Now that the Blurtlatum front end is no more, all of us rat packers who are looking for a platform where we won't be censored by a bunch of woke libtard tossers were freaking out a bit.
So it's great to hear that @fervi has set up a new front end:
https://blurt.intinte.org
You can read an update here:
https://blurt.intinte.org/polish/@fervi/experimental-fervi-s-condenser#
I'm not at all sure what the final URL will be but to escape the blurt.blog mute got to this one:
https://blurtlatam.intinte.org
It has some full on cutting edge Polish tech!
Although it still looks just like censored Blurt.blog at this point, it is a working alternative frontend, promising to soon remove the reply muting bollocks, so I've already switched to using it.
Many thanks @fervi
fireworks in Poland
Good to know about this new front end👍
I'm not sure we really know much yet but there is a sniff of freedom so I'm all keen to try it out
Is blurt Latam never coming back? I like mute personally for ppl who literally spam your page, harass you constantly, or you don’t want to be drawn into pointless debates with that will never come to anything useful. I mean when dealing with an extreme narcissist or someone who just gets personal with replies and can’t stay on topic, block is rly the only option, it would even be advised by a psychologist as the best way to deal with them, but I don’t believe anyone should be censored. Mute and censorship are really different things, muting is just keeping your own little bubble that doesn’t drain your energy, it’s like choosing friends on fb or in real life, you don’t have to hang out with everyone all the time, if you had a random guy / girl you didn’t like, who had your phone number badgering you and calling you a loser every two days on WhatsApp and not taking no reply as a hint, you would surely block them no? censorship is stopping someone from having a voice on their own page. I’m against censorship but I don’t consider muting people as censorship personally.
It is all confusing but my understanding is that BlurtLatum is not coming back and BlurtIntinte is a potential replacement for it.
As you know I'm also on the Bastyon platform where I am more financially invested, and on there, muting is standard practice. But there is a much bigger problem with bots and spammers, and a lot more activity in general. On Bastyon I have 116 accounts blocked!
I'm not opposed to muting, I'm opposed to censorship, and after being essentially banned from both Steemit and Hive I'm watching out for signs of it.
When the covid hoax first was being rolled out I had a lot of arguments with mask wearers - not just the nazi dickheads trying to enforce them but the sheeple "just wearing them" - they didn't grasp that submitting at that point was the first step to becoming the broken and controlled slave society we are in now.
And I view the situation on Blurt as being very similar - at the core is a fake, trumped up little dictator, who wants to control the platform and steal all the money. And I think making any kind of deal with him is a mistake, and that you are being played. That is why I think we may be on opposite sides for a while, but I've made very similar mistakes in the past and learned from them.
I would never block someone over an opinion I don’t think. I have very equally strong minded friends and we regularly disagree. I’m generally attracted to strong minded people so it’s always a melting pot of beliefs lol but we never ever make things personal, we never slag each other off or take it off topic, we keep things private and we all just laugh after and immediately drop debates and get on with being friends. I actually even have family who debate, most my christmas days were spent with my parents and grandparents getting into huge political debates thst could get super heated, I’m very used to different opinions lol but I’ve never ever fallen out with my family for more than a few hours. For me it’s more communication styles that lead to me muting more than opinions. Personally I enjoy a good debate here and there but I also am working on minimising my online time full stop I rly don’t want to get drawn into this huge back and forwards that get nowhere and include hurling abuse or always disagreeing just to disagree. To me it’s just a waste of time and takes my focus off doing things that are making my actual real life better. Of course you can just ignore but sometimes seeing the replies it’s hard to not reply etc and it goes on and On even if you left the conversation. You only have yourself to blame so it’s best to be the one to remove yourself lol. The best is when I see ppl constantly replying then saying ‘ leave me alone’ or ‘just stop replying’ lol. I’m not into taking away others free speech though and stand up for that, but I also don’t agree someone just has to stand there and have abuse hurled at them and not have the option to remove themselves from their field. Sure in an ideal world we all evolve to the place we are not drawn into any discussions when we want to instead focus on work or spend less time online or just totally ignore and not be at all bothered by ppl who don’t leave us alone but till then unless I want to spend all day going back and forwards with pretty pointless discussion I need to mute a handful of them lol I think to date I’ve muted 3 ppl on blurt all for their communication styles none for opinions.
