ATTENTION ALL WITNESSES
It's time to vote on the tasks to be performed in HardFork 9. Responses have been slow so far, so please DO NOT RISK LOSING SUPPORT FOR YOUR WITNESS!!
To vote, please join the decentralised, encrypted, private Blurt Devs room on Matrix, then click on the pinned item to take you to the first of 5 items that need your vote.
Join the private Devs/Witnesses chatroom here:
https://matrix.to/#/#blurt-devs-private:matrix.org
If you do not yet have a matrix username, you must register one, then contact @agorise:matrix.org to Invite you into the private room.
We cannot begin work on HF9 until you VOTE.
Please and thank you 🤠🙏
Pinging Witnesses: @saboin @khrom @fervi @marendan @sagarkothari88 @matthew1 @nalexadre @kentzz001 @outofthematrix @double-u @apokruphos @eastmael @actifit @cosmicboy123 @contrabourdon @freakeao @world-travel-pro @nabeeel @tekraze
These are the items to be addressed in HardFork-9.
WITNESSES (mentioned above), please let us know your vote on each of these 5 items:
What should be done with the Bittrex (a dead, liquidated company) funds (~21 Million BLURT)? NOTE: Those old keys could be used in the future as an economic, governance or social attack vector.
A: Burn them all, so as to remove any future allegations of a greedy community stealing the funds. Total supply (~565 Million BLURT) will be reduced ~3.7%.
B: Freeze the funds and burn them evenly over the course of 6 months so rewards reduction is nearly imperceptible.
C: Send the funds to the DAO account for use by Proposals. NOTE: Some may perceive this as a community theft.
D: Send the funds to the rewards pool. NOTE: Some may perceive this as a community theft.
What should be done with the old remaining ~1.1 Million BLURT in the DAO account?
A. Leave it alone for funding future projects until it runs out.
B. Burn it completely.
C: Send the funds to the rewards pool.
Should the Inflation rate (Blurt is ~7.89%, Steem is ~6.07%) be changed, and if so, to what value? NOTE: If we burn the Bittrex funds AND reduce the inflation rate, post rewards (Witness, Social, DAO) will get smaller. Rewards are a function of the inflation rate and total supply. Blurt’s inflation rate was reset to 10% at the genesis block and has been decreasing in a linear fashion ever since.
A: No, leave it alone
B: Yes, lower it to match the rate that Steem uses, even though the 2 chains are at different lifecycles
C: Yes, set it to a different value altogether (to be discussed in the comments)
Should the DAO funding inflation be redirected? NOTE: Users (and front-end Devs) can also voluntarily allocate a % of their reward to specific Devs, Witnesses and other users.
A: Yes. Fix the DAO Proposals system, and redirect the DAO daily budget of ~11K BLURT to the Witness reward pool instead. Devs can run a Witness node to secure the chain AND get their projects funded at the same time. No more wasteful DAO Proposals (as seen on other Graphene chains).
B. No. Fix the DAO Proposals system and let the DAO daily budget of ~11K BLURT fund all projects via inflation.
Adjust or flatten out the rewards curve? NOTE: Whales currently get a much bigger return for their BLURT POWER (BP) than the smaller fish.
A: Flatten the curve (essentially remove it). If the vote from someone that has 1M BP is worth 35 BLURT, then the value of the vote from someone with only 100K BP should be 3.5 BLURT. It should not make any difference whether a post has earned 10 BLURT or 1000 BLURT. Existing code functionality will remain, which allows for future curve adjustments if needed.
B: Adjust the curve; Reduce the top-heavy advantage, but implement a mild curve at the bottom end of the range to reduce spam.
C: No, leave it alone.
edit: i edited the word "curator" to "rewards"
The reason that I vote for a straight burn rather than a gradual one is to avoid potential bugs.
At the start of the Blurt blockchain, we had a regent account. It's an account that started with a virtual stake equal to half of the initial total supply, and its virtual stake was to decay slowly over two years. On July 4, 2022, when the virtual stake of the regent account was supposed to hit 0, the chain halted because of a bug in the code. Someone had delegated a small amount of BP to the regent account (I don't know why), and this was not anticipated, so it caused a bug that made the chain halt. @baabeetaa coded a fix for it, which we rolled out within a couple of days, but we were still down for about two days when it happened.
I am for keeping the codebase as simple as possible, and only as complex as necessary. Any added complexity has the potential to introduce bugs.
So true, and good point. Edge cases happen and even the best Devs in the world cannot think of everything.
I agree with you on this point and will change my vote from decay, to total burn. Thank you Saboin!
