Hello Admin Wakeup Please (eco)

in blurt-176888 •  last month 

Hello, Blurt Family,

I am a Blurt witness from Pakistan, and I am once again reaching out to highlight an issue that I brought up a couple of weeks ago. Unfortunately, it seems no one has taken action, so I'm compelled to bring it to everyone’s attention again.

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Issue Overview

The screenshot below shows the same accounts that I previously banned from the Blurt Pakistan community. These users were receiving large, suspicious upvotes. After investigation, I muted six accounts due to fraudulent activity.



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Muted Accounts

Below is the list of accounts I muted, which have since shifted to a new community to avoid moderation:


These accounts I muted. so they all are moved into the eco-community.

SrAccount NameActionReason
1@summaiyarashidmutedFAKE
2@samantharacmutedFAKE
3@kingcocmutedFAKE
4@janita2024mutedFAKE
5@elizibethmutedFAKE
6@thurayyamutedFAKE

The Connection to Ecosynthesizer

I have observed that these accounts appear to be linked to the user Fabiha, who manages the Ecosynthesizer account. She is supporting her fake accounts by upvoting them through the eco account. Previously, she posted from her main account, @blurt-pakistan / @fabiha, but has stopped posting there. All of these accounts moved to the Eco community at the same time after I muted them.

WHY

Finally, I saw these all accounts belong to Fabiha She is the curator of the Ecosynthesizer account. She is continuously supporting her fake accounts
Vote from the eco account. I saw She was posting with her account @blurt-pakistan. now she has stopped posting with these accounts. All these accounts moved into the Eco community after I muted them. Here is the post Link https://blurt.blog/blurt-176888/@nabeeel/5khdfn-stop-copy-paste

When I muted them so MOD of my community Miss Fabiha un-ban the @samantharac account without my permission.
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Why these accounts are getting only 3, or 4 account votes daily.

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These are the 3 or 4 votes, Do You think it's organic?

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Why This Matters

This behavior undermines the integrity of our community and devalues genuine content creators' efforts. I'm calling on all community and platform moderators to take this matter seriously. why the ecosythesizer community Admin is not taking any action > WHY

Thank you for your attention.

@offgridlife @saboin @eastmael @megadrive @nalexadre @outofthematrix @fizz.vai

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  ·  last month  ·  

ok guys where is the second bottom of this dispute and who really wants what?

If @nabeeel is right it means that someone (in this case @symbionts) simply does not understand that you do not have to create a fake account on blurt to earn on your own rate. It is understandable that if someone maintains a service like @ecosynthetizer they expect support and even @megadrive once mentioned to look for such support like I did in the case of @khrom-proposals.

DAO was blocked so maybe it is about some frustration?

On the other hand, people have different motivations under the guise of creating different structures. The question is what?

In turn, the question is how sure @nabeeel are you that your accusations are justified and how much are they some kind of prejudice?

really, in my opinion, situations like this are completely unnecessary here on blurt. We don't have hive wathers here, nor any downvote cabals, and on their FEs everyone can block whoever they want at their discretion.

To avoid abuse, instead of creating a banning and settlement supervision infrastructure, we should think about how to introduce motivational tools that are resistant to abuse and at the same time give the feeling that scheming simply doesn't pay off, so it won't be worth it for anyone to waste their time and nerves on it.

fcc:

@fabiha

  ·  last month  ·  

Hello @khrom

To clarify, I am indeed the curator of the Ecosynthesizer account, and I fully acknowledge this role. It’s important to highlight that this mad person initially accused certain accounts of being fake. For you if you are on discord I encourage you to revisit the blurt discord channel Report abuse or appeal.

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Initially, his conflict was with @janita2024, who effectively defended herself and resolved the matter, causing him to fall silent for a while. Later, he approached me with claims that, as Pakistanis, we should support each other. Before making these allegations, he should have thought more carefully. When he asked me to support the accounts of blurt-step and afzal-qamar in my community, I firmly declined, which seemed to trigger his sudden wave of accusations that all these accounts belong to me.

