Anyone here knows about private messages ?
Can you meet and talk and solve your problems instead of putting everything on the chain? Stop spamming it, really. You all need to be in coal. lol
I'm so pissed of all of this. I started my power down, and I'll see what will happen next. I also announced in @blurtcast that I will take a break from blurt !
What the hell ? Really ?
We are adult or not ? We all know that we have a problem on blurt, stop talking about it. Stop involving everyone in politics. What's wrong with people ? Ah ? !
Don't you know about private messages ? !
Go, and solve your problems there, let the content creators keep creating content, why you want everyone to be involved in this ?
After all, you'll do what you planned. People don't have to pick a side. People have their own life to care about !
So, why this show ? Why ?
Have some respect to those who are invited here. We are the community, we are inviting people. Not to watch a shity show, but to have a space where they share their content, where they will connect with others.
Or maybe it's a big collusion between both sides ?
If it's the case, so let it burn !
All this is making me crazy !
I hope you are not serious about this.
I understand your anger and I agree. We are not parties! They are neither able to go, nor can they choose to stay, nor do they know how to keep quiet!
Everyone dictates their own right to another. I read a comment yesterday.
This was a very accurate finding. I hope everyone cuts out the role they are playing and starts acting according to their age, mind, IQ!
I hope so. I'm glad I invited you here, a voice of reason. We need more of it. I'll always promote those who have some voice of reason, like @logiczombie and @leifasaur. We need to support that all and create a new side that don't take any sides, but do what's the best for the blockchain.
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Between the 3 platforms this was where the calm was felt, but now, I feel tension when I go to curate.... in addition to all the chaos in the real world, I have to see chaos and uncertainty on one of my favorite platforms.
I won't talk about it. But I'd like to ask you how are you doing today?
I'm angry today. lol Anyhow, I'm doing my best to not let this affect my life, affect my creation, affect relations with others. If someone is choosing war instead of peace, it's their problem. The only solution for adults to solve their problems is to contact each other, but not to fake the decentralization. Nothing is decentralized in this world, how proof of stake could be. lol
The last wish I have, that those big guys contact each other and solve their problems. Without involving people. People have their troubles to care about !
Private messages are to solve problems between two sides.
I do agree. But as you said let's not talk about it. I am worried you are angry. And I know it affects you.
Take some time off and make some videos. I once watched a video where you took us to a mall. Waiting to see more!
The problem is not for little guys to stop talking about it. If big guys meet and solve their problems, that will be good, but not putting everything in trending and creating a shity show. It all looks to me like an organized collusion to destroy blurt from both sides.
Personally I like it all being on chain, private messages on discord between higher ups and no transparency is what caused most of the issues and a lot of miss communication. Some people want everything on chain, some want everything private. Everyone on here wants something different from the platform. Everyone on blockchain has a say and a voice to direct the platform in some way, especially if a number of people are all in agreement, that’s the whole point of these chains rly if ppl only want to blog and have no say on anything then I think Instagram and fb are better options personally as you don’t get involved in any politics there at all. Of course some ppl just want to make a bit of money too and that’s ok but I don’t think anyone can tell other ppl what to post and not to just don’t follow people who you find annoying.
There is also 'mute and move on'
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Yes. The answer is very simple. One Blurt Blockchain with several Front Ends.
Dblurt.com
MBlurt.com
Blurt.blog
Blurt.one
Blurt.live
Blurt.nft
Blurt.coin
Etc
If I had some tech skills would do it myself. I would censor some words tho as I think a person could get into legal trouble. People can talk around them and use acronyms.
Censorship ? Censorship ???
No way … that is what dblurt is for … zero censorship.
100% free speech.
Let’s have some options …
100% Decentralized
80% Decentralized
50% Decentralized
100 % Centralized
More options. More Front ends.
Get building.
I don’t know if anyone would front a page like that cause of the legal ramifications. If someoen did I would use it though :) personally I think the happy medium is set censor words that fit with the legalities so it’s coded not personally decided by one or two rich ppl who is breaking a rule and who isn’t. I acruallt trust ai more in that way it’s not swayed by emotions
Zero censorship. Nobody in charge… so there are no legal issues.
We build it then just let robots manage it. No human involvement. Zero governance or Control.
Total Anarchy.
