They call it Unclaimed ...when it is airdrop...HUGE DIFFERENCE !

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Unclaimed is a button you need to click to accept a gift ...
Airdrop appears in your wallet without any acceptation on your side , it is given away , deposited in your wallet .
there are not a due but there are given away
Like the ones we were supposed to recieve from gamestate and no one ever saw a coin .
Airdrop are calculated based on your holding
When a chain do a hardfork and take with it the customers , they integrate free coin for everyone .
Free coins i have never recieved ...have you ?
Neither from being a hive or whaleshares coin holder

Dont be fooled by words confusion ( unclaimed and airdrop is radically different )
That is another way the lie is spread among the community
Unclaimed As if someone forgot to click a button ..no ... those coins are ALREADY in someone s wallet
And would need to be stolen , to be removed .
Founders would need to steal those coins to use them for their benefits , to add them in their own wallet

But can we take back a gift ?

Ecosyntesizer.com website now hides a lot of datas
Since symbionts and ecosynthesizer do their business with founders
We cannot see much anymore , red lines are founders accounts but a lot are missing ...they hold 40M for blurtbooster ...blue lines are some of the targets to kill , they wont even know they own some coins .
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Logic Ethics @logiczombie

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First thing first ,

This will not be done to help the price of blurt .
THIS WILL NOT BE DONE TO HELP THE PRICE OF BLURT .

This is a manipulation of the founders to put in their pockets 175 M blurt coin without anyone blinking an eye , because no one has a clue .
This wont be done to help the price but will be done to help the 4 founders ( Jacob ( fully part of cosmos / osmosis ) , MegaD , Rycharde , Saboin ( and employees ) who are Zahidsun , Angelica and Bestkizito , The Devs who are Eastmael and Tekraze ( Saboin also ) for their salaries and wall against the meany ennemies , invadors ( large investors )

175 M more stolen coin to build a higher wall and protect themself from large investors
175 M MORE STOLEN COIN TO BUILD A HIGHER WALL AND PROTECT THEMSELF FROM LARGE INVESTORS

To hold #1 witness spot and stay centralised forever and dictate the price of blurt and the way the chain works
The salaries , the employees , the rules etc..

First point but not the most serious one ( more of an excuse )
This helps to Bring the coins to cosmos ( osmos ) to help dilution and stop @ctime etc..to use bots or trade the coin at 0% fee ( like in H-E and Tribaldex and ionomy ) .
Because ctime knows only graphene ( he wont be able to automate on others )
Founders current plan is to break into new markets like Polygon and Cosmos, that's the only way to dilute guys like ctime and Marius
so when they burn the coin in exchange private accounts ( to switch them in their own wallets ) - around 175 M coins they will deploy on other ecosystems
on Polygon - Balancer and Uniswap
on Cosmos - Junoswap and Osmosis
so the burn process is the first step, ( from the wallets ...but the coins will not disappear but rather be magically moved into other wallets and sometime after they will consider issuing on new chains (Polygon and Cosmos) this way they get access to other market liquidity and userbase , more money will bring more money ( and more investors ) but not to our profit ...

Coins are dead ..as in they belong to exchanges but the exchanges never accessed the accounts , never used their coins but they could and if so ..founders will not have their hands on those coins anymore .

later they will re-issue the 175 M coins on other blockchains .

Will they send a texto / memo to all those users ? And will those users react and use their coin on the blurt or sell their coins to investors ?
Answer from one of the founder :" only btrades might, which is ok, 2 mil tokens is not alot "

Founders already know those coins are theirs , they can careless , what we think or want .

So , dont think , with all the nice speeches you read , that those coins will be dead forever , removed graciously to pump the price of blurt ..no .. those coins will be removed in a very sneaky way and then reintegrated in the founders wallets , to be used in different exchanges without ctime and Marius or anyone of us having their hand or eyes on them .
They will be there , for sure , they will be there , but only for their profit .

This will manipulate people ( outside of blurt , within other blockchains ) to invest , when the 175 M coins will be sold to these investors .
..to pay for fat salaries within blurt and protect their ground .
This grand theft organisation is a genius evil plan to
Deploy more power over blurt users , investors and the coin price ...founders will now have 175 M blurt coin from a stolen gift ...with no effort .
And this wont even be bringing goodness to the community , quite the contrary .