I proposed a straightforward solution: verifying these accounts through angelica for transparency. BTW, I am currently inactive on Blurt except for curating posts. And Good thing is I am in blurt booster whitelist It means I can get upvotes from blurt booster. But still i am no longer be active on Blurt.

It’s time for all of you to focus on genuine engagement rather than baseless accusations. Let's move forward with fairness and trust at the forefront.

Best regards,
CC: @khrom

  ·  29 days ago  ·  

well it seems to me that @nabeel's goal is simply to ensure that the pool on the blurt platform is not drained too much and like every person who deals with pursuing violations is cut for everyone who does it in some way. It would be worth considering whether this support could not simply look more official so that it would be clear who is upvoting whom and for what.

the main problem of social media platforms like blurt is that in reality someone buys all these blurts for real money and no one simply wants to buy something that has empty value behind it. that is why such scandals will unfortunately happen.

I am constantly working on developing structures that are supposed to increase engagement and give usefulness to blurt tokens and also on appreciating the most valuable content without the need for penalties but through engagement and supporting solutions based on positive reinforcement. Unfortunately, it takes time... a lot of time...

  ·  29 days ago  ·  

Why fabiha protecting and commenting for them.no blocked user comment yet

  ·  29 days ago  ·  

Hmm maybe they have some kind of arrangement or in this way they want to support this user for some reason?

Over the years on hive and steem I have learned one thing... it honestly doesn't matter much whether a user creates fake accounts or creates farms. More nerves and energy are spent on combating such abuses and this only creates a lot of acid on the platform which translates into an outflow of users to more neutral places or places with a more sophisticated version of combating abuses. sophisticated, i.e. one that does not echo publicly. We are talking about a few dollars here and calculate the time you spend fighting these abuses in money... this is work worth hundreds of dollars. And another question is where does the money in social media come from? Well, it comes from the fact that there are reach, so from the fact that there are many users. Abbusers or not but still some people who might want to spend those blurts on something like blurt games or other products... For me, the priority is to attract as many users as possible and create solutions that will disproportionately support those authors who create something really valuable than those who cheat...

You know, it's like with FB because there are so many millions of users there, posts by scammers, swindlers or plagiarisms and so they get lost in the thicket of content and those who earn money are either promoted for the big money that the platform gets or those who present something that people really like.

In this respect, we should look at it the same way.

Ultimately, a certain amount of blurt is produced per block and the goal of scammers is simply to sell them, which means that people who are really interested can buy them cheaper. In the end, all of these blurts will end up on the market anyway... Btw scammers usually just burn most of prizes by their activity just like this bot what @mariuszkarowski linked here in comment.

So ithink that, our task should be to ensure the depth of the market so that it is always capacious enough that sales do not cause significant declines, i.e. attract investors and create solutions that will make real users, not scammers, see the point in buying blurts.

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  ·  29 days ago  ·  

It seems you solved your issue already. Muting. What more can be done? This is all under a suspicion of foul play. As far as I am concerned or ethical standards, being under suspicion is not abuse.

Need something more concrete than what is shown here.

If the front end is yours you can mark any user you like that you suspect as suspicious for all to see and link your reasons for each one.

And maybe people will just not vote for it.

These are the 3 or 4 votes, Do You think it's organic?

And if it's automatic?

When I muted them so MOD of my community Miss Fabiha un-ban the @samantharac account without my permission.

If it's a community account and you gave them access to it, technically you gave them permission unless you have some sort of agreement that is not being made clear between the two of you, that may need to be addressed. Are you the only one allowed to ban and unban?

  ·  last month  ·   (edited)

If it happened more than once, 3 times even, that's a pattern for all those who have abused, and more than likely it is habitual and they will do it again cyclically.

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@ecosynthesizer @symbionts I understand that you don't want to vote on posts other than your own. That is fine, but the fact that you additionally want to get votes from the community using a fake accounts is not fine. It is not ethical.

Of course, you have the right to take profits from reward pool for having Blurt Power.

