To me it’s very different to tell one person they can’t do something than it is to tweak a platform so that certain behaviours are not able to be done.
That merely expands the group being discriminated against to those of larger means though. The downvote button was also a tool of discrimination, only it worked in reverse. It allowed those of larger means to target those of lesser means.
The current model we have that respects all wallets and words regardless of size or topic is in my opinion the best we have. It simply is none of our business what one does with the holdings found within their wallet. If they wish to delegate it for profit and view Blurt as little more than an investment vehicle, I'm glad they are here and have helped add value to the project by powering up to have that stake to delegate.
I mean we differ a bit here because I don’t mind site rules as long as they are clear when I sign up to the site or the change is clear and allows me to use the site with those rules or not. Sometimes rules enable a better experience for users .. for example Charging ppl to post so there is less spam, charging people to comment, not allowing plagerism etc. I understand the reason for those rules and personally am happy to abide by them knowing all site users abide by them or they use a different site. However someone choosing an individual person and removing their right to post / earn etc to me is descrimination. I think we think a bit differently on this one.
I agree. Which is why I said if they begin stripping property rights that existed when I joined I'll be out of here as it no longer resembles the respect of property rights it held when I joined.
I'm not sure where you saw me advocating this.
I didn’t lol I think we have a bit of a communication miss match it might be me not explaining things right I don’t always find it the easiest to type. But what I’m saying is that I personally don’t mind site rules that feel in the benefit of the site as a whole and it’s users. If I don’t like them I’ll leave. What I don’t like is specific people being targeted or unable to earn / post etc etc
I don't mind rule changes that respect speech and property. I'm still unclear under the current system who or what is being targeted unfairly.
I think this convo is about upvu right? And the bot voting service
That was one of a few topics, yes. In regards to their service, I'm pro property rights. In the case of who mega votes for, I'm for property rights. In the case of someone deciding they wish to support or not support a side in a war, I'm pro property rights, lol.
In the case of upvu, I've stood strong on my defense and advocacy of their service, seeing it as a boon tot he project while at the same time strongly saying those who use their services should strictly be a pure investor with no aspirations for building a community around themselves.
I even advocated if such a service was disliked and folks hated seeing posts on trending to allow one to just log into their wallet and collect rewards as if they self voted 10 times, which actually probably pays more than upvu (they need a cut) and would still draw pure investors. Would minimize some of the posts on trending, although as an example i just saw elsewhere oldstone produces some of the highest quality posts I can read here.
I don’t think my ones proposing he should be forced to vote or not vote for anyone but as he had freedom to vote ppl have freedom to talk about it / have opinions. The difference here is no one can downvote either cause they don’t like his vote choice, or the opinions against it… it’s just discussion. I’m talking more about upvu tho
And by extension all the wallet holders who have collaborated with their service.
Yeah not sure why ppl don’t just self upvote rly
I don't either. I demonstrated yesterday in my comments (without actually voting) how quick I could make 10 comments that could all be upvoted 100% which is also not discouraged here. The payout would have to be higher as there would be no cut going to upvu (or their competitors like tomoyon).
Guess more likely to hit trending when on one post ?
Human nature says that most will not be squandering their upvotes on authors who never reciprocate. The folks using these services sacrifice community votes which is why I don't recommend them for those who also wish to grow by community.
I mean the cost to post and the cost to post is a site change to prevent spam. Or should we just all be ok with spam and dick pics and porn? I mean I guess true decentralisation is it’s ok but blurt has changed its rules on it to accommodate.
There is no decentralization, as rycharde says the more accurate term would be one of dependencies.
I'm unsure of what the fees have to do with this topic on property rights.
Because it’s an almost direct comparison to the upvu situation. When most people joined there were no fees to pay for posting and commenting but because spam hit a crazy level and other chains tried to just over spam the site they added fees to the system to make it more enjoyable for users. Most ppl supported that move. Adding in something like ‘you can’t delegate to higher stake holders’ is also something that could make the site more enjoyable for those on it. Since upvu type services could become a big problem. Now I am just a small user expressing an opinion but in my opinion adding fees is no different to changing the platform to not be able to delegate to higher stake users.
My understanding (I had to wait for the chain to be fixed after the spam attack) is there were always fees, but there was a loophole allowing witnesses to post with no fees. That the attacker (I strongly suspect the Bernie account) used this loophole to spam with no fees his genitalia pictures using his bots to overwhelm the chain.