unshackled minds hive bullies

in blurt •  3 years ago  (edited)

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@frot asked me to take a look at hive today.


There are not many places I do not like, or people, but hive is one of them, and the mentality on there.

This is 1 of them, azircon, my account here is ironically named after him/her it.
I have seen this one account unmercifully bully so many people.

Here is a post he/she made last night with his justifications.

"apshamilton (70) yesterday

Why are you auto-downvoting perfectly good quality posts of @frot ?

You are pushing people away from Hive which is hurting all our investment.

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azircon (74)
(1) yesterday

Also, I am sorry @apshamilton ….

You call this a quality post?

https://peakd.com/pob/@frot/helping-out-a-friend-on

I call it a personal attack.

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apshamilton (70)
23 hours ago

I agree that the post you linked to above is a personal attack.

However this post https://peakd.com/proofofbrain/@frot/anti-vaxer-march-in-wellington is a quality post with original content informing people what is going on in NZ.

This is where I have a problem with auto downvoting.

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azircon (74)
(1) 23 hours ago (edited)

Please don’t worry about him. He is unwinding and leaving hive for a while. Just let him go. No loss.

By the way your investment in hive is doing very well. Hive is trading near all-time-high.

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azircon (74)
(1) 23 hours ago

Frot have been farming and funneling hive out for many months. I have a couple of developers looking into his accounts as everything is public

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Below is all the funds going out of grot.

Ash can do more hive sql query for you if you are interested

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apshamilton (70)
23 hours ago

I am not sure what you mean by farming or what is wrong with someone moving out their Hive.

If a post is plagarised, spam or personal abuse downvotes are appropriate.

However downvoting perfectly OK content on autodownvote of an account is not OK.

Also these withdrawal transactions appear to be the RESULT of all his posts being nuked to zero by your auto downvote.

If you have a problem with particular content then downvote it and explain why in a comment.

But don't auto downvote an account that contains at least some legitimate content.

This is contrary to the purpose of content curation (to promote good content and demote bad content) and is itself a personal attack.

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azircon (74)
(1) 23 hours ago (edited)

I rest my case with the chart above. Many thanks for your engagement.

By the way, this post of mine is a post about Splinterlands. I hope you are enjoying the game.

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apshamilton (70)
22 hours ago

This is relevant to Splinterlands - see my response to @abh12345 above.

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azircon (74)
(1) yesterday

Exactly. Frot is a spam artist and a thief. A dead weight on the system. He is on powerdown on all his accounts. He wants to go to blurt. I am just making his job easier. Don’t worry about him.

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apshamilton (70)
23 hours ago

You are making serious personal defamatory accusations here.
Please provide evidence that they are true.

His powerdowns and move to Blurt appear to be the RESULT of your auto downvote.

If you think that forcing people you don't like off Hive and onto Blurt is a good thing for Hive then understand that many other good people on Hive are watching what is happening and are starting to look at Blurt and other platforms.

If I have to go to Blurt to see first hand testimony of protests in New Zealand because you have forced @frot and others off Hive then I will fire up my neglected account there and start posting on both platforms.

I personally think its is important to have downvotes as well as upvotes but auto downvotes are an abuse of the system.

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azircon (74)
(1) 23 hours ago

Are you representing frot?

Otherwise this is where I end my discussion on this matter.

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apshamilton (70)
23 hours ago

No I'm not representing @frot.

I don't like bullying behaviour and I don't like legitimate content being forced off Hive.

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azircon (74)
(1) 23 hours ago

All my downvotes are manual."

https://hive.blog/splinterlands/@azircon/all-vouchers-gone

His replies are concerning for a site that claims freedom of speech is at the heart of it.

He/she, the masked moron takes offence to anyone that does not think like him/her, he/her also is one of the hive insiders from things he/she has said to me, and from his/her statements above, he/her and the entire cabal that is hive are rotten to the core.

If you do not swing far left, hive is not your friend.

I do not identify as left or right, I do not like politics or politicians.

I do not like bullies either, and hive is used for bullying, it is a childish mindset.

When you grow up you leave childish things alone, but not on hive it seems.

Powered down, buying blurt, forgetting hive.

Have a superb day ahead.

@frot, do not ask me to look at that vile hell hole again please.

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Yes, it was a pretty disappointing response by azircon to my legitimate questions as a lawyer and Hive witness.

I know many people have given up on Hive because of this sort of behaviour by certain people on Hive.

However, efforts are being made, by me and others to curb this behaviour.

Don't give up on fighting on Hive as well as using Blurt.

I have started being active on Blurt because of this sort of behaviour and I find quite a few people I followed on Hive here.