116 accounts blocked lol?! For what isn’t it super alt truth over there? What did you do? lol My problem is I struggle to use it on my phone so have to be sat at the computer and I hvnt been for a bout a week. They rly need to make these apps a bit more high tech.
mainly these two types - spammers like islam123 who posts spam so everyone blocks him, so he sets up islam1234 and starts again - they add up
and then there are people who block everyone they disagree with - so i block them back - one boasted that he had blocked 650 accounts - then he decided i wasn't as annoying as he thought so he unblocked me and started moaning that there was no content!
On a side note what did happen with latam? Did the guy just give up or?
A little also depends on someone’s status too like if Gordon Ramsay comes into my restaurant and criticises my food I’ll listen even if he’s a bit rough In his communication style cause he has something valuable to share and is wanting to help by sharing, it’s worth putting up with a bit of ego to hear it.
Re the deal? I haven’t struck any kind of deal with anyone, I just have access to a delegation account to upvote people, there are no rules with it and if I feel like not doing it anymore I can stop tomorrow. It was actually my comment in a thread where I suggested it because it largely went unused or was just used to upvote the same two people so I am glad to see I can spread it out a bit more. I’ve actually never hated megadrive at all. I did complain about some of his actions very openly and I don’t see that happen anymore. I’ll always stand up for free speech and not stopping people from earning money for an opinion. I can’t soeak about printed stake cause I truly have no idea whatsoever on how you tell these things and without some basic understanding can’t form any opinion on it. Maybe if someone can actually sit down and explain it in a basic 101 way I could try and form some kind of opinion but most of the conversation on it just goes over my head.
Cool - I'm pretty wary after more than six years on these blockchains - but if you are happy with the set up at this point that is great. It's not usually in my nature to be on the fence but in this case I think things have been getting a bit overheated!
I fight for certain things that I really feel are core elements to fight for then not on others. Everyone has to choose their battles or you would be fighting all day lol. I actually don’t mind site rules, as long as they apply to everyone equally and no one is blacklisted from earning, I also don’t mind perosnal muting at the end of the day if someone mutes everyone they end up with no content. Like I said I truly see these chains as a chance for artists to make some more money to supplement their creative pursuits because I know how hard it is to get started and stick to your true authenticity when doing so much ‘free work’ to get started. I built a whole career in photography and know how useful these blogs would have been at that time. For me curating actually allows me to build the things I value about these chains and I know other people value other things. The only things that would stop me curating was being told I couldn’t curate the people I wished to. I don’t mind being told don’t upvote nudity, swearing etc as it’s someone else’s stake and they can have rules absolutely... although we don’t have rules, but I would only really decline this opportunity if I started being unable to upvote people I wished to or I was told to downvote ppl etc other than that even if I don’t think the site is perfect I’ll continue to do what I can to help individuals blogging and the site grow. as you can see I was willing to get into arguments, get my own posts downvoted and leave a site I was earning 80 -150 dollars plus a post on juSt to follow my values. My values might be different to others tho, if ppls are so so different I do think at some point they have to consider just leaving rly or building new front ends I think even megadrive supports new free ends rly that help keep everyone happy.
You were earning 80-150 dollars a post? - Holy cow it's been a long time since I've seen that! (Steemit 2016)
Art + conspiracy - check out this guy's site - awesome
http://mileswmathis.com/index.html
On one of your other replies you mentioned Bastyon and not being into phones...
I hate phones and only use mine to send about three one line texts a week - I never use it for anything else, I keep it in a different room and don't answer any calls.
But Bastyon runs as both an app and a website. And the app works on PC's as well as tablets or phones
I use both - I use the app running 24/7 on a laptop to run a node which pays me about US$30 a day, and swap between website and app on both PC and tablet.
This post is one of the most thought provoking poss I've ever seen on Blurt:
https://blurt.blog/matrix/@opidia/clones-archons-demons-blockchains-and-cryptos-and-matrix
I didn’t realise it had an app how do I download it?
