We're integrating Blurt with Peerhub

in blurt-101010 •  7 days ago 

Peerhub (peerhub.app) is a blockchain-agnostic, network aggregation and syndication plugin for Peertube servers. There are hundreds of these streaming sites around the world and many of them are installing our Peerhub plugin.

Originally, Peerhub was branded as "Hive-Tube", but for obvious reasons we no longer wanted a brand based on one chain, especially a chain that has slung so much hate towards those of us with different views on science, politics, etc.

Peerhub-powered streaming sites like vigilante.tv bring people together from many different networks garnering Millions of views. By setting the comment section on fire, it results in more sharing of the video or podcast, which results in more income for the Creator and the users in the comment section.

With these posts, we intend to keep you informed on our progress.

The Blurt integration with Peerhub has been broken up into 2 Phases. This first Phase is due for completion and release by first week of November.

Green items are completed, yellow items are in progress:

Please upvote our Witness to help secure the chain: "agorise-witness":

November should be a HUGE month for Blurt. We have another surprise coming for Blurt next month too, so stay tuned! We're in the Blurt chatroom on matrix if you'd like to chat:
#blurt:matrix.org (https://matrix.to/#/#blurt:matrix.org)

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  ·  6 days ago  ·  

I would like to see blurt reward for seeding videos. It could be great as a promotion of p2p videos and also for blurt as reward. Bittorrent web protocol gives possibility to exchange some data it can be transaction id and transfer can be a some kind of pool like DEX.

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Yep, P2P seeding has opened a lot of doors for our Peerhub software. It requires way less resources at the server since the load gets distributed (we are huge fans of distributed tech). P2P also provides a better UX since videos can be streamed to more users and at much higher resolutions.

My thoughts on paying seeders though is a bit different. Right now, 99% of the seeders on all Peerhub-powered streaming sites happily do it for free (less the users who manually choose to disable byte sharing), so sending them Blurt coins for every KB they seed is not needed.

Arguments in favor of paying users $BLURT for every KB of a video stream they seed:

  1. "It will bring more users to Blurt"
  2. "It will bring more users to the Peerhub-powered streaming site"

Arguments against:

  1. Users will milk the rewards pool
    -- Filling blocks with millions of additional transactions to pay thousands of users across hundreds of Peerhub-powered streaming sites is not sustainable and will cause excessive load on node providers
    -- Users will just leave their browser tabs open, taxing the chain
    -- The Creator of the video will earn less since the rewards pool is being drained many times faster
  2. Onboarding more users to Blurt for the wrong reason
    -- Use the rewards pool for people who contribute content of value
    -- Seeding a video does not help the Blurt community, or the Blurt blockchain
  3. Chain bloat
    -- We want to keep the chain as lightweight and sustainable as possible.
  4. Users already get paid on Peerhub-powered sites
    -- An active comment section under a video equates to more people sharing the video, more views of the video, more people (and less trolls) wanting to leave a nice comment on the video, and more earnings for everyone. In my experience, that increases onboarding for all the right reasons.

At least at this point, I have to say no. I do not want to add such a feature when it would financially and physically hurt Blurt, reduce the rewards pool for the content creators, and tax the node operators and site hosts who have to pay for all that increased bandwidth usage (each user's open browser tab(s) equals 1 additional peer(s)).

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

I think economy should be balanced. It should not multiply coins by doing nothing. It can be even a token inside blurt blockchain. Something similar what hive engine is doing.

Of course there is a lot of people who seeds without benefits, but I see similar way like BTT works. If there is enouth free throuput noone pays, if there is one seed and wants money for transfer than you can pay blurts. I'm not new in p2p and with videos is tge same problem like with torrents, old and unpopular often disappears because of limited access. Also you can think about rectangle of interest. Consumer, host, creator and advertiser. PeerTube will be never real YT killer because of missing the last one. People publish on YT to earn money and on PT for fun, so there will be always more content on YT. If you can create this rectangle on PT + Blurt it might be something huge. For sure it's longer discussion but I have a few ideas if you will be interested

Get paid for watching videos is a great marketing slogan

@agorise What you think:
Seeder-bot will leave a comment under each new video with similar content: Get paid for watching. Winners: see beneficiaries of this comment

The first nine people who watched entire video (or uploaded the most KB within the first hour) will receive rewards from the comment (10% each) through the beneficiary system, remaining 10% will go to server owner

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

theta tried this and they ended up making it a closed system so the credits you earn can't be cashed out, only "verified creators" could convert to cash

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

sounds familiar


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  ·  6 days ago  ·  

I think trying to monetize every little thing just to get people to use a product is kinda slimy. It's like we're desperate or something. That's just my personal opinion of course.

