Thank you, very much appreciated when someone comes around the corner with book tips that aren't already promoted everywhere else. Will definitely read!
The question of whether Jesus was a real person is very exciting. You can make all kinds of theories about it and wonder, if he is a fictional character, why he had to be invented.
And if he is not, how is it possible that he became so famous even though he was killed by the authorities? The phenomenon of the martyr is worth considering, but there has hardly been such a martyr with such notoriety since then, in my opinion. Not sure, maybe Martin Luther King, though I think future generations will know him less.
If I follow the theory that Jesus is an invented figure, then I would say that it must probably be as bizarre and pointed as it is today. After all, it is said of the Roman Empire that it reached a level of decadence where modesty and humility could perhaps only have been achieved through an anti-thesis of that lifestyle and a role model that could have brought a very strong oppositional force into being.
But who should have been this force, hm...Especially if one assumes that "going viral" would have taken considerably longer to turn so many people into Christians.
Therefore, I can only imagine that the powers that be at the time created it themselves as a PR coup to reach so many masses. So many factors, which will remain unknown to us today since history is the least objective source of all.
Anyway, I am looking forward to dive into the text!
Glad you enjoyed it. I have read it once many years ago. To be honest I don't remember anything from the book itself.
The solar myth and the story of Jesus is a strange one indeed but I have gone over enough for me to be convinced that he never existed physically. But rather, an idea or a form of describing something of a power that we all posses the ability to attain.
I would say it would not be so far different than tavtics being used today. Controlling the education system, forced religions, propaganda, and genocide of those that opposed. "Get them while they're young enough, and you'll have your own monster of your own image as you see fit".
The thing is, there is no record of a man named, yeshua, Isa, Jesus etc that was crucified with that caliber of popularity.
When we tap into the topic comparative religions topic later, we'll see just how many people are convinced of the same storyline, with different thousand different names and personifications of the same story throughout almost the entire time there has been civilizations in existence.
I'll do my best to keep this going as smooth as possible, thabk you for commenting.
hm... I am still thinking. If Jesus was invented by the powers what benefit gave it to them to have a martyr? The figure of Jesus could, seen from a different angle, been an invention by the peoples themselves. As a counter figure for too much pressure of authorities, for example. Since Jesus represented the peasants, the simple folks. Born in a barn by poor people, a carpenter, talking to every one, the drunks, the whores and the outcasted and as someone who became a nuisance towards the rulers, finally being crucified. I always understood Jesus message as something to free the mind, not bending towards any worldly authority.
But however, I started to read but find it very difficult, for I am not a native English speaker. Let's see how far I get.
If Jesus was invented by the powers what benefit gave it to them to have a martyr?
It was never mentioned that Jesus was an invented idea by the powers that be. Nor do I believe that. Rather, as we will see further on, it's a borrowed story of the path that the sun takes in it's cycle. Jesus is a personification of the sun. Why was the sun given these stories told to be written down later for people to believe in?
I believe it was for agriculture means mainly. Apart from that it serves as a warning for us when natural cycles of events occur that could mean life or death.
For example, qe havr a sun cycle tjat occurs every 11 to 14 thousand years in which the sun goes nova but they never mention anything about the sun in any Main stream media outlets regarding that. But they do mention how every 11 to 13 thousand years "something" happens that causes mass extinction.
See "suspicious observers" disaster playlist on youyube for more info on this. The cia also knows about this and disclosed a classified document on it titled Adam and eve.
So something that, through oral tradition over time, went from one more cosmic/cyclical view to another, more related to the human being per se? That is quite possible.
The tradition without existing writing is difficult to evaluate for the past anyway. How people thought, felt and lived in earlier times is a mystery and can only be interpreted through findings from scriptures, depictions and grave finds.
Although today we think we can interpret a lot, even a slight difference in interpretation is enough to end up with completely different results.
If we assume that evolution proceeded as commonly imagined, from hunter/gatherer/nomadic existence to agrarian culture, to industrial culture and finally into the knowledge and information culture, we must assume for each era that habits and certainties were closely related to the daily living environment. Even the writing and language that can be deciphered from past eras must be treated with caution because language is complex and translations always work with certain interpretations.
However, I find it not so difficult to accept rises and falls of civilizations, in particular huge ones, for they are very prone to disturbances.
If you mean severe impacts through cosmic events like the actions of the sun, yeah, it is imaginable that mass extinction might be caused by our hot neighbor. I tend not to feel anxious about it, for if it happens, I cannot do anything anyways :)
Thanks for clarification.