Yeah towards my end on hive I was regularly getting 60/80 dollars sometimes 120 and I got 450 dollRs on a travel one that got obliterated down to 80 by whales. 40 /20 was like my lower end. I still walked away from it and got involved in arguments defending ppl getting downvoted. Never say I’m not someone behind my principles that money was useful too as I lost every single bit of work over covid
I didn’t read it all but I think something similar to her on that topic and it’s why I now use mute and see the lesson that I don’t need to finish off every conversation to the bitter end lol. It’s a field day for energy vampires and it’s perfectly acceptable to just not bother or want to reply to someone’s comment and just say have a nice day. It can be a real waste of energy. Like right now I’m in between leg squats at the gym that’s a decent use but if it eats into productive time which it has many times for me on conversations that are not mutually enjoyable then it’s rly not even being nice, it’s kind of being fake rly. Social can be amazing I’ve sold work / got jobs: shared my work/ met boyfriends and friends online but when it starts to use you it’s rly bad energy and that’s exactly what I mean when I say that I’m fine with muting. It’s not damaging freedom of speech to protect ones energy and life force and spend time in the ways you want. It’s also ok to ignore comments we shouldn’t feel we have to reply to absolutely ever comment I hVe no issues if someone just stops replying I respect that they have more interesting things to do
I feel right now ppl just want to fight or pick apart everything before it’s happened I heard a post was made about me curating in some kind of circle jerk before I had even been given the log in key 🤣🤣🤣 like wtf is wrong with ppl, I think ppl have gotten over heated and need to just chill off a bit because it’s at the point ppl jump to conclusions with even zero evidence these days and it’s close to getting where you just want to stop even using the platform rly.
Exactly. No deal. Just part of a solution to blurtbooster and other bots not being ideal...ie curating opidias plagerised stuff.
So problems are being solved. But since in took a couple weeks instead of a couple hours....it gave lucy and company lots of time to tell everyone that we are all do nothing, currupt, pieces of shit! Lol now he s buddy buddy with opedia which is even more hilarius.
@frot....it s easy to paint a picture of corruption and mal intent from megadrive and now myself and others who have been pushed up into certain positions...but now on the inside looking out and in good communication with everyone I used to despies....I can with 100% certaintly tell you, things are more complicated than assumed, things take longer to get done too. Part of this is because non of us earn shit at a half penny blurt, and all of us have other priorities outside of blurt.
Ofcourse foolish decision have been made in the past, but again with me, outofthematrix UVmag all in good relations and in good communication with megadrive....he now has some very good people around him, and he can and is leaning on us to help drive this thing in the right direction.
That is a huge huge huge point!!! And it should not be dismissed or spun. Which is the main thing being attacked. Like I m being adopted by darth vadar or something. Lol
So, if you and other s think I personally have changed...I have not. Im just busy keeping an eye on things in the private discord chat. Where decisions are made before going public. You and others have no clue what I have already done to influence things from happening or not happening...and Im sure you would be quite pleased.
I see one of my main roles as making sure no horrible ideas somehow slip to the top. Meanwhile Im avoiding drama and conflict which just puts attention on BS negativity and wastes my time.
Anyway, I always liked you a lot and I would't even be on Blurt if it wasnt for you. So thank you for understanding that I'm just doing all I can to turn lemons into lemonade.
Also, I ll soon be starting a new business account for my real life business here on Blurt. And it will demonstrate why the mute button is extremely important for the individual account owner and I do not at all see it as a blanket censorship on the platform, cause it clearly is not. Im in full favor of my page is my page and I can write whatever, post whatever, and mute whoever....my blog, my user experience. I think its for the best, especially when I start my business account. I just can t have people trashing me and my business on my blog for paying customers to see. Without the mute button for this instance I would be forced to use another platform....like facebook.
As I said to Ultraviolet - if we seem to be on opposite sides at the moment it's nothing personal. But I do think megadrive has a history of being two faced and fake so I really don't trust him.
I'm not into any of this Blurt warzone stuff - i feel like I already live in a society like that and don't need more online. But going back to Steemit I have a history of being censored on blockchains by people like megadrive. And deep state platforms like fakebook are not really an option even if I wanted to hang out there - I actually do have three FB accounts each with over 500 friends, but I can't post any real content without being blocked.
I'm hoping to keep using Blurt on a front end not lorded over by megadrive, as well as Bastyon where I make a good return running a node and have a fairly popular account, but am embroiled in a different set of disagreements with the developers, Gab where I can literally say or post absolutely anything I feel like but there is no interaction at all, and my own WordPress site where I decide everything but again no interaction.
Ofcourse...no war, arguements, BS, attacks, or hurt feelings from your end. That s why you are so damn cool in my book. Interesting what you say about the other platforms. Yes they all suck for the reasons you point out. And thanks again for not falling in line with those who would prefer you speak out about how much I suck....hahaha I ve gotten pretty decent amount of that lately. Lol
Team Frot for the win!
It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Twitter. There’s a group on Facebook that helps people get fake vaccination certificates and travel without vaccines it was up throughout the entire pandemic are never ever got brought down you just have to be a bit careful with your words. The main trigger ones I just change to other words. I know it’s a pain but I’m just saying there are ways around it when it’s purely triggered by bots and words.