Look at twitter for example. People don't earn anything over there to post content, comment, reply, retweet videos and so on. Twitter became popular thru initial marketing and freedom of speech. It grew due to people sharing links to their favorite content. None of those millions of users have earned 1 cent for doing that for twitter.

Over the years, I have focused our products on UX, and making them as discoverable, and accessible to as many people across a multitude of networks as possible (content syndication). That "reach" is what platforms like Youtube will never offer. They want you in their walled garden, and get the people to freely enslave themselves to it.

okay, at the moment there is no point in discussing such ideas, we will see after a year how it all works. If the project does not finance itself then we can return to this or other ideas. The worst idea would be funding from the Blurt DAO, as it would only worsen the already bad financial situation of this blockchain. DAO might be good for those blockchains that don't have a shared reward pool, but reward pool + DAO is way too inflationary

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

I've never said that we should pay for watching or use standard reward pool. Nova days 4K is very popular and 8K might be soon. It means that a lot of data should be on storage even if each person will use 20GB on own drive to upload there will be not much videos. I would like to reward that with ex. additional token on in blurt blockchain. Also you have to use quite a lot of bandwidth to support p2p network. Impossible with ex. mobile devices. So I see that more less the same like old torrent trackers worked. Each person has calculated ratio in/out. If difference is too big you can buy additional transfer on blurt. So some people will be receiving token because of positive ratio, same will need to buy because of negative. Of course it's peertube and it's decentralized so there will be blurt users and outside of our community. So it will be still possble to watch video but probably you will have less seeders. That is more less what I'm proposing. Still we should think what kind of data should go to blockchain and what kind of format. Pools, queries, offers? probably not important now to show the idea.

Also I think contents creators should have % because without them seeders will be not able to earn.

at the moment the most important thing is to start the project

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

i think this would work better if the person who posts the video can donate an adjustable amount of blurt, to be distributed to viewers as incentive

that way it doesn't interfere with the "reward-pool"

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Paying people to watch your video? That's almost as bad imo as asking viewers all the time to “Please Like, Comment, Subscribe, Share, and Click the bell icon”.

If the Creator is posting content of value, he/she will earn more. Paying people to watch you just seems like a cry for help to me.

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

yeah, well, "get paid to watch" was the slogan on theta

and people pay to promote vids all the time

might as well make it transparent

i'd certainly be willing to set a bounty for my own vids

paying viewers makes more sense than paying the platform to promote vids

it's pretty tough to cultivate an audience from scratch

especially if you're not commenting on "the current thing"

or something from "pop-culture"

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Ideas can make the world a better place 100% :)

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

You can find me on Discord when you will be ready ;)

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Thanx :) I can't stand discord though, I prefer to use distributed tech.
Also, it benefits the community as a whole if we hash out our ideas here in public.

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

How bout we first start replacing things Like DISCORD, with BLURT... Id rather be burning Blurt with private or public conversations and use it as the resource to pay for Data...

Elements is a Great way to combine BLURT and IDs to setup P2P comms... others are doing it. 🥓

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

The Matrix federated protocol (ref: Element app) offers many bridges and widgets already. We could make a bridge for Blurt with matrix, activitypub, and quite a few protocols in fact. The tech is already here, we just have to start using it 😊

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

profit motive is not always the best option

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

It depends on scale. It is easy to host small project, but all bigger are using dotations to live ex. Wikipedia. P2P gives a lot of possibilites but I dont think that any one is able to host even a small part of YT. Every day size of YT is increasing but number of users is static. In somepoint in P2P world there is too much data that everthing older than few years dies. Solution is to reward tgat content is alive. I think even as a creator i would like to pay for keeping my video alive.

  ·  6 days ago  ·  
  ·  5 days ago  ·  

Scale IT!
https://webtorrent.io/

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First of all I want to welcome you guys to the Blurt blockchain! 🙏🏽♥️ It is also nice to see a new fellow witness, bringing fresh wind. 🌪️🍀 I also embrace any new development projects here on Blurt, especially if they are coming from a toxic place like Hive. 😉 Looking forward to further news from you guys! 🌞

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Yeah, Hive is not a friendly place to be. Toxic in fact.
Like I always say tho.. "go where you're treated best".
Blurt feels very warm and welcoming to me which is why we have decided to start building here.
Thank you outofthematrix! ❤️❤️❤️

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Sorry to ask for more definitions, but by "build" do you mean you are going to write code? (I'm a simple content-creator - could not even figure out how to set up a witness despite having help from other witnesses!)

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Code, design, code audit, manage servers and multiple networks, help with security audits, help customers and clients in our matrix chat, project manage, pay invoices and all-around business building. Marketing, not so much, that is my #1 weak spot so if you know anyone who can help promote the stuff we release here, it is GREATLY appreciated 😊🙏

better dayz are coming

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

hell yeah! :)
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I have not touched weed since it was legalized, but this is a special occasion, let's roll another one

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Just stay away from that legalized poisonous bunk! Black market forever.