While logged into Beblurt,com. I'm unable to vote, as when I click post I get an "unknown user" error message.
I'll make my vote official here.
1A, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
Must have been a bug or an error on the website I guess
That makes the most sense to me.
We voted for: 1B, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
For the record I vote the same as you.
Each decision is a good one and an upgrade to the blockchain.
Glad I hung in there for you to arrive. Things were going nowhere fast for quite some time.
Thank you for applying your skills to Blurt, and taking the time and effort to do so.
I'm sure it will pay off big in the long run.
I sent you a message on matrix. I'm new to that platform, so hopefully I have no issues.
I've seen the attacks you got on Hive, absolutely disgusting. I am so glad you are here and stuck around! There's so much more that we want to build onto this chain, blurt.media and our witness node were just the first. I usually put most of my ideas in the main blurt chatroom on matrix, so thank you so much for joining in there as well, everyone's feedback and discussions in there are vitally important. Hope we can chat more! :) -ken
We really need more people like him on the blurt platform who can contribute to the growth of the platform with their skills.
[1.] I am seriously concerned about this point.
If we burn the 21 million Blurt, and at some point in the future a person who has the keys or, for example, the insolvency administrator of Bittrex makes a claim, then we have a problem.
I suggest that we freeze the 21 million blurt permanently in a way that we can pay if the Blurt is claimed in the future.
[2.B]
[3.A]
[4.A]
[5.B]
My votes are
1A,
2B,
3A,
4A,
5B
[1A] - [2B] - [3B] - [4A] - [5B]
My response:
1 A, 2 B, 3 A, 4 A, 5 A
Hope the other witnesses share their opinion too!
Hi, my votes are:
A
B
B
A
A
Well I missed my votes, but here now
1A, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
1A, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
Your avatar image looks so angry, will you make it happy for us? :)
If you need the new Blurt logo, you can find it here:
https://gitlab.com/blurt/branding/-/tree/master/resources/logos?ref_type=heads
I submit my votes are:
@agorise, you might want to edit point #5. It's the rewards curve that we want to change, and not the curation curve (unless there is something that I misunderstood).
Yep, that's true, I had just copied some of the items/tasks that were sent to me so that I could create this Poll thingy for the Witnesses. I think they understand though. I'll try to edit that for easier clarification.
1B 2A 3A 4A 5A
The last answer could be questionable.. basically one of the mechanisms that stops spamming are fees. However I also have another idea how to make it unprofitable, spamming in general also seems to me that A
Answer 2 correlates directly with answer 4 A. if we still leave dao for funding by the community, then there should also be some funds at the beginning. Basically there also another idea to make DAO just a project Notice board. Something like an Advert for showing the community your proposals just FYC. Thanks to this, everyone can easily check what ideas different people from the community have, quickly get to know what they offer and join in supporting them on the terms that the author of the idea came up with
My response is as follows:
1A, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
Thanks!
a question at the wrong time, only Bittrex is in this condition? there are no other exchanges
Hmm, yeah good question. Probit and Hive-Engine are the current ones.
There are a few old unused (afaik) exchange accounts though:
Maybe @mariuszkarwoski or @megadrive knows? If we are burning a couple of old, provably defunct exchange accounts, then we may as well look at those others too and decide now.
Blurt cannot just burn funds though of a company that still has a beneficiary.
"Blurt cannot just burn funds though of a company that still has a beneficiary."
Exactly! That worries me a lot too.
Exactly, and I am confident that the Blurt Witnesses would never vote to do something like that. Ever.
But that also applies to Bittrex, I think.
"[1.] I am seriously concerned about this point.
If we burn the 21 million Blurt, and at some point in the future a person who has the keys or, for example, the insolvency administrator of Bittrex makes a claim, then we have a problem.
I suggest that we freeze the 21 million blurt permanently in a way that we can pay if the Blurt is claimed in the future."
That would make the most sense to me as well. That way, the potential attack vector is taken care of, and we don't end up mistakenly burning tokens that belong to someone who wants to claim them.
These tokens never made it to the wallets of individual owners. Bitrex never honored BLURT airdrop. You can't claim tokens you never owned. In my opinion, it is safe to burn them.
Theoretically yes, but weren't the Blurt transferred to the account via Airdrop? So that they list Blurt with them? Can't it be determined how much went to them via airdrop? Then we can only burn the airdrop value and the rest, which may belong to an ex-customer, remains? Because I don't want to see what happens to the Blurt share price when an ex-CEO of Bittrex realizes that there is still something he can sell to enrich himself after the insolvency.
Thank you!
I'm very happy that you see it that way too!