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

OBRA MAESTRA


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Re🤬eD

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FTX... SBF... Tether...
Fools chasing money instead of technicians using tech 🤬🥓

The option of deleting old airdrop tokens is not an option... It's a distraction and a distasteful tactic usually used by imbeciles. 😐

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

" Switching wallets "

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Inactive , still it's there as someones private wallet ,.. inactive or not ,. speaking of taking that is the biggest blasphemy against decentralized blockchain networks i ever heard .
As if one crossed that line ,. how flexible will the word inactive become ?
As flexible as a woke democratic community can get ?

It's supposed to be in the code ,. it can not be done .
If they now do ,.. they are even able to do it to you .
It is destroying the base stone of trust .

The only way is to contact the inactive and politely ask them to sell or stake it please . You can't force a farmer to plant his seeds or else you will take them .

It will bring nothing good if they do .

" I own all your keys "

Sorry , just imagine the meme picture up there to ,.. still to down to be bothered . And way out on some herb .
;-)


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Inactive , still it's there as someones private wallet ,.. inactive or not ,. speaking of taking that is the biggest blasphemy against decentralized blockchain networks i ever heard .

bingo


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

We dont own nothing in a CENTRALISED blockchains
NO KEYS
NO COIN
NO BLOG
NO VALUE
NO WORDS

CENTRALISED = PRIVATE GROUP = LOCKEDUP
Even worse than fiat money since with fiat at least you know you are being sodomised .

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Lololol! Then leave!

Isn't it amazing what money will motivate People to do? I just keep envisioning free energy flowing so We don't have to account for Our energy anymore. Money vanishing. No need. And then the caring Ones will take care of things, not the psychopaths controlling things.

And it surely will be the best revenge!

So You Want to Have Revenge…: https://peakd.com/informationwar/@amaterasusolar/so-you-want-to-have-revenge

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Free energy is one of the subjects i cherish and study since 2013

I have read your post , i agree on most of it
But as you share informations, it is exactly what i do
We need to learn what is going on in this system , any systems we are in
Being and living happy is one thing , mostly words , is one state of mind mixed up with additives and pills ..which means not much to me ...as most people have learned how to be happy through movies and cartoons , TV ads

Thank you for your comment and sharing

🙏 Thank You for investigating! Love always!

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

🙏🏻

Truth and love 🤍

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I'm extremely torn on this entire dilemma. I don't want to be more involved in this debate than I have to.

I see a purpose for doing nothing and a purpose for doing something. I lean more on the side of doing nothing. However, the benefits of at least removing the stake of users that have not been active would be more beneficial and less egregious than outright taking their funds.

Doing what they suggested is way too over the top and would make the platform seem despotic, a kind of feudalism where the 'lords' decide what to do with the wealth of the 'peasants' or even the wealth of 'lords' that are much larger than them. How would this look to major companies and investors wanting to get involved with Blurt? What would be their reaction to this? I don't think it would be good for Blurt to take the funds and run with them for an experimental project that may not even succeed. If they want to bring more liquidity into BSC or Cosmos, that is fine, but not through the options suggested.

I see many ethical issues.


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

if they can do it to anyone, they can do it to you also


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

So far, I saw the matter discussed twice (by wtp and outofthematrix blog sites) and twice the community said "no" to it. Do you see it happening anyway?

I find the discussion under outofthematrix blog very informative and also the people who thought of using unclaimed accounts as a good idea, took the idea back. That is what comments are good for, to reveal the different perspectives and voices.

Apart from that, there is no absolute safety, nowhere. The moment you connect with the world (either via your computation device or in physical space) you need at least SOME trust.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

well, i don't think anyone can vote your bitcoin out of your private wallet


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  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

I think anything can happen if people put their will behind something and push hard enough. Nothing is safe, that is my stance on most of things in life. Of course, I would like my accounts to be safe and as you know me a bit, I always talk against any measure which seems to restrict property.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  


digitalassetbuy#

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

why the hell would an agreement to purchase a token (not a "security") have to be "registered" as a "security" ?


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Boston Legal.
White Paper.
Registered Security.
Tokenized Asset.