I doubt we’ll end up on the wrong side of a war due to me because I’m not going to be in any wars I’m not on anybody’s side. If mega drive asked me to do something that I don’t feel comfortable with then I’ll say no I’m not an idiot. If he asked me to do something that I agree with I’ll do it. I have my own personal compass and my own personal belief systems and if you don’t like those that’s fair enough but they aren’t the same as somebody else’s.
Talking about trashing business I had some girl on Facebook who I got into an argument with about something totally different from my main page go to my business page and say she’d ordered something and it was terrible and shite and broken and Facebook wouldn’t even take it down what a fucking joke you should definitely be able to delete peoples comments. In the end I just had to remove my reviews from the page because it did look bad. At least on Etsy and eBay people have to actually buy something and the team are pretty good at removing comments that are not related
For real....I'm looking forward to demonstrating a whole new use for Blurt that is only possible because the mute button exists. If it did not exist, I wouldn't even consider taking the risk. Especially after the BS I experienced this past week.
OPEDIA - This new post is one of the most thought provoking posts I've ever seen on Blurt:
https://blurt.blog/matrix/@opidia/clones-archons-demons-blockchains-and-cryptos-and-matrix
Yes I think a combination of powercuts and flooding in Venezuela made it too hard to continue
I do see that side of it too, but im no fan of any of the stuff megatwat is doing, and think this is going to become an all out Blurt war. If we end up on opposing sides for a while it's nothing personal.
Tbh I’m over going to war full stop. It’s wasting my time and draining lol I want to focus on becoming a better artist and spend time practising not arguing with Random ppl online about every little thing that’s not rly important to my life. For me these platforms have always been mostly about helping creatives find a secondary source of income to give them freedom to create art and write. I know they mean more than that to others but that’s how I always saw their main function for myself. I’ll always fight to keep a place free so people can create without fear of being silenced or their money taken away from them so they can’t earn if they have a certain opinion but otherwise I’ll leave it to people who know more than me. I have no idea how to even check who is printing tokens so that’s not my battle. I was offered to do some curating and I think it makes blurt a better place I enjoy being able to give a bit more weight to people creating great content. It doesn’t mean I am on some invisible side of a war. The only thing I’ll fight for is no downvotes or deplatforming based on opinions. But getting too involved in this just stops me achieving in my own perosnal life and spending the time and focus on my art. This is also why I mute ppl who are just draining of your life force because they vampire your energy and derail you from success. There is nothing wrong with blocking and ignoring ppl
Who are derailing you from acheiving and sucking your energy. Constructive fair criticism tho that’s useful and ppl are fools to block out that and not at least listen. There is a huge difference between gaslighting and constructive criticism. The first is draining and exhausting and will never lead to any kind of balanced conversation and imo is best blocked out, constructive criticism will help drive and propel you forwards and leave you feel energised. If ppl don’t wanna mute I respect that too cause it can help you work through all triggers to the point nothing at all bothers you. Both ways have aspects that can work for the individual. But to be transparent I’m not on any side of a war I don’t know enough about other than the freedom to earn and speak war.
Thanks for have a conversation on my post!
I'm going to copy and paste this reply to everyone involved because I think this is what social media is really about, but somewhere along the way it has been subverted into something very different and that has really killed it.
It's not about agreement, it's a conversation. You are all clearly not bots or contractors pushing an agenda.
While I do think replacing corrupt egotistical dictators is crucial for the success of any social media platform (or society), I also think the free exchange of ideas is crucial as well.
Feel free to disagree!
For me it’s the level of disagreement. So if someone engages and we sometimes agree and sometimes don’t I tend to get into interesting debates with them. Especially if they don’t get perosnal and stick to the topic at hand etc. If someone literally just only ever comes onto posts with a long negative post and never writes anything positive and just basically disagrees to disagree / they make it personal/ they gaslight and never own up to anything at all and just say your always ‘crazy/wrong or oversensitive’ and attempt to diminish you rather then actually debate or it ends up with a huge back and forwards that’s getting absolutely nowhere and never does and your wasting hours of time there then I think there are better things to spend your time on and a healthy person just walks away or mutes if they want to. I think each situation is totally unique. Obviously just having eco chambers of your own opinion is rly silly or trying to silence other people’s opinions on their own page. I think trying to force anyone to change their opinion point blank is probably a lot of what’s wrong with the world. You don’t have to like it or agree and I think it’s fine to just not think someone’s your kind of person but trying to force other ppl to think a different way isn’t right imo, sure debate to the death of both ppl want to but that’s about it.