I’m looking for some robots to run it.
That’s cool I’m down for that
I like blurt.one or live for free speech
Live and let live 🤣
Already taken…. Those are built as backup for Blurt.blog ..
It will be Blurt.blog with back up Blurt.live + Blurt.one + Blurt.buzz ( built by Tekraze)
Then Dblurt.blog (Decentralized) with any other back ups people want to create.
Just stay happy buddy, if things continue i may not power down, but i will go inactive.
Hope we all can come back
I would like to say thanks a lot for your service. You served all the community very well, despite some don't understand how important your work is and the work of all developers who are working on blurt.
Look at the work of developers here : https://gitlab.com/groups/blurt/-/activity
I'm hopeful that you can stay strong during this storm. It isn't necessary that we all like one another, and in fact the very nature of the freedom here guarantees there will be friction at times.
I would ask that you not allow those agitating to dilute the value of those who can see and be thankful for the many things many of you make possible here. Your efforts and sacrifice ARE seen by some of us in the community. In fact two days ago I used you specifically to demonstrate the value we as a community obtain because of your generosity and vision to build something here for all of us.
https://blurt.blog/blurt/@practicalthought/rdvvae
I will check according to the situation if I stay or leave, not like permanently leave but stop interacting with people.
Thanks for sharing your views on this, but sadly people don't see this as you do.
I think everyone values and respects the devs here tbh and believes they should earn more
That doesn’t mean we always agree on opinions.
Exactly.
It is through a healthy examination of ideas that the best way forward manifests. It's when the examination of disagreements shift from the idea to becoming a personal attack as the main thrust that everything jumps the pale and loses the chance of a positive destination point.
This bizarre idea many seem to embrace that they must crucify those who hold ideas they disagree with is probably the single most damaging routine of human nature that has allowed for group enslavement.
Yeah I agree. I think irs Like what I said in my wall there are two sides which, might interchange and when ones freedom feels threatened they lash out and when the others safety net feels threatened they lash out. This was even the same pattern with masks etc and vaccines. The biggest problem in the world is that people want to take away peoples freedoms just to feel in control. I’ve defo snapped when people take away freedoms cause it feels inherently wrong and like we will end up living the 1984 lifestyle if we don’t ensure we keep our sovereign rights.
Good luck
It’s so easy to resolve these issues with a new Front end.
Multiple Front ends if needed.
People can choose which Front end they want to use and go there and never see the ones they hate.
Sometimes people are just toxic to each other and need different places to hang out.
Dblurt for @double-u , @ctime … Decentralized, Free speech including hate speech
MBlurt for @megadrive, @blurtbooster….. (or just Blurt) Mutable - hate speech can be muted.
Let them do that privately. People have nothing to do with this war. People have their lives to care about.
people should know if blurt reserves the option to freeze accounts
Jacob stated adamantly there would be no freezing of accounts. I was concerned if there would be an agreement by the rest of the Foundation (mega mostly) and his effort to extend an olive branch signaled that it has been accepted what Jacob said.
https://blurt.blog/blurt/@jacobgadikian/no-s
https://blurt.blog/blurt/@megadrive/let-s-parley
i could be mistaken
but my understanding is that jacob claims that accounts cannot be frozen
only that access to blurtwallet.com can be cut off
kinda like how dlease blocks transactions for any account on the spamminator blacklist
I would hazard a guess that's correct. Based on the effort they went to try appeasing double-u when they temporarily blocked the ability there to delegate to the VTS . They reactivated the coal list to try appeasing double-u, and when the VTS agreed to use the coal list they allowed delegations again directly which escalated the VTS wars.
I also note two things on this. I believe Jacob has made clear in many ways these last few days that NO ONE will ever be blocked from Blurt in any way shape of form for anything they say etc.
The second thing I would posit is that supposing some calamity happened and Jacob could no longer be here and positions changed. They only own and maintain the wallet app. I noticed when they had blocked the delegation wallet feature for the VTS that tomoyan was able to build his own interface and one could still go there and delegate because it wasn't anything in the code.
But I don't believe it would ever come to that.
