Thanx megadrive it's nice to be here! I feel way more welcome here and there is no feeling at all of any toxicity either like what we got "over there".
So, our Blurt + Peerhub integration is about 70% complete right now so Blurt will be front and center on streaming sites very soon. The jackal thing looks very promising imo. Walrus hasn't been around long enough yet and is still in its infancy, storj has been around since 2014 or so iirc (since my bitshares dev days) and there are others like maidsafe and nibiru.
I'd really like to see Blurt get use of the IBC for inter-chain interop, and jackal just happens to be within that ecosystem too. This will help us with discoverability and onboarding at the same time.
As for arweave, I got into them awhile back too, but ever since Akord decided to leave arweave, I did some more investigation and made my final decision on jackal. Their per TB fee is a bit high, but for users willing to pay the premium for permanent storage, that extra margin can help cover the cost of all of the image hosting we do at Blurt. I'm not a spreadsheets guru, but the napkin math seems to work.
Jackal is L1 now, no more need for secret's chain (alter finally left secret too). I use Leap with all of them.
As a PoC at the very least I'd really like to add jackal (modularized in case they fail a year from now or something and we can easily flip-on a different storage chain) to Peerhub. Storing video and keeping the slave nodes in sync is not as easy as some people think. Minio with docker is no joke. Anyway, jackal imo seems to be the best choice the world has right now and it gets us one step closer to multi-chain interop and hence a growing userbase.
Hey Kencode, thank you for the detailed overview of the options. I understand everything you have said as I was in the Cosmos ecosystem for 3 years, I should still have the Jackal team on a twitter chat, just have to find it.
Approx how much would it cost to store 150 GB on Jackal do you think? That is roughly our S3 bucket size. How do we pay for it, can we pay in a decentralised way? Maybe a top-up address the community can send funds to and can it be prepaid, say for example we only use 150 GB now, but we prepay for 500GB or 1TB?
I think the modular approach regarding the PoC is a good idea, I'm happy for you to co-ordinate with @saboin on it.
That would be really awesome to hook up with Patrick over there. My friend Flynn has been discussing my work with him recently and Patrick did say "happy to work on it with him". So we will probably connect in the coming days over this integration.
Jackal right now iirc is like $15/TB. Like I said in my last message, that is pretty high actually, but we can roll that cost to the user who requests premium storage for the imagery, video, nft, etc.
By adjoining Cosmos/IBC with Blurt, it opens many doors for us, not just new users. Blurt users pay in Blurt, but the backend keeps Jackal happy with the swap to $JKL. I'm pretty sure our chain can fund what we use, rather than having to buy blocks of space.
As for the Blurt+Peerhub+Jackal connection PoC, it would be great to run it on something smaller like that, rather than the entire Blurt chain. I want to beat the hell out of it first.
I pinged you on matrix, would be nice if we could have that room chat I mentioned there. I have so many ideas that will get Blurt noticed, bring nice profits and demand for the coin at the same time.
Ah can I just confirm is that $15 per TB once off for eternal storage? Because say we currently pay $30 per month for the same 150 GB of space it would be cheaper right away to place our image store on Jackal.
Yes that's right Patrick is the name of the guy.
If we can do Blurt/IBC that would open us up to be listed on Osmosis and we would have the edge over all Graphene chains.
I'm now with you on Matrix, will continue discussing there.
No, I am pretty sure it's $15/TB per month. They'll need that cashflow to keep things running, especially in the beginning before $JKL price takes off.
You are spot-on about IBC, that's why I think it should be a top priority for Blurt. It's one of the things I think @Saboin and I should discuss because it would open the door to all of the things that the many blockchains (like Jackal) can offer to Blurt and vice versa. Cosmos ecosystem does have a couple self-proclaimed socialfi chains on it already, but they are nowhere near as time tested and solid as Blurt.
We can quite easily make Blurt stand out as the go-to socialfi in Cosmos.
100% Agreed, oh and if you have any ideas about incorporating AI into Blurt I would be interested.
I know instagram has AI to assist you with dm responses, me could have that for comments maybe, perhaps AI post creation assist or even AI content search and suggestions.
I'm a yes on FOSS ai-assist for Blurt. The chain is "dumb" and will store whatever someone throws at it. I'm a fan of Ollama ai models, but for detecting NSFW posts, I would definitely like to implement one or more of those other libs too that I mentioned in the OP, so that human intervention/moderation is needed less and less.
This way, our chain (and jackal) includes content flags (as attached ops). The flags are applied of course after the user posts the content (which we have no auth to stop). Some minimal custom_json op should do the trick. Front-end devs can watch for specific flags of their choice.
If the ai or lib does any questionable/false positives/negatives, the content could be upvoted from other front-ends (by user accounts that meet minimum criteria) which can then insert a mod op so the flag is downgraded or removed. This part needs more discussion of course.
Imagine a private investigator or lawyer needs to permanently store encrypted evidence, or the plans for building an earth aether energy plant, or meeting minutes, etc.
We don't have to decide on just one FOSS ai model or lib either, we can have onion layers of filters that text, an image, video or other blob run thru before getting marked or flagged, by default. Front-end webhosts can run the filter on their system, or not, their choice.
As for ai assisted post creation, @unklebonehead knows of tons of great libs for that stuff, I consult him regularly for his advice on various libs and packages out there that we can use for various tasks, privacy and automation.