100%
If someone wants to engage with me, argue with me, say things to piss me off, or get a rise or reacrion out of me....and I jump to their BS...then who is the puppet and who is the master? I too am done with "wars" and entertaining permanant antagonists on this or any other platform.
Actually this is a good way of putting it to be fair it’s not anything to do with anyone’s opinion that would ever make me mute them but it’s these, in my opinion, psychologically unwell people who constantly want to feed off people's energy I tend to mute ppl who purposely try to do anything to to get arise or reaction off someone and not leave them alone when you try to step away. I don’t hate these people because they have real issues but I’m not a psychologist and I don’t owe these people anything. No one ever got anywhere in life just constantly engaging with them, and if you’re going to ignore them what’s the difference really between ignoring and muting?. It’s called boundaries and we do need some of them in life IMO. If people literally cannot respect your boundaries then they have to go. I think eventually you get to a place with them where you just really don’t care at all, but life’s a process and having said that I still see people like Eckhart Tolle clean up his comment section or‘s team does and not respond to certain comments. If they want to waste hours of their own time making 100 accounts and continue to keep trying to get through to you when you don’t even read anything or see anything that’s up to them let them waste their energy instead of you wasting yours. It switches the power dynamic and stops them ever achieving anything in life, instead of you. Of course this is my opinion and the way I work if people want to never block anybody at all in life and work on just becoming completely untriggerable and respond to these people all the time back and forwards that’s their choice and I respect that. I don’t take away others free will to make choices, their path is between themselves and God or their higher self or whatever you want to believe. Guidance might change as well as long as you’re connected to your inner voice you know what you’re meant to be doing.
"it’s not anything to do with anyone’s opinion that would ever make me mute them but it’s these, in my opinion, psychologically unwell people who constantly want to feed off people's energy"
Exactly. The sad thing is, is that I agree with many of the ideas stated by certain people here. I just can't get behind the total disrespect and antagonistic ways of communicating and getting the message across.
It's like asking someone to pass the salt at the dinner table..."Hey! Retard! Pass the fucking salt!"
Good luck with that. lol
This is rly good
So that means that your blogposts thrown in between basically have little meaning for you and comments on them steal your time, so they give you a sharper rebuttal? I figured you would be interested in statements differing from your view, that is the way of all spiritual quest. That is most likely why I tested the waters with you.
But if you post to simply post something, as a break filler between your picture-painting publications, a disclaimer under each text would be helpful, saying: "Acknowledgement welcome, challenges not". ... This joke was on you, I could not resist.
You could ask MD and the other witnesses if they might actually program the mentioned editor tools for the individual user blogs, because it would be quite useful, because you can then leave out the comment section altogether, for example. I would welcome that option on occasion, if I didn't have the nerve or the time to take care of the comments section.
Of course, then you wouldn't receive praise and affirming comments, would you? It would be interesting to find out if you can live without feedback. The explanations you write regarding "I don't want to give time to it and I don't want to go to war" rather give the opposite impression. With whomever you have had a tough disagreement of views, it is observable that you cannot tolerate well being at odds with someone and have to go on talking to someone other than them about their impertinences that you have been challenged with.
Why not admit that you also somehow enjoy it, there's nothing wrong with passing the time with people who really get on your nerves. It can benefit you big time!
Since you imply you want to train yourself spiritually (if you're really serious about it), the very best exercise would be to not put on mute the very people who get on your nerves the most.
It would be as if you wanted to give up sweets and, in order to test your limits and how far your spiritual maturity has come, you still put some in the cupboard for you to reach at any time. And whenever you get a craving for sweets, you could open the cupboard, look at the sweet things and then decide to close the cupboard doors again.
For my part, I can say that I find you very provocative. So you, because I have my own maturation processes going on, were my currently chosen nemesis on whom to test how good I am at letting go. You provide plenty of occasions to do this because you like to talk to third parties about those who challenged you. It's only that one does not see this in the moment it happens. Otherwise, if one would see it, there would be no conflict in the first place.
If it were easy to leave the sweets, then you wouldn't need spiritual training, then all beings would be friends. Since we are all sinners, it is impossible that all beings are friends at all times.
Anyway, I challenged you and you are by all means not someone who rejects it and likes to counter it. I didn't see it as a waste of time to mess with you. I learned that there are people who provide me with occasions where I lose what I think I have in terms of spiritual maturity very quickly and then I know for myself: HaHa! So there's your result, you now know that, as always, there's no end to this development (no point at which you've "made it", but any person, no matter where and no matter who, can catapult you to the beginning! There's something funny about saying it to yourself like that.