New York
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Crypto Conference
Bank Man

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

digital beanie babies


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  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

Ratioed


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

We all see ( with honesty ) the ethical issues ...
The point of the founders was not to ask the community , it was to do this move without much damages ...therefore they had to use words to
misguide the community into a yes vote and to not see attacks later on .

They can careless what the community thinks anyway
They just present their evil plan , like you would serve a cold dish in a hot plate...with a smiling waiter stealing your bag .

Centralised is a private business , in which only few chosen ones , win .

Thanks for your wise comment

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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

The ideology with which crypto operators came on the scene was that they hoped to counter fiat currency by leaving the banks out as intermediaries. To create a complementing currency and opportunity of trading and also using currency for direct exchanges of goods and services.

There is nothing at all wrong with a platform being set up, enabling recognition of this token as a value and seeking to establish it. It doesn't matter how much the programmers or founders put into their own pockets, as long as there is a relaxed attitude on the part of all those involved - whether investors or bloggers - that makes up the main part of the commitment and movement.

By focusing on "unjustly acquired wealth", you lose sight of the whole.

Those arguing here, each accusing the other of evil motives, are doing nothing but fouling the crypto scene on the whole and contributing to the general field of perception that crypto platforms that are not state-founded (or by other so called recognised institutions) are rotten eggs, fraudulent organisations and unregulated markets.

By doing so, you will contribute to the public, which has little or no knowledge of crypto-based blockchains, seeing any prejudices confirmed and the rather uninformed mass of people wanting to place themselves once again in state hands or a strong regulating hierarchy, as the trench warfare within the smaller or even larger cryptocurrencies seems to give every reason to do so.

From this detached perspective, any personal loss of investment made is one that is due to the novelty of the technology and the rapidly changing price movements of the market, and not primarily to individual - admittedly clumsy - actors of the blockchain operators themselves. Even if this is the case, it is not expedient, but on the contrary, very damaging, to hold one's own displeasure in front of oneself like a heroic shell.

If you are in anyway whatsoever interested to support complementing krypto operators and you don't want to be regulated and ruled by corporate or state interests, I recommend that it is wiser to overcome all differences to the blurt operators and act as a bridge between the opposing forces instead of taking a side to one or the other.

If you really believe in field theory, and think that everything we put into the field of perception and communication also comes out again somewhere and seeks to manifest itself, this would be an attitude more suited to not fighting on the horizontal level.

If not many currencies in the crypto space manage to hold on and establish themselves as complementary tokens, the stronger forces will, as usual, take over the entire market and thank - not officially, of course - all those who had their entertainment in the decline and differences of the small and medium cryptocurrency platforms.

No matter how one personally feels about the operators, it would be wise to wish success to each platform as they collectively contribute to diversity in the entire field. I cite Hive as an example where there are many bloggers who are not interested in the trench warfare and for that reason alone they add vibrancy to the sphere. Because they don't care who makes how much profit and instead mind their own business.

It is annoying to make losses, that is true. When the loss is great and painful, nothing can bring it back or make up for it except getting used to starting all over again either here or elsewhere.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

There will be a relaxed attitude when founders actually care about their project and help the whole community , by trading their coin for the sake of helping the price and stop pointing fingers at all investors ( who supposedly are crashing the price ) ..when it is them who do so by only mining more and more for themself
( and now planning on stealing 175 M of them in some holders wallets , only to add them for their own benefits in THEIR own wallets ) ....and ironically wait for more investors to give it value ...total nonsense ...
one of the founders with who i chatted a lot does not agree with this nonsense either and regrets heavily being part of this moronic gang , but stays , to take as much as he can out of resentment ... he knows and i know Blurt could be way higher in price for a long time now and helps everyone ...

At first , i too , thought it was genuine , ( good nice speeches help in keeping the sheeps blind ) until i read MK posts and chatted with that founder.... everything is clear as day and nothing is done to help the community .
I call it a ponzy scheme .... but i ve invested so i am staying for my staking .

But i thank you , evenThough , i do not agree fully with your point of view , you kept your comment clean , i do wish success to all the platforms even if it is more a dream state .

  ·  2 years ago  ·   (edited)

Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your observation to make clean comments.