I suggest you to run a bot like this one https://blurt.blog/blurtchina/@pingyuan/20241101t112335z

  ·  last month  ·  

@mariuszkarowski, this person is actually doing everything in jealousy, He first tried to do his best to remove blurt booster vote of @janita2024 Acc. It does not work because @janita2024 shows she is not fake and fully fight with him on discord and he loose, then he is telling all accounts is her Account, When problem is solved because no one can trust he don't have any proof So, He tell me in whatsapp that we are pakisani and we support each other. I denied him because already he tried to harm my many friends reputation who are working hard. he told me vote afzal qamar sir and blurt step. I denied so he is coming again once again.

BTW simple way to get vote from @ecosynthesizer Account is anyone simply post in ecoer community. I am a curator so I must support.

If everyone is thinking that these accounts are fake, I simply have one solution which is to verified account, But our mostly pakistani religious women don't want to share picture so, best way is to they will verified through Angelica.

I hope you are not here to fight with me and you also understand my POV.

No, I'm not here to fight. I just noticed that @ecosynthesizer @symbionts has its own community and also votes on posts by users who are not on @nabeeel's list. That makes a lot of difference. I like this.
https://blurt.intinte.org/created/blurt-1787181

If copy/paste posts or suspicious accounts appear in the community as nabeeel suggests then curators and community administrators can mute such accounts and stop voting on their posts.

It's none of my business, but maybe it's worth taking a closer look at some of these accounts to make sure everything is OK ?

  ·  last month  ·  

Hello @mariuszkarowski ,

I understand your concern and appreciate that you are focusing on the integrity of the community. As only a curator my aim has always been to support quality content not to promote any farming.

If any suspicious activity or copy/paste posts are noticed, then the correct approach is that curators and community admins mute such accounts and stop voting on their posts. This is a fair and transparent way to handle abuse.

It's none of my business, but maybe it's worth taking a closer look at some of these accounts to make sure everything is OK ?

Obviously, It is a good thing, Actually mariuszkarowski I already told everyone anyone is free to do anything if anything is suspicious, I personally talk to blurt team to verified these users.

Thank you for your concern, it really means a lot for me.

Best regards.

  ·  last month  ·  

Let see

Yes, but remember that on Blurt no one can force anyone to do anything

  ·  last month  ·   (edited)

Why is she supporting them? i realy dont know
https://blocks.blurtwallet.com/#/@blurt-1787181

  ·  last month  ·  

BTW simple way to get vote from @ecosynthesizer Account is anyone simply post in ecoer community. I am a curator so I must support.

Really ?

  ·  last month  ·  

Admin know everything about her but still giving him full favour for Curating her all accounts
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@fabiha its you

  ·  last month  ·   (edited)

Yes, it's me or @megadrive also know this,

also @zahidsun knows about this.

It is actually a shame for you. thank God I cannot hide anything from blurt team. But you are a witness so I must hide for you , Actually not just because of witness it is just because you are a pakisani witness and i guess actually your parents must shame on you. i already give you sincere advice but actually you are thinking that you take votes for me, I never give you any vote. You can directly talk to anyone, Now no one can change my mind.

You are just thinking that i have this blurt-pak acc so all accounts are mine. I really don't need to now proof you anything you are just wasting your time and my time. You don't have anything to say so you are just label me a scammer in your community. Actually You are free to do anything,

Bye Bye and please Go to Hell as soon as possible.

  ·  last month  ·  

What about on steem ? you have ECO support there in your seprate community with 10% commsion

  ·  last month  ·   (edited)

I find it unfair that just because they have large amounts of BP they have to make these kinds of bad moves, it seems quite similar to "nepotism", I've noticed several accounts have the same pattern, but it seems that those in charge of moderating and managing, being observers or guardians, and even witnesses when they supervise each transaction of the blockchain are not interested in correcting the problem, instead they keep making it bigger because they are benefiting, so why act fair if they are winning in an unclear way? Typical where money is handled, then Blurt is no exception.

  ·  last month  ·  

Hello @hilaricita,

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I completely understand where you're coming from, and I want to acknowledge the frustration that comes with seeing power being misused in any community. However, I want to clarify that my actions and intentions as a curator have always been aligned with promoting fairness and transparency within the Ecoer community.

The accounts in question have been reviewed and supported based on their genuine activity and contributions, not due to any form of favoritism or unethical practices. I agree that nepotism and manipulation of the reward pool should not be tolerated, but it is equally important to ensure that accusations are backed by solid evidence before concluding that someone is acting unfairly.