Then, the question arises: Is it really you personally (or me personally) who gives me/you a hard time? I'd say "no". For I have never met you, never got in a fleshy presence with you and all what you may stand for what I detected as "unpleasant" is to be found as well in myself.
Then, it is easy to let go.
Until the next occasion comes around the corner, even the same person. And so on and so forth.
One might also say that it's very heavy to take it easy. But once you take it easy it loses its weight. But in order to take a thing as easy, it had to be difficult. LOL
Thanks for have a conversation on my post!
I'm going to copy and paste this reply to everyone involved because I think this is what social media is really about, but somewhere along the way it has been subverted into something very different and that has really killed it.
It's not about agreement, it's a conversation. You are all clearly not bots or contractors pushing an agenda.
While I do think replacing corrupt egotistical dictators is crucial for the success of any social media platform (or society), I also think the free exchange of ideas is crucial as well.
Feel free to disagree!
Is there is any place where many people meet that can be truly free? In the sense that I can say what I want without encountering resistance?
It is a matter of interpretation how much one takes disagreement as a personal affront or in a way trains oneself to try one's composure by this challenge. Agreement = affirmation of one's own. Conversation = The willingness to listen even to opposing or challenging arguments and verbal attacks. Ad hominem attacks are the most catchy and therefore the master attacks. They may not really be permissible, but you see them everywhere and with far greater frequency and intensity on all so-called social media channels. Banning them only brings out more of them. The art is to let the force bounce off you and if it doesn't (which is most of the time it doesn't), seek to fathom what it is that annoys you so terribly.
I think it is thoroughly exaggerated that hate speech is seen as abhorred, in fact I think it is very popular (thanks to widespread media distribution). To believe that only approval is a positive thing is deluding oneself. ...Every collective thrives on tests of endurance. If it does not pass them, it can disintegrate or become lifeless. Hate is only a hair's breadth away from love.
So I don't so radically agree with you that dictators are at work. Rather, I think most of the potential for conflict online is incompetence or unawareness/ignorance, rapid aggrievement, as well as a rapid weariness of all that is believed to be something honourable or noble. I call it the tension field in which boredom and excitement confront each other and one swings between these two moods as if attached to a hook.
Right now I'm experiencing a contradiction with your comment to me. I'm not a bot, right, so an automated response to your commenters talking to each other I find rather irritating. Are you interested in a conversation? With me? If so, I prefer a personal reply. Though I assume that longer conversations with me is not so much to your taste. LOL ;)
You write really long comments and tend to make things very complex.
But I do appreciate that you are commenting, so I quickly said so.
I am a very slow typist, in the time it would take to do a long reply i could do a picture!
I am not discussing rocket science. But well, no problem, I know you already a bit and I found out that you find long comments uninteresting in general, and you yourself never comment with a lot of words. I was irritated by this sudden invitation to disagree. And also that you praise manual convos and prefer to have them instead of bots. But used automated responses. LOL :D
Bye.
Blog posts have meaning to me but these back and forwards debates on the same topic, that isn’t really going anywhere and neither person is ever going to agree is a waste of energy for me personally and we all have to use social how we enjoy it. For me I do not want it to actually take over my real life but be a sideline with responsible use that doesn’t take away energy from real life goals. That doesn’t mean I write things I don’t care about.
Great comment. We are certainly on the same page with everything you mention here.
I’m not really on any side I make personal decisions for myself. Like I would vote to keep fervi in a witness chat, because he was voted in fairly, if he drops important info like personal passcodes then they need to be sent via other chats, but then I also believe in a mute button. I think some ppl over use mute and just go around muting ppl for effect whilst, still stalking their page or people mute it thinking they can hide their own posts, none of which is true on social but I really don’t see anything wrong with muting offensive people you don’t want to be badgered by constantly. No app will make it mainstream without a block or mute button of some kind as people want to control their environment to a degree and make social media and their own bubble a relatively nice experience for themselves. Why do you want to log on every morning and have some creep harassing you every day and having to see them pop up everywhere. No woman, especially, is going to want a page with no option to mute a crazy weirdo who won’t leave them alone or keeps writing offensive stuff every day. Nothing will go viral without a mute button. However, censorship is very different, I believe everyone should be able to put whatever the hell they want on their own blog. I don’t mind a few rules for front ends actually but they do need to apply to everyone equally across the board. Lucylin I have a huge issue with though personally as he is connected to my real life friend and disrespecting her and their supposed friendship by dropping everything on social media. That’s a perosnal issue though and nothing to do with blurt. I have never once dropped anything personal I know about him and nor will I ever, I keep it to myself because unlike him I respect and honour real life friendships.