These are not company funds. It's an airdrop. No one paid a single cent for these tokens. This is a joint business proposal. If the company rejects the business proposal and does not want to list BLURT tokens on the exchange, we have the right to withdraw our proposal and burn these tokens. Before we burn, we could repeat BLURT listing request.
I hope @megadrive has evidence in the form of negative responses from these exchanges
My votes are: 1A, 2B, 3A, 4A, 5B
I will ping the rest of the witnesses here and some other people that should be involved.
@zahidsun, @blurtconnect-ng, @cre.ative, @techcoderx, @megadrive, @tomoyan, @joviansummer, @gamer0815, @blurtlatam, @alloyxuast, @forkyishere, @casualfriday, @dududu1314, @nekolive, @rycharde
I invite you all to read the above post, join the Matrix channel, and cast your vote and voice your opinions on the proposed hard fork items.
Hi, by the way: Notifications do not work on blurt.blog
They work from here. Maybe switching to a different RPC node in the settings will fix the problem.
Thanks!
Cool, I have not heard about this fork before. Once the witnesses are up to date, will they bring it to the rest of the community for discussion? Wow, this is #9? I guess we've been through a few of these.
And, to fit in with the spam comments left previously, I feel the need to say... "I think all witnesses should work together to see good things in Blurt and support the community." Now I'm one of the cool kids : )
I am also hearing about it for the first time. Quite interesting to have read and know some few things about it
Yes, we will post about this again to keep everyone informed of our progress.
I think all the witnesses should come together.
Me too, and personally I think we should be able to contact all of them at a moments notice. So for example if I ping a Witness, and we also run a Witness node, then I should be able to get a reply from that witness in less than 24 hours MAX.
I already sent you a message.
I think all users need to work together to improve Blurt, especially those who have witnesses. If everyone works together, we will see something good in Blurt, thank you.
Absolutely 💪
I think all users should work together to improve the site, especially those who have testimonials. If we all work together, we can all see good things in Blart, we will all try to move forward and provide good things for all users.
Yes indeed 💪
I strongly believe if all the witness can come together it will.go a long way for the platform
I really like all your ideas. But it would be even better if you could bring a reputation system with these.
I will never propose or support a reputation system. Basically, I will fight it until the last minute.
This is one of the most corrupt things on hive and is directly related to downvoting and indirectly to the so-called Social credit system which is an oppressive tool for controlling population and combating freedom of speech.
Everyone makes their own reputation about individuals and there is no such thing as an objective reputation.
When in ordinary situations such a system may seem useful because there are basically no important topics to censor and people behave relatively rationally. In situations such as during a pandemic, the vast majority of society manipulated by the media hates people who tell the truth because they themselves are manipulated and it is in such situations that the reputation system shows its true face when the manipulated crowd in a fit of panic and hysteria caused by the media, by itself allows itself to stigmatize people who think differently precisely through systems such as reputation systems or shadowban and silencing tools, creating a self-censoring system that is unable to defend itself against media manipulation because it silences the voices of reason by itself.
The introduction of such functionalities is a denial of one of the basic functions that, in my opinion, blurt fulfills, i.e. the function of a free and unrestrained medium for transmitting information whatever it may be, so that everyone can find out the opinion of everyone else if they want to, without making it difficult for some groups to reach the rest with their views.
And it is precisely for crisis situations in which the truth is fought by the mainstream with all severity that it is most important for social discussion to be as unrestrained as possible.
We got rid of the reputation system in one of the early hard forks. It was either in HF 1 or HF 2 if I'm not mistaken.
We will never suggest adding a reputation system to Blurt. You don't have to worry about that. I think most witnesses (if not all) on Blurt will agree on this point.
yes I know and that makes me very happy. I'm just replying @rex-kibreay to point that out :)
I will also say I will not agree with the reputation system. I think it is pretty nice right now with everyone not having a reputation attached to their username
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Thank you :)
I don't ever want to see a Hive-style reputation scoring system again though. It brings a lot of butt-kissing imo, and removes a persons real opinion about a post or comment.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Thank you for allowing me to disagree and share my opinion ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Fiddle too with the user's rewards back to getting 75% of post rewards, after all it was the idea of Hive Oligarchs.
Fuck Hive, I came here because I would like to see a socialfi chain with no oligarchs, oligarchs that are losing control and/or the impossibility of oligarchs being able to even form on the chain. To that, if you have ideas to move Blurt even closer to that goal, I am all ears seriously.
Blurt is the closest thing I have found, but if there are ways of decentralising it even more, then that is the direction I'd like us to move in.
Well let's see whether it will be a good decision actually