I don't trust easily, and I was definitively done with social blockchain when I powered down from Hive. It was only because of Mr. Cornell talking of Blurt that I began investigating and everything I could find led me to Jacob. I trust him, trusted him before I ever met him. He walks the life for real, lives his dreams instead of only talking about them and I can only imagine that many of the ghosts he walks among are at times jarred from their slumber wondering how. He isn't like the typical programmer guy, nothing at all like a Larimer whose idea of a community is to fleece them and then move on and welcome them to come be fleeced again if they wish to commune some more. He has already completed the next project that is now testing legalities in test zones that has been airdropped to all (at the time of that snapshot) Blurt stakeholders. He values a community and understands that the real value of a project is the community and trusts that the value will rise to reflect that without all that manipulation and start up money the other projects had at their inception.
thanks for the info
you're the only reason i'm here at all
Thank you, that means so much to me coming from you.
Absolutely.
Edward Snowden
Julian Assange
Chelsea Manning
Anything to Say?
DEMOCRACY IN HISTORY
if there are "private messages" about "banning people" and "freezing accounts"
we should be informed
Not that, I mean lawsuit, and other crazy things happening. Why the two sides don't just set a meeting and solve everything they have. Why to involve us in that. If they communicated, but not kept arguing in public, this could be solved a long time ago, but from what I see, it's going just crazier.
there's a really good argument that nobody here should be using "private messages" (especially discord) for communication regarding blurt policy
each individual is given the option (via the "mute button") to filter out content they would rather not see for themselves
By muting some important accounts we may miss important information. That's why the only solution I see if they just contact each other and have a good deal finally. Do you see any progress in the public debate ? I don't see it.
https://blurtlatam.com/blurt/@megadrive/let-s-parley
https://blurtlatam.com/ethics/@offgridlife/rdzfjk
Nope.
Absolutely nobody is interested in helping me with this.
So I Will do it by myself with some consulting with @Tekraze who built all of the other Front Ends … https://Blurt.live https://Blurt.one and https://Blurt.buzz blurtlatam etc etc etc
My son is also enrolled in a course at Waterloo to learn Python, C++, Ruby and other coding languages … so he will help also.
We will build this all by ourselves. It might take a little time.
So your saying you want people you want to follow on blurt to only post clix friendly material lol do you realise how that sounds? You don’t want to mute someone but also don’t want them to post what they feel like / want to post. Come on now. That’s like someone saying they don’t want your wife to post vegan stuff cause it annoys them but they don’t want to mute her. Talk about lack of free speech. Ppl want free speech till it’s speech they don’t want generally lol
I noticed this just because you wasn't muted by blurtcast. Again inverting my words upside down. I was saying that I wanted those people to meet and to discuss their issues in private, and you're turning this like I'm against freedom of speech. Are you ok ? Or maybe you like this war to keep going on since you like drama that much. All I wanted is peace.
That's OK...
But by having private Discord servers your "miss important information" worry is even worse...
I'm not talking about private discord servers ! I'm talking about the two sides to contact each other and talk ! Why everyone is inverting my words upside down here ? I see two groups fighting, let them have a meeting and solve their problems, that's what I meant ! Or my English is not that clear ?
You can't solve something if one of the parties is adamant it is all or nothing. It continues getting crazier because the party seeking to take over has been ludicrous in their assertions and demands.
One could easily argue that part of this issue has stemmed because of lack of transparency.
We started off being transparent, the @socialgraph account even mentions the stake that the attacker wants to take over, https://blurt.blog/socialgraph/@socialgraph/socialgraph-foundation-budget-report-2020-08-09
Since then Blurt came under attack many times, and we felt it best to limit our attack surface, also not explicitly listing the full team to keep them out of the line of fire, but everything is on the chain.
Do you also not find it strange how the attacker is a Steem/Hive veteran who would know how to read block explorers and see which accounts are voting what, and only came with these demands/complaints 3-4 weeks before the expiry of blurt.regent? He also has been accumulating his stake for a long time, way before I antagonized them with my support for Ukraine, so it is doubtful I am the reason for wanting a clean slate, I'm just a scapegoat.
Me taking advice from Hive is also a flash in the pan, I approached some of the guys I always got along with well and asked if they ever had trouble with this user over there, that's all, people I served with as witness on Steem/Hive that I have no quarrel with, the tin foil hats however have come out to say I'm conspiring with Hive.
great point
THE Point ☝️
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