If you propagate fairness for all, then the annoying people will try to convict you of your own fallibility. If it were so easy to create fairness for everyone equally, then no one would bother and you would have an infallible environment. But you don't.
It cannot be done. There is no fair sphere for everyone. Instead of leaving it at that, the criticised are seduced into wanting to devise something like a fair platform for everyone after all - or pretending that it can be done and perhaps believing in it themselves.
They will fail. No one who tries to regulate a sphere will and can be fair to all. But where you pretend that it is a noble goal, there will always be those who will beat the limits of that noble goal around your ears. They say, "Advertising is misleading" and so on.
In fact, everybody knows that advertising is misleading and based on exaggeration. So it remains an exaggeration.
Because you won't build a platform on it if you say, "This is an ever-changing environment with freshly motivated joiners and frustrated leavers all the time. The system lives on the enthusiasm and idealism of the newcomers, it grows when there is enough exaggeration. It splits when some think it is unfair and others think it is fair. Join in this dynamically changing and uncertain experiment! You are on your own, no guarantees of success, but invest your money anyway, who knows, you could make it if you spread enough positivism and we all create a thriving mass adaptive environment. So we too believe in the Bubble! Quality is irrelevant, as long as the machine runs!"
HaHa!
Everyone knows that's no way to advertise. By all means, you can put the golden cow of worship "decentralisation" at the centre of your marketing and I had a long debate just recently about how the functionality of a system is definitely decentralised but one does not perceive it as such - because individuals actually want things to be centralized and want to have "responsibles". It is the subject of hot debate and the very fact that it is, leads to the conclusion that no peace and joy space can last. Which is fine for that matter, as it IS a sign of a "no single entity is responsible space" - but when there is no one left whom one can point a finger at, it becomes boring as a space where you neither can blame the rich nor use the poor as a shield and argument against those riches. So then, this leads to the logical argument if it cannot be done for all equally fair, it only can be done for some, and not for others. This causes splits, and splits from the splits, so called "communities, where stricter rules are announced and shall be followed. You can either join them or create your own community with all the hassle which comes with it. For there, too, you will not have your "own" space, as the comment section still will be littered with individuals complaining.
I am not insulting you when I say that you won't be able either to create such an environment actively where "rules need to apply to everyone equally across the board", for I am totally certain that I could not do it myself and even could not do it together officially with numerous peoples.
Though it can be done, I guess, if nobody talks about it and all the talks about fairness and rules do not take place. It works perfectly where it remains unannounced, untouched and unobserved. It works excellently where no do gooderism is attached to oneself and no ideals are spoken of.
As long as it IS talked about and I talk to you right now, in my view, you regard positivsm and agreement as too high and devalue disagreement as something not useful. I think that you err in this respect.
I’ll leave @frot to attend to this one I need to focus on some real world stuff for the rest of the day now.
Er...thanks...LOL
I must have missed that ?
I do recall WTP posting a comment assuming things about a private , but publicly visible , transfer of coins from one to the other . Using it as dirt to smear on the penguin .
So who is dragging personal stuff disrespectful on to social media ?
And you are doing ???? ,. by placing this ???
if you would care to explain that would be much appreciated .
I keep personal friendships very private and honour trust between myself and my friends. I absolutely will never utter stuff I know about him because it is private and I know he prefers it that way, one of us has morals and I won’t even go into this further. There are things he talks about that come directly from conversations I have had directly with one of my very good real life friends. I understand that when you have a circle of trust to a point ie a mutual friend who we both speak to every day things will come up. The guy even knew I was at a damn car boot sale the other day because it comes up in conversation when someone talks to someone ever day, I understand and respect that and it is only an issue when one of the parties does not respect that triangle. It Will most likely cause damage in a real life good friendship. I couldn’t care less what opinion people have on a blockchain but not everyone wants that to seep into ones personal life and friendships. This is the only thing I will say on this topic because I am not going to get into any kind of fight over it or a she said he said type argument. It’s just not worth my time. But I am explaining why I have personal issues with a user and have muted and will never ever engage with anything outside of a meme. It has nothing to do with opinions on the site. I would really rather it was respected that there is a real life friend in the middle who is a sounding board for essentially two people at times and that everyone should rly just keep themselves to themselves on social media, which should rly be worth a lot more to everyone involved than a stupid blogging site.
