can do that in an aggressive manner and try dominating the scene if I have enough power and connections to get myself opportunists in supporting me.
When a new gamer comes along and clearly dominates the scene there is not much one can do if one is not even in power and connectivity.

Good thing is that enough people do not pay attention to the power plays and therefor take their shares and pocket money with them without really knowing what is going on.

To get along with someone who aims at destruction and to convince this person otherwise takes high artistic skills...not many are able in doing so (I am not).

One must find those plays inspiring to a certain degree, I think.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

So what will be done then after the regent account to prevent hostile takeovers now?

What is the back up plan?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

100% decentralization is like Lord of the Flies. The most powerful, biggest bullies simply eat all the minnows. Then they eat themselves. It happened on a few other “Decentralized Blockchains that lasted about 1 year. Total disaster.

Lord of the Flies is a 1954 novel by the Nobel Prize-winning British author William Golding. The plot concerns a group of British boys who are stranded on an uninhabited island and their disastrous attempts to govern themselves. Themes include the tension between groupthink and individuality, between rational and emotional reactions, and between morality and immorality.

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I'm glad i took time to go through this post. It has given me a better perspective about the whole idea of decentralization and crypto in general. The few beneficiaries of the "decentralized" system are "centralized". One is even tempted to say there is more to what meets the eye about them. They pose often as solution providers why they are out for their pockets.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Thanks. I hope this has shone a light on the processes by which this can happen. Doesn't happen to every project, but it does when a target has a predator.

I absolutely agree. I believe that blurt is different and will NEVER be a victim.of such. The efforts of @megadrive to resist this temptation is commendable.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Speakin da TRUTH!

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

i appreciate the write up...
informative.

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This now gives us a good idea of how to define "decentralisation": it is the minimising of dependencies across the whole system.

Bellissima definizione! 💯 Davvero complimenti! 😎

Strangely, the vitally important public RPC nodes are not rewarded for their work, unlike witness nodes; thus a crucial dependency has been created that is wholly centralised!

Has there ever been any discussion about how to add extra rewards to those who run also run RPC nodes?

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Many discussions! The problem is that RPCs are really API nodes and there is no algo to monitor their use that is fair - unlike witnesses that are paid per block - so in the end they are paid for via the DAO funds, or by individuals who see it as part of their service. eg, we encouraged every new front-end to run their own RPC and to use theirs as the primary RPC so as to spread the load.

Even on Cosmos there is this issue. But there, the chain validators share their block fees with delegators and, without touching the blockchain code, they can now show that they also run an RPC. That leaves the funding decision to the delegators, whether such validators+RPC are worth giving more support to. But such decisions are off-chain.

so in the end they are paid for via the DAO funds, or by individuals who see it as part of their service.

Nice! At least this way those who do more get rewarded more. It's only fair!

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

That was quite an interesting read and I appreciate your effort to set some things in the right perspective.

Like I said, the system incentivises and encourages such hijacking precisely because such coups can change the rules immediately. Is that what everyone wants?

I think no one wants it explicitly but as it's possible and there are loopholes in any system it is at risk throughout its entire existence.
If witnesses operate in the attitude of "challenges are there to be accepted" and are doing their jobs with a certain amount of fun and not bitterness, a system like this could run and withstand the attacks you described, ...or so I assume.

There is so much seriousness involved but maybe I just perceive it that way because I visit the wrong sources. :)

Decentralization is key to more than just Blockchain....

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Yep