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

agreed... I get my weed from the BLOCK Market too...

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

I don't know of peerhub, but it sounds interesting and look forward to hearing more.
Can you explain what you mean by "to help secure the chain"? Do you mean that voting for you will make the Blurt blockchain better?

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Thanx drutter :)
Secure in the context I used means unstoppable. I've been buying, building and running successful businesses since 1993, so the decisions that I make are geared very much towards sustainability, security and efficiency. We have been running rock-solid blockchain servers (api and delegate/witness both) since 2014. Some of our hosting clients get attacked on a weekly basis, yet noone has been able to take them down. In addition to that, I am vehemently against KYC, so should anyone ever want to dox our crew, get their personal details, or pressure them to do a mutiny style hostile-takeover or something, like from a gov agent or a Blurt competitor, they can just f*ck right off.

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

Cool, I've always been against KYC as well. Well of course there are appropriate cases for it, but it's generally misused.
Well in any case, thank you for making Blurt more unstoppable, we can always use that.

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

Yep, most people just hand over their personal details because they've been conditioned to do so. Even if a site asks me for my email address (let alone phone number, selfie, etc), I consider that kyc as well. These days we have pki so there's no need to ask anyone for their email or other identifying info.

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

I believe this is exactly how to use a Graphene Chain such as BLURT... use it as a web 3 interface to avoid handing over the KYC details (the OLDEST Trick in the Book) but instead use asynchronous cryptography to keep controls where they belong... don't lose your Key and especially don't lose your Key... otherwise we STAY in the 20th century and hand over ALL OF OUR DATA to Information Overlords. 😐

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  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Re🤬eD


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  ·  7 days ago  ·  

thanx again frankbacon!! ❤️❤️❤️

Thanks for the good news, I just voted for "agorise-witness" and look forward to seeing you move up in the list 🖖

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Thank you so much! :)

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Welcome to Blurt :)

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

Muchas gracias team-mexico! ❤️❤️❤️

  ·  7 days ago  ·   (edited)

Awesome. Also shared on X.com

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Thank you! :)

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Also voted your Witness … https://blurtwallet.com/~witnesses

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  ·  7 days ago  ·  

HUGE thank you offgridlife!! 💪😸

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Now let’s get Blurt up to $10 USD.

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

wait not yet! i gotta figure out the best way to buy some first! 😳

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Buy it on Hive-Engine and Probit.

Hive-Engine : https://hive-engine.com/trade/SWAP.BLURT

Probit : https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/BLURT-BTC

I’m slowly selling all my Hive and HBD to buy Blurt.

I have a lot of Hive to sell. But going slowly to keep Blurt price low to buy more ….

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Interesting. I send you x amount of blurt here that I earn on postings and you send me hive over there to account "yayogerardo", yes?

That way it's less fees. And it doesn't effect the market. It's a win win. I think.

I'll let you decide the price for exchange. Just be fair ;)



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  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Offgridlife is full of shit if you haven't already figured that out! He's the creepy clown of Blurt, a vote-buyer who uses many accounts to circle-jerk and farm the reward pool. Almost all his BP is delegated to an upvote bot, rendering his witness vote next to worthless, and it is split between so many witnesses it has no influence at all. 90% of what he says is manipulation to get votes and sympathy so he can continue to drain the platform. He has no integrity and no credibility, time and again proving he can't be trusted. Just a heads up.

No need to denigrate a main contribute to the platform (especially on this highly visible post) who just reposted this to ton of people on X. it's like you prefer to focus on the negative combined with righteous over success.

Furthermore what you say is only; yet solidly half correct. Different strokes for different folks. Nobody is perfect, not you, not offgrid, and especially not myself. Please enjoy your day and stay positive.

  ·  4 days ago  ·  

I hold in High regards, you good fellows who appear to be real people instead of AIs

or zombies 🥓

  ·  5 days ago  ·  

You're right, nobody is perfect, although I don't see the relevance. Of course nobody is perfect. I wasn't saying anyone was. Just speaking my mind, something Blurt is supposedly good for. I don't require your advice.

Your negativity is unbearable. Good luck to you.

  ·  7 days ago  ·  

Thanx for the heads up. I don't know hardly anyone here, but I hope that our positive contributions will help to turn around any negative forces that might exist. ☯️

You are extremely welcome. Thank you, and well done!

Furthermore, I do believe your decision to choose Blurt @ under a penny, will prove to have been an incredibly wise move a year from now.

  ·  6 days ago  ·  

I'm feelin the same, thanx again!