May i ask ,. was this all on Blurt ?
As i said , if so , i must have missed them post's and comments .
Was it on a small community group channel like telegram , dicord or signal ?
If so ,. i wonder who is dragging things to where then ?
For realize i don't have any info on what happened outside blurt .
Then if so , where the things used in a disrespectful gas-lighting negative way ?
Or just small talk to communicate and bond some friendships ,.. witch you took for something else ?
Look , i don't know ,.. you ain't clear with specific info ,. to much seems left out to me .
Come with strong points or drop it and move on to other things .
Why keep dragging it ,. you muted him , still you keep mentioning his name ?
I see the positive side of the coconuts , i like manual curators , even do it seems a almost impossible challenge no matter who is delegating the stake . I saw coconuts voted and even you personally reblurting my last post . Thanks for that ,.. not for me , but for blurt . It shines a little light on freespeech , and i hope MD had some kind of grin on his face to when he saw it .
;-)
Thanks for have a conversation on my post!
I'm going to copy and paste this reply to everyone involved because I think this is what social media is really about, but somewhere along the way it has been subverted into something very different and that has really killed it.
It's not about agreement, it's a conversation. You are all clearly not bots or contractors pushing an agenda.
While I do think replacing corrupt egotistical dictators is crucial for the success of any social media platform (or society), I also think the free exchange of ideas is crucial as well.
Feel free to disagree!
Your welcome brother .
how can i disagree with something that purple ?
If i would , climate change might become one of our least problems .
;-)
It’s not something I want to discuss further because it’s messy enough having a real life friend that you speak to every day, speaking to somebody else every day that writes posts about you online and tags or mentions you almost every day of late. Unfortunately mute is only so good. I’m definitely not going into any details or discussing this further I’m just simply giving you the reason, which I’m completely entitled to do. It has nothing to do with me choosing a side or being in some kind of ‘war’. I literally have access to a Curation account which was very kindly given to me and I use it to vote any content that I enjoy Or think is well put together. I don’t have any rules on what I can vote and not vote and as you can see have voted plenty of things around conspiracy theories if you want to call them that and alternative truths. Personally I think that can make blurt a better place rather than having that delegation sat there doing nothing or just voting the same two people out of time constraints. It does not make me on any side of anything. I actually don’t even know enough about what’s going on To have opinions on certain things like i don’t even know how to even check if someone is printing stake so I definitely don’t have any kind of personal opinion on something like that and leave it to people who do. I do have opinions on some other things though and I always I’m honest and share my personal opinion that has nothing to do with being on the side, I rly don’t believe in sides at all it’s just a cause for unnecessary war.
I believe in your good intentions ,. just keep a good look out on the deeds you do .
Be sure they are truly just in all the light you can see .
:-)
I had a look yesterday and yes it looks no different to BB right now. Are they gonna get rid of the silly hearts as well as the 'supermute' function?
Also like ultraviolet asked, is blurtlatam never coming back?
From what freakeao said it does sound like Lucylin is to blame if we are to believe what he says. He mixed it in with Venezuela monetary collapse tho. So which is it?
It's all very cryptic. Also no-one came to explain to me or answer all my questions on my post about it. I had to go digging for the answers on other peoples posts.
PS I hope Fervi will sort out the trending page so it reflects ACTUAL trending posts and not what BB claims are 'trending'.
At this point I still know nothing about @fervi beyond the fact that he is Polish. Because of that (not understanding his posts) I've never previously followed him.
From the one post of his I have read, I got the impression that he was planning to roll out a new front end with a bunch of changes in a few months but has rushed it out now without any changes to replace Blurtlatum
Looking at what megatwat has said about him in the past he seems to be considered as opposed to "the foundation" and if that is the case I consider that a good thing!
I know a few things, like he was kicked out of witness chat for arguing so yeh he prolly has an axe to grind and doesn't agree with censorship.
Sounds like a good start!
That is the plan. In general, I have been creating various small projects on Blurt for a long time, e.g. BlurtCreator
https://blurtcreator.intinte.org/
It allows you to create Blurt accounts for free (I sponsor the creation of accounts myself). I need to improve 2 things about it, but overall it works well.
Unfortunately many projects are too risky. But maybe in the future it can be introduced.
For now, I have found Coal List in Blurt and am thinking how to defuse it.
would love to see that list 😜
that's the plan
Hoorah. How about the trending page being honest too?
Am using intine right now BTW
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