A sphere in which people act lives from its optimistic and equally pessimistic currents. There is no place in this world or on the internet where this is different. If the actors in the sphere do not experience a constant influx and outflow, it stagnates. Therefore, there is always a need for new actors who are optimistic, so that something will move again, and for those who leave in order to be optimistic again somewhere else (although this can also be described as an illusion, because ultimately nothing can be relied on to always remain confident).

If there is an excess of pessimism, mistrust, envy, anger and disappointment, and if people look for someone to blame, and if such things are increasingly expressed, the entire sphere is affected. It can be observed that people feel a certain fascination for such anger and blame each other for failure.

Which they will be right about when the failure is finally perceived as all-encompassing. Of course, one can always change one's mind and not care about what is going wrong and stoically and steadily ignore that something is not going according to one's will and wishes. The more people ignore this and pretend that there is no reason to argue, this too will take hold of the entire sphere.

How those who seem to have a greater influence on the prize move and act in this sphere depends on the many others, because in the end even the powerful go with the wind that blows the steadiest.

The millions you are talking about here are worthless if they cannot be traded. They would have to be exchanged for other currency by the big stakeholders, for example, so that they can enrich themselves with them. To the extent that these people no longer have an interest in this blurt sphere, they would neglect it, so that eventually others who still have an interest would take over the blockchain. This always exists as a potential possibility and can be achieved either through offensive combat or through a very long breath of strategic views and considerations. Which would require from the founders side to invest into this sphere.
Such would also require a relevant number of enough people to be positive to make the effort worthwhile. Since one can never really predict the outcome, it is again a matter of optimism to help ensure that enough people are here and committed. If that fails too, the sphere is likely to be completely abandoned at some point and no one will expend energy on it. That too can happen.

So personally, if you want this to succeed, to turn your loss back into a profit, you pretend everything is fine, keep buying in with Blurt tokens, and spread optimism (even though you are uncertain). You invest despite your bad experience because you like the place or want to have more influence yourself, for example. If the open fight doesn't bring anything (that's also never really safe) and the power always remains smaller than that of your opponents, there's not much you can do.

The people who, being small fry, don't invest and take a look, won't necessarily want to follow any of the fighters, so they get the impression of pessimism and take a wait-and-see attitude. The fact that you can currently buy blurt for a ridiculous price and that this is not done conspicuously often indicates a rather pessimistic or depressed attitude. Which brings us full circle.

Putting in high engagement despite depression is the challenge. While it's easy to be engaged when things are running smoothly. As always in live.

Frustration is probably the worst advisor in such matters.

Nothing is over until it's really over :)

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I have wrote a post to answer you but i want to add that blurt price has always been at a ridiculous price
Hence the possibility to buy manymanymany millions , even more today .
But nothing compare to steem or hive or whaleshares in its great days .
It is way much more than pessimism .

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I saw that, not sure if I haven't already said everything or if I would want to add something.
Thinking pause...

I would say that the higher the expectation you have of a new environment, the deeper the disappointment when it is not fulfilled. Setbacks are, I think, something normal in life. Where is there paradise except in the biblical metaphor?

If you want to orient yourself to ideals or values that each of us knows, no one can stop you from doing so. What can stop you or make you depressed is that many others also fall into depression and wish there were enough people who would continue to orientate themselves to these values despite adversity. Not because it is easy, but because it is hard.

Everyone is their own harshest judge, but in order not to hold judgement against oneself, one likes to hold judgement against others, that too is easier than looking at why one had high expectations in the first place, for instance.

Each sphere has the potential of numerous dialogues. Developing relationships from this beyond online life is probably something that could well be practised more often, but the nature of blogging in the seven-day window probably runs counter to that. But where relationships only happen on a virtual level, they have little chance of being accepted as genuine.

Who among the people here would you invite to your home?

Even and especially in business life, it is primarily about relationships, even if they are talked down and it is supposedly only about money. I don't think it's really about money. Anyone who only wants to make money without a relationship can only be disappointed because he or she basically knows exactly that something like an easily earned, passive income is an impossibility. Doing business is much more linked to the will to do more than nine to five, to work constantly, to invest a lot of energy and yet at the same time to know that there are no guarantees of success.