I'm quite interested in the social and technical experiment of Hive (downvotes & RC) vs Blurt (no downvotes and explicit charges for transactions).

I think there is room for them both in the true metaverse (the cryptocosm) of the future and that both will do well by giving choice to users.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Thanks for the comment, I must admit I thought your exchange with azircon was fascinating, you came out well on top, IMO. I have noted his abusive behaviour to other people like @lucylin regardless of what topic they post, it made me leave and many others, proof of stake and dpos downvotes for free is toxic, IMO and could be addressed if a downvote cost an upvote such behaviour may be eradicated, but I am not in a position to implement that.

  ·  3 years ago  ·   (edited)

Don't give up on fighting on Hive as well as using Blurt.

Fighting for what exactly? The system was designed for exactly this. There are other ways to combat spam and theft than a theft downvote tool. This is exactly why things were set up this way, and much like a Stockholm syndrome victim, they have brainwashed everyone into parroting why stake pool theft is good for everyone while it is used as a club against innocents daily.

Fighting for the continuation of such a disrespectful system, of both stake ownership, free speech and just plain dignity is not something I wish to fight for. I would rather spend my time and resources in a positive environment like Blurt where such respect is built into the structure.

By the way, welcome to Blurt. I hope that the more you are exposed to the respect found here you will realize Hive/Steem is the flawed version of what should be, Blurt. :)

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

However, efforts are being made, by me and others to curb this behaviour.

really?...interesting...

Don't give up on fighting on Hive as well as using Blurt.

The fun has just begun, now mt posting/comments, free of the d/v BS...I've been playing very nice for the last 9 months.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Yes. It’s a Free World … people can post wherever they want.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

True that.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Azircon is the tip of the iceberg,… there are many worse than her.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Is it a her or him? Unsure, hard to tell, but steemd leaves a trail a mile long.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Free Speech has been cancelled on Hive.

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  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I updated the article to he she and him/her as you may be correct, and I can not say for sure, I know it lives in Houston Texas though from past comments.

Of course we now have him making not so veiled threats of stalking and real world violence now too.

https://hive.blog/pob/@azircon/re-pube-r2w8ha

Also tracking where you walk your dog by the way ;) it’s not hard. I’d watch myself if I were you. Compared to you I have unlimited resources and there are people in your town who will be interested in you.

I wish folks would just stop posting there and come on over here. This emotionally charged dynamic only serve as a draw for Hive much like a boxing match and such. Stop giving them the ownership of intellectual work and stop giving them a spectator event that serves as an entertainment draw I say.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I agree, I keep saying the same, but people keep posting on there.
Azircon needs to watch them veiled threats, they could lead to legal action, and that account is easy to trace on steemd.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

"I have a couple of developers looking into his accounts..."

That statement got me, I smell that they will freeze his account/money. It is a very scary thing to invest in hive especially if you finally be the next target plus they also have double standards, big stake holders getting away with basic rules while strictly imposing it to another, coercing, intimidation, even child-like behavior of name-calling lol aaaaand jealousy.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

They froze some of my tokens yesterday for around 12 hours, I did get them in the end, but yes, double standards, by letting me have them back it saved me writing an article on here and court proceedings, but it comes down to trust, all mine is gone from anything hive, and yes that statement is bad, but the one about him walking his dog and death threat for frot were worse. That implied a direct threat to @frot life in New Zealand.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

That is so terrible which is why it really is so dangerous in Hive if you find yourself the next unfortunate target, they not only de-humanize people but a death threat is just unimaginable and yet it is a present danger in that community.

It will be unfortunate for those bullies if finally they will met their match in the "real" world.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I will track down the comment and write an article about it as we have a resident on here that is a lawyer in the USA, and the person that issued the threat is in the USA, Houston, Texas.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Yes one of the best ideas ever. These cyber bullies get away with anything they do there, they coerce people, intimidate and much worse it came to such a degree like a death threat and yet people just keep their silence to avoid being the next victim.

There is always a level of uncertainty and fear among users so they just suck dicks and be a "yes" man and fuel the Egos of these basically a cyber-bullies to a point that they treat another human being a thing that could just be physically killed sometimes.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

Honestly, they can suck my dick if they have no teeth, they left a trail a mile long, on their own blockchains, in no way do I want to abuse you or make you feel bad, but they deserve it.

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I think they are starting to totally lose it, and at some point all their criminal activities on the blockchain will be exposed. They are pulling off some big scams right now, and power crazed ego tripping is their biggest weakness.. So it's a good thing in some ways

  ·  3 years ago  ·  

I have pulled a lot of code from the site, worry not, it is all in hand, I fucking hate bullies, and will not tolerate them, till the day I die grrrrr