To address your concerns about oversight and moderation, I am committed to working with other trusted community members and moderators, such as @angelica7, to verify accounts and uphold the integrity of our platform. This way, we can collectively make sure that the system benefits genuine content creators without misrepresentation or exploitation.

Your feedback is invaluable, and I appreciate your commitment to maintaining a fair community. If there are specific instances or patterns you'd like me to look into further, please feel free to share, and I’ll be happy to discuss them.

Best regards,
Fabiha

  ·  last month  ·   (edited)

Hello Fabiha, thank you for answering my comment. I think that all those who manage curation accounts, administrators and moderators of the community should reach an agreement, have meetings not only within the same community, but with others without this being the same as taking away autonomy, I do not think that it is the most appropriate and fair to have accusations from one side and the other for not communicating, the best thing is to work in harmony. My mother always says that in a trial both parties should be heard, so now that you have stated your position some things are clear to me and I understand you, continue with your work as you have done because I know that moderating groups is not an easy task, there are always criticisms, envy, things that are not necessary and that do not promote good coexistence in Blurt. I advise you to analyze suspicious activities according to your criteria and then take corrective measures. I know that everyone wants to earn rewards, but being clear from the beginning is the best and healthiest.

I read another post of yours (https://blurt.blog/blurt-1787181/@fabiha/4bbily-clarifying-the-accusations-and-seeking-a-fair-resolution-my-response-to-nabeeel's-accusations) and let me tell you that on Blurt or anywhere else, no one should force anyone to post their own photos or insist on not doing so, and this action should not weigh in on the post's vote. Also, Blurt is not an exchange where they ask for KYC out of obligation.

I encourage you to continue with your work, @fabiha, I will take a look at the community you moderate to read the content that I find interesting.

Greetings.

  ·  last month  ·  

We cannot in any way support the farming practices of this account owner. Our team members and set to check it thoroughly and take appropriate action on these accounts. I cannot in any way support the way the reward pool is being undermined.

  ·  last month  ·  

Hello @fizz.vai,

I understand and share your concern about protecting the integrity of the reward pool. The Ecosynthesizer account’s goal is to support genuine, quality content, not farming practices. I’m committed to transparency and would gladly work with @angelica7 for private account verification to address any doubts while respecting privacy.

Thank you for your input, and I’m open to any steps that strengthen trust and fairness in our community.

Best regards,
Fabiha

  ·  last month  ·  

If you do a good job, it definitely deserves praise. One request to you please don't support those who are involved in this type of farming in any way, I don't know how true is the allegation made about you. But I would like to say one thing that if this allegation is true then it is a bit sad.

  ·  last month  ·  

@fizz.vai, I completely understand and share your concerns. It saddens me as well to see these allegations circulating. I’d like to clarify a few points:

First, I am a student with significant time constraints, which makes managing multiple accounts and engaging in such practices highly unlikely. I invite you to visit my Steemit profile to see my consistent track record, which speaks to my integrity and genuine involvement.

As you mentioned, good work deserves recognition, and I firmly believe that honesty and hard work ultimately prevail. If these allegations from this person were true, I would be facing the consequences in both my online and personal circles. On the contrary, I am fortunate to have a supportive community that values my contributions. This is why I am not deeply affected by unfounded claims.

Regarding your advice not to support those involved in farming, I fully agree. To strengthen the community and ensure the highest standards, I am open to collaborating with moderators who can help verify posts and uphold the community’s quality. If you or someone you trust would like to assist as a moderator, I would be more than willing to coordinate and focus solely on curation.

Thank you for your feedback and commitment to fairness. Your support in these efforts would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,
Fabiha

  ·  last month  ·  

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Congratulations, your post has been upvoted by @dsc-r2cornell, which is the curating account for @R2cornell's Discord Community.

Curated by abiga554

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Enhorabuena, su "post" ha sido "up-voted" por @dsc-r2cornell, que es la "cuenta curating" de la Comunidad de la Discordia de @R2cornell.

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  ·  last month  ·  

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