If you look at the passive earners on Hive or elsewhere and say "but they have so much without lifting a finger!", I would reply that they lift plenty of fingers and indulge in tasks that are no fun. Anyone who plays the police or the prosecutor all the time loses all joy in existence. I don't envy the role of a super-earner. A lot is demanded of them and they can never please anyone anyway. I wouldn't want that much stress, not even for a lot of money.

Where are you located, may I ask?

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I was just presenting some facts , anyone can read them as they wish and we move on because yes , not many people care and we cannot stay stuck on things , it will move if enough people and energy is given into it .
Not like it stops me to sleep at night , it is a freespeech platform and we can openly talk about the plateform , it is a great thing .
Maybe someday , mentalities will be different and it will change for the positive of everyone .
Fingers crossed

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

I think it reflects life itself. There are ups and downs and you never know when and how exactly these movements will occur. The uncertainty is actually something one can embrace. It'll make losses easier. I think one can rely on that mentalities will be different if the place is still being played on. That depends on the single actors, yes.

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

right, ok, but if people can simply vote to take coins out of your private wallet, then there is absolutely no point to "supporting crypto"


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

People come up with all kinds of strange or weird ideas. If they start talking with others, like it happened here, they change their mind. Talking is okay, also, if one may not know or understand the background of what he or she suggests. That's what the community is for, don't you think?
As far as I know no accounts will be deleted. This last blog I did not perceive as an official poll or quest for votes but a discussion.
I remember we had this debate some time ago when wtp brought it up and the two of us argued against it.
Controversies will always happen and that one is certainly not the last one.

There was no claim drop, there was a Steem hardfork and air drop.
Fake stake removal would make more sense than the thievery they are planning


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  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Indeed , an airdrop ..it is like adding money in someone s wallet as a welcome .
Today , with new projects , they make sure people need to claim , which removes
The problem .
They are planning on removing the airdrop from the wallets ( stealing the gift )
And use the 175M coin for their own benefits .
It will disappear but wont be burn the way they say ...only "relocated"
I think community needs to understand that point , because as usual they know how to speech and hide the truth .

  ·  2 years ago  ·  

Scenario 1:

Calculate how many Hive tokens you would get if you exchanged 175 million blurt tokens. Then you would have Hive tokens, but you wouldn't be a power player, because all the big stakeholders on Hive have a lot more. So there's not much to be gained, unless you're content to be one fish among many. Or you exchange your Hive tokens for another currency, again you would be one among many. Then why founding Blurt tokens in the first place?

Scenario 2:

To the extent that these millions would not be exchanged for other cryptocurrencies, but would flow into the wallets of the founding members, that would be noticed, wouldn't it? Don't you think that would be doing yourself a disservice, since the community has obviously spoken out against such an action? If you did it anyway, you would further damage the whole sphere. Now they would have plenty on their account, but what to do with it when people are shouting "foul!" everywhere. Which they do.

Scenario 3:

the millions would go into the wallets and the founding members would use this to distribute fatter upvotes to the community. Some would still cry "foul!", but others, benefiting from such fat upvotes, would become optimistic and continue to strive and want to make the cause palatable to others as well.

Scenario 4:

The millions would be shuffled into the wallets of the founding members, but into accounts that do not bear their names. They would appear anonymously and it would be untraceable, for instance. Now these "new" actors would act as new investors and give out fat upvotes, because they have to do something with all their money. There would be no outcry because nobody would know about it. Again, there would be no point in cashing out or trying your luck elsewhere, because you would always be just one among many. Because blurt tokens are worth too little overall and are only exchangeable to a limited extent.
It would still be a risk if those whose unused accounts were eliminated got wind of it and got upset. At some point, that would come out.

What I am saying is that money has to be in circulation for it to be worth anything. An entrepreneur who pockets every profit and does not reinvest in his business is an idiot and will sooner or later suffer from such behaviour and never get off the ground. To get more, you have to give more. In the same way, an entrepreneur who pays his fellow actors well but cannot actually afford to pay them will be missing out.

He who simply sits on his money without putting it into circulation enriches neither himself nor others with money.

Of course, money is not the only thing. You can also enrich people through attention and interesting conversations. Or through art, poetry, painting, philosophy, etc.